Comments on: Thanks to Wi-Fi Smartphones, Mobile VoIP is Growing Steadily http://gigaom.com/2008/08/26/thanks-to-smartphones-mobile-voip-growing-steadily/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:26:30 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: The World Is Flat — and Mobile http://gigaom.com/2008/08/26/thanks-to-smartphones-mobile-voip-growing-steadily/#comment-918035 The World Is Flat — and Mobile Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:57:54 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=18817#comment-918035 <p>[...] has been followed by programs offering cheap international minutes using various VoIP services,  Wi-Fi to make calls and other options. These also contribute to more international calls on mobiles. This means the [...]</p> [...] has been followed by programs offering cheap international minutes using various VoIP services,  Wi-Fi to make calls and other options. These also contribute to more international calls on mobiles. This means the [...]

]]> By: Benefits of Mobile VoIP | VOIP Tips and Tricks http://gigaom.com/2008/08/26/thanks-to-smartphones-mobile-voip-growing-steadily/#comment-911477 Benefits of Mobile VoIP | VOIP Tips and Tricks Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:28:55 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=18817#comment-911477 <p>[...] Thanks to WiFi Smartphones, Mobile VoIP is Growing Steadily [...]</p> [...] Thanks to WiFi Smartphones, Mobile VoIP is Growing Steadily [...]

]]> By: Nokia isn’t ditching VoIP after all! — Alec Saunders SquawkBox http://gigaom.com/2008/08/26/thanks-to-smartphones-mobile-voip-growing-steadily/#comment-896281 Nokia isn’t ditching VoIP after all! — Alec Saunders SquawkBox Fri, 29 Aug 2008 01:17:03 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=18817#comment-896281 <p>[...] Thanks to WiFi Smartphones, Mobile VoIP is Growing Steadily [...]</p> [...] Thanks to WiFi Smartphones, Mobile VoIP is Growing Steadily [...]

]]> By: Markus Goebel's Tech News Comments http://gigaom.com/2008/08/26/thanks-to-smartphones-mobile-voip-growing-steadily/#comment-896127 Markus Goebel's Tech News Comments Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:57:53 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=18817#comment-896127 <p><strong>Om Malik is right...</strong></p> <p>It's not as easy as Nokia is trying to say: There are hundreds or thousands of companies without an own software for mobile VoIP. They just rely on the SIP standard. In Germany it's GMX, 1&1, Sipgate and the several Betamax daughters. Together they h...</p> Om Malik is right…

It’s not as easy as Nokia is trying to say: There are hundreds or thousands of companies without an own software for mobile VoIP. They just rely on the SIP standard. In Germany it’s GMX, 1&1, Sipgate and the several Betamax daughters. Together they h…

]]> By: johnb http://gigaom.com/2008/08/26/thanks-to-smartphones-mobile-voip-growing-steadily/#comment-895983 johnb Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:33:30 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=18817#comment-895983 <p>Om - calls over WiFi work great if you are near a reliable hotspot - at home or in the office. To make truly <em>mobile</em> international calls from anywhere you have to use some other services - there is a number of iPhone apps that do that.</p> <p>My current favorite is Voxofon.com web app for iPhone.</p> <p>The international calls go through local access numbers, so you have full operator's coverage (you do use your plan minutes though). The intl part of the call has really VoIP prices (from 1.3 c/min). Although it is a web app UI works smoothly and does not feel like a web page. Absolutely worth checking out.</p> Om – calls over WiFi work great if you are near a reliable hotspot – at home or in the office. To make truly mobile international calls from anywhere you have to use some other services – there is a number of iPhone apps that do that.

My current favorite is Voxofon.com web app for iPhone.

The international calls go through local access numbers, so you have full operator’s coverage (you do use your plan minutes though). The intl part of the call has really VoIP prices (from 1.3 c/min). Although it is a web app UI works smoothly and does not feel like a web page. Absolutely worth checking out.

]]> By: Brian http://gigaom.com/2008/08/26/thanks-to-smartphones-mobile-voip-growing-steadily/#comment-895974 Brian Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:46:12 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=18817#comment-895974 <p>OM, I have used VoIP on my WinMo smartphone for years (skype) but it has been haphazard use and mostly limited to international calls, once every 6 months - maybe I need to get out more often :-). The problem with mass adoption of VoIP, is there is no clear and compelling value prop to the average mobile user, my grandmother for instance.</p> <p>She just wants to pick up her wireless phone, tap the digits and make a call and doesn't want to be bothered with the skype client, skype out balances, EVDOrA/wifi connection, etc...</p> <p>In the carrier model (my job), the economic benefits are unclear, especially when a voice network is existing and generating revenue. Balance that with minute plans, free mobile to mobile, the case becomes even murkier. International calls seem to be the only use. Wait and see....</p> OM, I have used VoIP on my WinMo smartphone for years (skype) but it has been haphazard use and mostly limited to international calls, once every 6 months – maybe I need to get out more often :-). The problem with mass adoption of VoIP, is there is no clear and compelling value prop to the average mobile user, my grandmother for instance.

She just wants to pick up her wireless phone, tap the digits and make a call and doesn’t want to be bothered with the skype client, skype out balances, EVDOrA/wifi connection, etc…

In the carrier model (my job), the economic benefits are unclear, especially when a voice network is existing and generating revenue. Balance that with minute plans, free mobile to mobile, the case becomes even murkier. International calls seem to be the only use. Wait and see….

]]> By: Juris Kaža » Veiksmīgais (?) Samsung, paviršais Kazimirs un arī tu, Om? :) - Nozare.lv http://gigaom.com/2008/08/26/thanks-to-smartphones-mobile-voip-growing-steadily/#comment-895944 Juris Kaža » Veiksmīgais (?) Samsung, paviršais Kazimirs un arī tu, Om? :) - Nozare.lv Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:31:27 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=18817#comment-895944 <p>[...] par interneta telefonijas (VoIP) rīkiem, kas darbojas mobilos telefonos. O. Malika raksts atrodas šeit. Protams, es viņu apsteidzu,  iespējams, laika zonu atšķirību [...]</p> [...] par interneta telefonijas (VoIP) rīkiem, kas darbojas mobilos telefonos. O. Malika raksts atrodas šeit. Protams, es viņu apsteidzu,  iespējams, laika zonu atšķirību [...]

]]> By: charlie http://gigaom.com/2008/08/26/thanks-to-smartphones-mobile-voip-growing-steadily/#comment-895918 charlie Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:01:25 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=18817#comment-895918 <p>Om, you are right that truphone is competitive with AT&T during landline calls to India (truphone 10 cents, AT&T 32 cents). Truphone, however, is NOT competitive with AT&T to calls to Europe, Japan and other 1st world countries.</p> Om, you are right that truphone is competitive with AT&T during landline calls to India (truphone 10 cents, AT&T 32 cents). Truphone, however, is NOT competitive with AT&T to calls to Europe, Japan and other 1st world countries.

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2008/08/26/thanks-to-smartphones-mobile-voip-growing-steadily/#comment-895910 Om Malik Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:23:54 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=18817#comment-895910 <p>@all.... sorry about the Truphone link. Fixed it now.</p> @all…. sorry about the Truphone link. Fixed it now.

]]> By: Ravneet http://gigaom.com/2008/08/26/thanks-to-smartphones-mobile-voip-growing-steadily/#comment-895905 Ravneet Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:42:43 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=18817#comment-895905 <p>Truphone link is broken....</p> Truphone link is broken….

]]> By: Alan Wilensky http://gigaom.com/2008/08/26/thanks-to-smartphones-mobile-voip-growing-steadily/#comment-895893 Alan Wilensky Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:27:37 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=18817#comment-895893 <p>A growing number of network engineers are starting to make plans for all IP mobile networks. This will require the gradual re-assignment of the channelized voice allocations (which are now more or less arbitrary form the cell site to the MSO).</p> <p>W will probably see the wholesale conversion within 5 years, but that is not to say that it will be flat rate, either. All IP over mobile is just a way to look at channel overhead.</p> A growing number of network engineers are starting to make plans for all IP mobile networks. This will require the gradual re-assignment of the channelized voice allocations (which are now more or less arbitrary form the cell site to the MSO).

W will probably see the wholesale conversion within 5 years, but that is not to say that it will be flat rate, either. All IP over mobile is just a way to look at channel overhead.

]]> By: Devan Sabaratnam http://gigaom.com/2008/08/26/thanks-to-smartphones-mobile-voip-growing-steadily/#comment-895892 Devan Sabaratnam Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:13:05 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=18817#comment-895892 <p>Om - FYI the Truphone link is broken.</p> Om – FYI the Truphone link is broken.

]]> By: Jim Courtney http://gigaom.com/2008/08/26/thanks-to-smartphones-mobile-voip-growing-steadily/#comment-895888 Jim Courtney Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:51:02 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=18817#comment-895888 <p>With all the mobile web data traffic being generated these days by new smartphones and the resultant load on backhaul as well as the need to build out network, you would think the carriers would love to provide a revenue generating UMA/GAN gateway service (such as T-Mobile@Home) to reduce their wireless carrier infrastructure overhead (new towers, additional backhaul fibre, financing, etc.) not to mention zoning and other regulatory issues associated with cell tower placement. With WiFi it's actually the user paying the, say, $100 overhead to buy the hardware to create a WiFi access point.</p> With all the mobile web data traffic being generated these days by new smartphones and the resultant load on backhaul as well as the need to build out network, you would think the carriers would love to provide a revenue generating UMA/GAN gateway service (such as T-Mobile@Home) to reduce their wireless carrier infrastructure overhead (new towers, additional backhaul fibre, financing, etc.) not to mention zoning and other regulatory issues associated with cell tower placement. With WiFi it’s actually the user paying the, say, $100 overhead to buy the hardware to create a WiFi access point.

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