Comments on: No VoIP In New Nokia N-Series Phones? Is Nokia Turning Its Back on MobileVoIP? http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:44:08 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Ralf http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-969673 Ralf Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:47:49 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-969673 <p>I had a conversation about this with the German Nokia Support. The guy on the phone admitted, that they removed the client due to pressure from the network carriers, but they obviously didn't want to make an official statment about this. However, he said that Nokia is listening to their customers - which is a good thing. So I can only urge you guys to sign this petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/s60v5sip/petition.html</p> <p>Another inquiry at Nokia USA yielded, that Nokia is in fact "planning" to release the SIP client on the N97 in H2/2009. Don't know why I got 2 crontradicting responses. Either way I think it would be great if we could get as many signatures as possible. Please share the link!</p> I had a conversation about this with the German Nokia Support. The guy on the phone admitted, that they removed the client due to pressure from the network carriers, but they obviously didn’t want to make an official statment about this. However, he said that Nokia is listening to their customers – which is a good thing. So I can only urge you guys to sign this petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/s60v5sip/petition.html

Another inquiry at Nokia USA yielded, that Nokia is in fact “planning” to release the SIP client on the N97 in H2/2009. Don’t know why I got 2 crontradicting responses. Either way I think it would be great if we could get as many signatures as possible. Please share the link!

]]> By: Ward Mundy http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-969203 Ward Mundy Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:21:57 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-969203 <p>It's product differentiation alright. If memory serves me, Nokia hasn't shipped a new phone with a SIP stack and SIP client in more than a year. Just when everyone else is starting to think about convergence, wouldn't you know Nokia would be headed in the opposite direction. Too bad.</p> It’s product differentiation alright. If memory serves me, Nokia hasn’t shipped a new phone with a SIP stack and SIP client in more than a year. Just when everyone else is starting to think about convergence, wouldn’t you know Nokia would be headed in the opposite direction. Too bad.

]]> By: JB http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-943580 JB Wed, 13 May 2009 11:40:37 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-943580 <p>Nice work Om, I suggest you read the fine manual to find out that n78 never had a VoIP stack. It's called product differentiation, not a new company policy.</p> Nice work Om, I suggest you read the fine manual to find out that n78 never had a VoIP stack. It’s called product differentiation, not a new company policy.

]]> By: Nokia isn’t releasing a touch-screen smartphone : Mobile Industry Review http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-901371 Nokia isn’t releasing a touch-screen smartphone : Mobile Industry Review Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:47:08 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-901371 <p>[...] release of S60 3rd edition in the interests of platform stability (probably wise given the ‘missing VoIP stack‘ issues with the N96 / [...]</p> [...] release of S60 3rd edition in the interests of platform stability (probably wise given the ‘missing VoIP stack‘ issues with the N96 / [...]

]]> By: Lance http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-899464 Lance Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:55:25 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-899464 <p>Markus Gobel's Tech News,</p> <p>Great observation. You've pointed out that newer, lower cost VOIP companies still share resemblences to companies in any competitive market. Chris Anderson's Wired Article on the road to "free" shows that cheaper, emerging markets still compete for platform and profits, but also for information/data/statistics as externalities.</p> Markus Gobel’s Tech News,

Great observation. You’ve pointed out that newer, lower cost VOIP companies still share resemblences to companies in any competitive market. Chris Anderson’s Wired Article on the road to “free” shows that cheaper, emerging markets still compete for platform and profits, but also for information/data/statistics as externalities.

]]> By: Nokia N-series without VoIP?!? | Nokia Wimax http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-898348 Nokia N-series without VoIP?!? | Nokia Wimax Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:59:45 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-898348 <p>[...] have some unpleasant news for the Nokia’s fans. Thanks to gigaom.com we ca n inform you that the new cell phones from N-series will not have VoIP compitability. Many of [...]</p> [...] have some unpleasant news for the Nokia’s fans. Thanks to gigaom.com we ca n inform you that the new cell phones from N-series will not have VoIP compitability. Many of [...]

]]> By: AllMobileTech » Blog Archive » No VoIP In New Nokia N-Series Phones?!? http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-898314 AllMobileTech » Blog Archive » No VoIP In New Nokia N-Series Phones?!? Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:31:34 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-898314 <p>[...] managed to learn from gigaom.com  that some of new Nokia’s models from N-series will not have VoIP compatibility. Many of the [...]</p> [...] managed to learn from gigaom.com  that some of new Nokia’s models from N-series will not have VoIP compatibility. Many of the [...]

]]> By: Techcraver.com | Craving tech, craving life! » Blog Archive » Fring Comes To Life On the Nokia N96 and N78 http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-897795 Techcraver.com | Craving tech, craving life! » Blog Archive » Fring Comes To Life On the Nokia N96 and N78 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:03:40 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-897795 <p>[...] until this point, VoIP was thought to be missing on the new Nokia Nseries.  Has Fring adapted their software to utilze VAS, the new [...]</p> [...] until this point, VoIP was thought to be missing on the new Nokia Nseries.  Has Fring adapted their software to utilze VAS, the new [...]

]]> By: Techcraver.com | Craving tech, craving life! » Blog Archive » Clearing The Air: Nokia, Mobile VoIP, and Truphone http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-897759 Techcraver.com | Craving tech, craving life! » Blog Archive » Clearing The Air: Nokia, Mobile VoIP, and Truphone Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:13:17 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-897759 <p>[...] September 23, Om Malik wrote a post regarding Nokia’s support of mobile VoIP service in the newest Nseries handsets from Nokia.  [...]</p> [...] September 23, Om Malik wrote a post regarding Nokia’s support of mobile VoIP service in the newest Nseries handsets from Nokia.  [...]

]]> By: Get Your Nokia VoIP on with Fring - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-897705 Get Your Nokia VoIP on with Fring - GigaOM Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:14:51 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-897705 <p>[...] Higginbotham, Thursday, September 4, 2008 at 9:14 AM PT Comments (0) Despite Nokia crippling VoIP on its latest N-series handsets, mobile VoIP companies are coming through with updated apps to keep [...]</p> [...] Higginbotham, Thursday, September 4, 2008 at 9:14 AM PT Comments (0) Despite Nokia crippling VoIP on its latest N-series handsets, mobile VoIP companies are coming through with updated apps to keep [...]

]]> By: If You Want To VoIP, Wait Before You Buy Nokia N96 - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-897483 If You Want To VoIP, Wait Before You Buy Nokia N96 - GigaOM Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:50:11 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-897483 <p>[...] — a very expensive Swiss army knife — in that it does a lot of things, except one: It won’t allow you to make VoIP calls. Apparently some of the more well-known VoIP services, such as Fring and Truphone, will eventually [...]</p> [...] — a very expensive Swiss army knife — in that it does a lot of things, except one: It won’t allow you to make VoIP calls. Apparently some of the more well-known VoIP services, such as Fring and Truphone, will eventually [...]

]]> By: Tech Leader » Steve Song » SA Telecoms Cool Wall http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-897393 Tech Leader » Steve Song » SA Telecoms Cool Wall Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:22:50 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-897393 <p>[...] is uncool for removing WiFi from some of their [...]</p> [...] is uncool for removing WiFi from some of their [...]

]]> By: Nokia ditching VOIP? | Voip News & Information http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-897179 Nokia ditching VOIP? | Voip News & Information Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:18:51 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-897179 <p>[...] more info here addthis_url = 'http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voipinreview.com%2Fblog%2F09%2Fnokia-ditching-voip%2F'; addthis_title = 'Nokia+Ditching+Voip%3F'; addthis_pub = 'mediarefined'; [...]</p> [...] more info here addthis_url = ‘http%3A%2F%2Fwww.voipinreview.com%2Fblog%2F09%2Fnokia-ditching-voip%2F’; addthis_title = ‘Nokia+Ditching+Voip%3F’; addthis_pub = ‘mediarefined’; [...]

]]> By: TM Forum Community - Blogs http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-897172 TM Forum Community - Blogs Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:59:57 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-897172 <p>[...] if by magic, Nokia has quietly disappeared the SIP stack from its latest N-series gadgets, thus breaking at least three mobile-VoIP services. [Ed - Oops! We got one wrong here. See at end. [...]</p> [...] if by magic, Nokia has quietly disappeared the SIP stack from its latest N-series gadgets, thus breaking at least three mobile-VoIP services. [Ed - Oops! We got one wrong here. See at end. [...]

]]> By: SA Telecoms Cool Wall | Many Possibilities http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-897160 SA Telecoms Cool Wall | Many Possibilities Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:05:32 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-897160 <p>[...] is uncool for removing WiFi from some of their [...]</p> [...] is uncool for removing WiFi from some of their [...]

]]> By: Nokia senza VoIP - Marco Camisani Calzolari http://gigaom.com/2008/08/23/no-voip-in-new-nokia-n-series-devices-is-nokia-turning-its-back-on-voip/#comment-896965 Nokia senza VoIP - Marco Camisani Calzolari Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:03:10 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=18473#comment-896965 <p>[...] Gigaom dice che Nokia ha tolto il client VoIP dai prossimi telefoni della serie N. Quello in sostanza che usavo dalla Francia, con su un numero free fornito da Messagenet, con cui potevo telefonare a tariffe nazionali dal cellulare. Sembra che sia stata una scelta obbligata a causa di alcuni accordi con gli operatori di telefonia mobile che di VoIP di terzi credo non volessero nemmeno sentire parlare. Io però penso che l’uso di quel client fosse ristretto a una piccola cerchia di smanettoni. In Francia ho trovato amici italiani con cellulari N-serie con WiFi, a cui cercavo di spiegare come avrebbero potuto rispariamo il quasi un euro a chiamata, grazie al VoIP, ma che facevano fatica perfino a capire di cosa stavo parlando, altro che configurarsi il REALM il SIP proxy e le relative porte! Inoltre basta installare un client come Fring o Gizmo per continuare a usare il proprio VoIP anche senza il client di Nokia. Mi stupiscono sempre questo genere di dinamiche che si ripetono spesso: una compagnia conquista il mercato perché è “aperta” e permette l’installazione di qualunque software di terze parti, su SO aperti. Poi incomincia a “chiudere”, senza rendersi conto che perderà contestualmente lo stesso mercato che le ha permesso il successo. [...]</p> [...] Gigaom dice che Nokia ha tolto il client VoIP dai prossimi telefoni della serie N. Quello in sostanza che usavo dalla Francia, con su un numero free fornito da Messagenet, con cui potevo telefonare a tariffe nazionali dal cellulare. Sembra che sia stata una scelta obbligata a causa di alcuni accordi con gli operatori di telefonia mobile che di VoIP di terzi credo non volessero nemmeno sentire parlare. Io però penso che l’uso di quel client fosse ristretto a una piccola cerchia di smanettoni. In Francia ho trovato amici italiani con cellulari N-serie con WiFi, a cui cercavo di spiegare come avrebbero potuto rispariamo il quasi un euro a chiamata, grazie al VoIP, ma che facevano fatica perfino a capire di cosa stavo parlando, altro che configurarsi il REALM il SIP proxy e le relative porte! Inoltre basta installare un client come Fring o Gizmo per continuare a usare il proprio VoIP anche senza il client di Nokia. Mi stupiscono sempre questo genere di dinamiche che si ripetono spesso: una compagnia conquista il mercato perché è “aperta” e permette l’installazione di qualunque software di terze parti, su SO aperti. Poi incomincia a “chiudere”, senza rendersi conto che perderà contestualmente lo stesso mercato che le ha permesso il successo. [...]

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