Comments on: Aircell: On U.S. Planes, VoIP Will Be Muted

By: Tyler Ellis

Tyler Ellis — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:17:26 +0000

The internet was partially built for the purposes of ensuring communications during a nuclear war and they think that they can control it during peace time. I’ve tunnelled every which way, over tcp, using udp, even icmp, there is no way that they can control it. I swear if I have tunnel through aim/icq I”ll do it. The problem aircell is having is that the carriers don’t want peeps using voip over their network Someone really needs to sue the shit out of these cell phone companys for ant-trust or interference with a business, this is like someone owning a toll road who finds out you may use another toll road on the way home so they come to your car and drain out your gasoline so you have just enough juice to get back to their bridge.

By: Will

Will — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:23:09 +0000

People talking on the phone on a plane, annoying? Very I want no part, especially in their “mobile phone voice” aka yelling so they can hear themselves.

However I do agree with the commentary as we all like to test the rules and those of us in the “tinkering” community like to see if we can get away with it or “beat the system”.

I don’t have an issue if some get away with it. I mean not every business traveller or person who uses a computer is going to know how or care to try and use voip while in the air. Telling someone how to do it, making a reference to it – all fine. Thumbing your nose in their face (providers and passengers) is probably going to ruin the fun for the rest of us.

Hey if you did it great, if we want to figure it out maybe you help us do it, but in the mean time “let sleeping dogs lie” don’t ruin it for everyone. Ifyou are annoying your seat mate the whole thing will probably police itself, unlike the kid crying in row 19B – he can’t help it, you can!

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Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:51:52 +0000

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By: Jung Hun Kwag

Jung Hun Kwag — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:42:52 +0000

You know…Korea has repeatedly tried to allow both cellular and voip services on its planes but due to the inane policies of the US FCC and airlines.

Alot of you may complain now but I remember people were just as sensitive about phone usage in the street when mobile phones came out. Bad, good…does it matter?

Insane and inane? yes. I see the same thing here

THe nations that wholeheartedly adopted and promoted usage of mobile technology anywhere like Korea and Japan have essentially leapfrogged the US in many different ways…but mostly socially in terms of emerging technologies. They adapt way easier and thus have a continual competitive edge.

Cheerfully most of the companies and partners I work with aren’t American and don’t have these luddite tendencies so…

By: Lisha Sterling

Lisha Sterling — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:45:01 +0000

“We don’t want people talking on the plane” Ummm… huh? I can just hear the flight attendants now, “All you people there in the passenger section, sit down and shut up!!!” OK, so, they don’t want people talking on the PHONE on the plane. OK, sure. Oops! So, why do they put phones in the back of seats on some flights? You know, the ones that almost no one uses because they are insanely expensive? Yeahhhhh… Who do they think they are fooling?

By: Doug Mohney

Doug Mohney — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:45:32 +0000

Two other possibilities I point out over at *ahem* FierceVoIP…

1) If you violate terms of service (VoIP), Gogo doesn’t have to take your credit card moving forward. and you agree to ToS when you log on, so that convenience of having cross-country internet on the plane can just go away, if Gogo/Aircell decides to pull the rug.

So yes, please, could we have a couple of folks make in-flight VoIP calls on a regular basis, brag about it on theirs blog, and then see what happens?

2) American Airlines doesn’t have to sell you a plane ticket, either, if you violate their guidelines.

“Oh, that’s ridiculous.”

No, it isn’t. If one passenger blabbing to his laptop makes a bunch of people in economy class miserable, the one passenger could lose. And the mean airlines are not afraid to do what (in this case) what the majority of the economy class cabin would support them in.

By: Voice of VOIPSA » Blog Archive » Update on the Aircell / VoIP-on-a-plane prohibition - and an Aircell response

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:06:23 +0000

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Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:00:49 +0000

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By: Martyn Davies

Martyn Davies — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:49:08 +0000

The use of cellphones on planes has been approved by regulators in several countries, and a number of airlines have had trials of the technology (on-board cellphone base stations) which will no doubt turn into real services in time. So whether it’s VoIP, WiFi or cell telephony, I’m afraid that we’re going to have learn to tolerate people chit-chatting on their phones on planes. Expect people talking too loudly, with little courtesy to others, and expect them to be boastful and incredibly indiscreet, as they are today in departure lounges and on trains.

By: Dan York

Dan York — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:38:22 +0000

Om,

Thanks for your kind words and links to my articles on the VOIP Security Alliance (VOIPSA) blog. Just one minor point… I’m not Voxeo’s CTO but I do work for him! I work in the “Office of the CTO” and report to Voxeo CTO RJ Auburn.

Thanks again,
Dan

P.S. I do agree with Doug that there are larger social issues we have to sort out with the idea of using VoIP (or any other telephony technology) on planes.