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	<title>Comments on: Who Wins: Verizon FiOS vs AT&amp;T U-Verse</title>
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		<title>By: For everyone stuck without Verizon.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144438</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[For everyone stuck without Verizon.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 05:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I had the absolute pleasure to live in Tampa, Florida in a local service area that was served by Verizon for all of our needs. We had fios right to the outside service point, provided by Verizon right up to the box on the outside of our residence. Cable tv, wireless, and internet access as well as local telephone service bought and paid for a flat fee was nothing short of amazing for us. was an easy descision, as well as an easy installation that just brought myself as a business owner more service options and hsftd OPTIONS than i can ever hope for right now.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i would just like to know what the current Fios hopeful packages offered by verizon for business customers in my area are and what the benefit over ATT would be.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Everything that i try to do just ends up in a bad place with att saying that they dont offer Fios but they will offer a business speed of 6.0 Mbps, with a business account.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have already had a speed test done on my ADSL line by an att certified tech that upgraded as well as provided the top speed that i could hope to achieve over copper lines.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;After seeing his results and also after accepting ATT over old copper lines, the final results&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;ended up at a miserable 2.5 Mbps Tops for my physical location, after Att corporate suggesting i upgrade my service to 6.0 Mbps Business Dsl, i cancelled any requests to do so after seeing that the maximum bandwidth we could expect was in fact 2.5 MBPS over old ATT copper lines. At the same time they were just more than willing to upgrade us to 6.0 MBPS business dsl, even though the best physical lines we could hope to get from them simply cannot support those speeds.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the absolute pleasure to live in Tampa, Florida in a local service area that was served by Verizon for all of our needs. We had fios right to the outside service point, provided by Verizon right up to the box on the outside of our residence. Cable tv, wireless, and internet access as well as local telephone service bought and paid for a flat fee was nothing short of amazing for us. was an easy descision, as well as an easy installation that just brought myself as a business owner more service options and hsftd OPTIONS than i can ever hope for right now.</p>
<p>i would just like to know what the current Fios hopeful packages offered by verizon for business customers in my area are and what the benefit over ATT would be.</p>
<p>Everything that i try to do just ends up in a bad place with att saying that they dont offer Fios but they will offer a business speed of 6.0 Mbps, with a business account.</p>
<p>I have already had a speed test done on my ADSL line by an att certified tech that upgraded as well as provided the top speed that i could hope to achieve over copper lines.</p>
<p>After seeing his results and also after accepting ATT over old copper lines, the final results</p>
<p>ended up at a miserable 2.5 Mbps Tops for my physical location, after Att corporate suggesting i upgrade my service to 6.0 Mbps Business Dsl, i cancelled any requests to do so after seeing that the maximum bandwidth we could expect was in fact 2.5 MBPS over old ATT copper lines. At the same time they were just more than willing to upgrade us to 6.0 MBPS business dsl, even though the best physical lines we could hope to get from them simply cannot support those speeds.</p>
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		<title>By: NJ Broadband</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144437</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NJ Broadband]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 02:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Given the course of time here in NJ, what the heck were you smoking?  Left FIOS faster than there lousy service and billing.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the course of time here in NJ, what the heck were you smoking?  Left FIOS faster than there lousy service and billing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerrell</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144436</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jerrell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;There are some good comments here, and I know that FiOS is up and coming in a big way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, if you check the actual pricing for services, you can see AT&amp;T Uverse is still cheaper.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Verizon is about $120.00 for a decent package, but Uverse bundles are about $30.00 cheaper for comparable. Here&#039;s the Uverse deal:
http://www.att-services.net/att-u-verse.html&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some good comments here, and I know that FiOS is up and coming in a big way.</p>
<p>However, if you check the actual pricing for services, you can see AT&amp;T Uverse is still cheaper.</p>
<p>Verizon is about $120.00 for a decent package, but Uverse bundles are about $30.00 cheaper for comparable. Here&#8217;s the Uverse deal:<br />
<a href="http://www.att-services.net/att-u-verse.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.att-services.net/att-u-verse.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: charlie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144435</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charlie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I have UVerse. I train FiOS Support. It&#039;s been fun to watch the competition between ATT and Verizon. AT&amp;T will never catch Verizon on the Internet Speed side of things but I have seen Verizon, lately, add more features to its DVRs and general in-home Video Network that have been available to UVerse users for some time now. For instance, ATT&#039;s current ability to control the DVR (setting up recordings, scheduling, viewing, etc). Verizon does not have this. Its MultiRoom DVR package only allows one to view recorded programs from the dummy boxes and it is an added cost to have that package. Also, the WebRemote Package -- this had been available at ATT for a long time before Verizon launched its version. The picture quality does not compare - Verizon&#039;s is much better (not just because I train it but I have seen this over and over again at friends&#039; and family&#039;s homes) IPTV does have its problems - latency, etc.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have UVerse. I train FiOS Support. It&#8217;s been fun to watch the competition between ATT and Verizon. AT&amp;T will never catch Verizon on the Internet Speed side of things but I have seen Verizon, lately, add more features to its DVRs and general in-home Video Network that have been available to UVerse users for some time now. For instance, ATT&#8217;s current ability to control the DVR (setting up recordings, scheduling, viewing, etc). Verizon does not have this. Its MultiRoom DVR package only allows one to view recorded programs from the dummy boxes and it is an added cost to have that package. Also, the WebRemote Package &#8212; this had been available at ATT for a long time before Verizon launched its version. The picture quality does not compare &#8211; Verizon&#8217;s is much better (not just because I train it but I have seen this over and over again at friends&#8217; and family&#8217;s homes) IPTV does have its problems &#8211; latency, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: AT&#38;T U-verse vs. Verizon FiOS: a quick look</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AT&#38;T U-verse vs. Verizon FiOS: a quick look]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] (FTTN). This results in a much quicker deployment time, much lower cost for consumers, and much lower initial out-of-pocket costs from AT&amp;T&#8217;s coffers. AT&amp;T also has the option of switching from FTTN to FTTP once the overall need for additional [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (FTTN). This results in a much quicker deployment time, much lower cost for consumers, and much lower initial out-of-pocket costs from AT&amp;T&#8217;s coffers. AT&amp;T also has the option of switching from FTTN to FTTP once the overall need for additional [...]</p>
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		<title>By: big mule</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[big mule]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 01:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What isn&#039;t mentioned here is that Uverse isn&#039;t DSL.  It will has much, much faster speeds than DSL.  I&#039;m an installer/repairman for AT&amp;T and I assure you, it is far faster than AT&amp;T standard DSL and any cable DSL I have used. The big problem for AT&amp;T is that in so many areas, the old copper cables have been neglected for years.  It seems the company who swears they are all about customer service believes that it&#039;s techs should get X number of jobs done per day.  Period.  So, in an effort to clear the maximum number of jobs, the copper cable that the big wigs planned to use for the final 3k-5k feet to the customer is in sorry shape.  So, it must be repaired and/or replaced to get the new Uverse offering up and running.  The only problem?  The big wigs don&#039;t realize the shape their facilities are in thanks to middle management insisting that the techs scramble to get the work done.  And to top it off, the copper cable required for Uverse to work is 40 or more years old.  One entire section of the town I work in everyday has phone cable that was placed in 1947.

If the big wigs could ever get middle management to pull their heads out of their rumps, Uverse could be the best Phone/TV/Internet option out there.  However, that could be a big &quot;if&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What isn&#8217;t mentioned here is that Uverse isn&#8217;t DSL.  It will has much, much faster speeds than DSL.  I&#8217;m an installer/repairman for AT&amp;T and I assure you, it is far faster than AT&amp;T standard DSL and any cable DSL I have used. The big problem for AT&amp;T is that in so many areas, the old copper cables have been neglected for years.  It seems the company who swears they are all about customer service believes that it&#8217;s techs should get X number of jobs done per day.  Period.  So, in an effort to clear the maximum number of jobs, the copper cable that the big wigs planned to use for the final 3k-5k feet to the customer is in sorry shape.  So, it must be repaired and/or replaced to get the new Uverse offering up and running.  The only problem?  The big wigs don&#8217;t realize the shape their facilities are in thanks to middle management insisting that the techs scramble to get the work done.  And to top it off, the copper cable required for Uverse to work is 40 or more years old.  One entire section of the town I work in everyday has phone cable that was placed in 1947.</p>
<p>If the big wigs could ever get middle management to pull their heads out of their rumps, Uverse could be the best Phone/TV/Internet option out there.  However, that could be a big &#8220;if&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: girly girl</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144432</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[girly girl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FIOS VS U-VERSE


What I have is a direct relationship with both companies. I have worked for both in FIOS AND U-VERSE Departments. I also have an BSIT degree and a good understanding for computer networks. I am also a guy that loves TV and ESPN, Sci-Fi, History CH, Smithsonian to name a few. I guess that’s mostly what I watch but my opinion about the two services is based on what I know and what I have experienced over the last few years. Getting right to the point, FTTP is always better than FTTN, PERIOD. Why would I limit my data availability if I had the choice? Two, future advancements is not limited to the condition of OLD COPPER. U-verse is limited to four TV streams, MAX TWO HI DEF; I currently have four HI DEF TV&#039;S. (TWO KIDS, MASTER AND LIVING AREA). I could not get hi-definition to all TV’s on deferent channels with U-VERSE. The prices of TV’S are coming down and they will continue in the future. That said, IPTV is great if not for the limitations of the copper network that AT&amp;T uses. NOISE, ADSL CROSSTALK, BAD WIRE, PACKET LOSS, ERRORS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE COPPER WILL ALWAYS BE PRESENT IN U-VERSE Unless they replace the cable. How costly would that be? Copper, man power and the upcoming strike...WOW. I would like to know what everyone out here thinks and do they see it like I do. Also, the benefit of fiber to the prem removes the bandwidth issues and will provide a platform for advancements in the future. 4, 6, 8 Hi Def TV&#039;s 15, 20 30Mgs-DS, 5-30Mgs-US and with no loss in TV quality and or any limit in video streams. Oh yes, FIOS is not full IPTV, but if they decide to do so they can with no issues and or problems but the code used to do it. As a past employee of both (I would choose FIOS without a second thought. That’s just my opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FIOS VS U-VERSE</p>
<p>What I have is a direct relationship with both companies. I have worked for both in FIOS AND U-VERSE Departments. I also have an BSIT degree and a good understanding for computer networks. I am also a guy that loves TV and ESPN, Sci-Fi, History CH, Smithsonian to name a few. I guess that’s mostly what I watch but my opinion about the two services is based on what I know and what I have experienced over the last few years. Getting right to the point, FTTP is always better than FTTN, PERIOD. Why would I limit my data availability if I had the choice? Two, future advancements is not limited to the condition of OLD COPPER. U-verse is limited to four TV streams, MAX TWO HI DEF; I currently have four HI DEF TV&#8217;S. (TWO KIDS, MASTER AND LIVING AREA). I could not get hi-definition to all TV’s on deferent channels with U-VERSE. The prices of TV’S are coming down and they will continue in the future. That said, IPTV is great if not for the limitations of the copper network that AT&amp;T uses. NOISE, ADSL CROSSTALK, BAD WIRE, PACKET LOSS, ERRORS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE COPPER WILL ALWAYS BE PRESENT IN U-VERSE Unless they replace the cable. How costly would that be? Copper, man power and the upcoming strike&#8230;WOW. I would like to know what everyone out here thinks and do they see it like I do. Also, the benefit of fiber to the prem removes the bandwidth issues and will provide a platform for advancements in the future. 4, 6, 8 Hi Def TV&#8217;s 15, 20 30Mgs-DS, 5-30Mgs-US and with no loss in TV quality and or any limit in video streams. Oh yes, FIOS is not full IPTV, but if they decide to do so they can with no issues and or problems but the code used to do it. As a past employee of both (I would choose FIOS without a second thought. That’s just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michelle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 23:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a regular non-tech savvy person who appreciates reading these comments.  I ordered U-Verse, which is schedluled for a 2/28 install; but, i&#039;m getting cold feet after looking more closely.  The level 2 tech support at att told me fiber to node installation is standand; but fiber to premises is available as a field supervisor call; i&#039;ll have to wait for day of install to make the request. I&#039;m not looking forward to the possible confrontation about that and being labeled as a problem customer even before I get the service.  My question is, if i insist on fiber to premises install, will that give me results more similar to FIOS.  I really wanted FIOS but it&#039;s not coming to my area and i&#039;m tired of tha satelite problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a regular non-tech savvy person who appreciates reading these comments.  I ordered U-Verse, which is schedluled for a 2/28 install; but, i&#8217;m getting cold feet after looking more closely.  The level 2 tech support at att told me fiber to node installation is standand; but fiber to premises is available as a field supervisor call; i&#8217;ll have to wait for day of install to make the request. I&#8217;m not looking forward to the possible confrontation about that and being labeled as a problem customer even before I get the service.  My question is, if i insist on fiber to premises install, will that give me results more similar to FIOS.  I really wanted FIOS but it&#8217;s not coming to my area and i&#8217;m tired of tha satelite problems.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144430</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree with AT&amp;T. I was once the U-verse tech and had a real look at them both. I worked on uverse from the start and now have FIOS. I will always believe that its better to have FTTP than FTTN and that the limit of 4 streams of TV, two hidef is one factor that has stopped many people from leaving cable and sat service. I have three TV&#039;s and all are HI def on different ch and I have 15Mgs ds and 5Mgs US with no problem. Try that with u-verse, you can&#039;t. I know of people that have installed u-verse and have removed it when it was understood that they could not get more than two hi def signals. I guess thats better than before, it was one stream for about a year into the service in the LA area. Penny wise and a pound foolish is the truth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with AT&amp;T. I was once the U-verse tech and had a real look at them both. I worked on uverse from the start and now have FIOS. I will always believe that its better to have FTTP than FTTN and that the limit of 4 streams of TV, two hidef is one factor that has stopped many people from leaving cable and sat service. I have three TV&#8217;s and all are HI def on different ch and I have 15Mgs ds and 5Mgs US with no problem. Try that with u-verse, you can&#8217;t. I know of people that have installed u-verse and have removed it when it was understood that they could not get more than two hi def signals. I guess thats better than before, it was one stream for about a year into the service in the LA area. Penny wise and a pound foolish is the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144429</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brendan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The U-Verse service offered by AT&amp;T is the most cost effective solution in the industry at the moment as it offers you acceptable speeds at prices that rival cable companies. The support leaves something to be desired, but currently the service is quite adequate for the residental user. Currently the only advantage I see Verizon having is in the Business Sector where speeds like their fastest internet package offers, 50mbps Download and 20mbps Upload, would even really be needed. As for where Verizon is making it major money it would is not really the wireless sector though as even though they do have quite a large wireless sector they get a larger volume of income from the business sector which relies largely on fibre optic communications. This is where I see the FTTP rollouts really benefiting them. These FTTP rollouts by Verzion are ultimately providing better resources for the home based business.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The U-Verse service offered by AT&amp;T is the most cost effective solution in the industry at the moment as it offers you acceptable speeds at prices that rival cable companies. The support leaves something to be desired, but currently the service is quite adequate for the residental user. Currently the only advantage I see Verizon having is in the Business Sector where speeds like their fastest internet package offers, 50mbps Download and 20mbps Upload, would even really be needed. As for where Verizon is making it major money it would is not really the wireless sector though as even though they do have quite a large wireless sector they get a larger volume of income from the business sector which relies largely on fibre optic communications. This is where I see the FTTP rollouts really benefiting them. These FTTP rollouts by Verzion are ultimately providing better resources for the home based business.</p>
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		<title>By: HAwkish</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144428</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HAwkish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think AT&amp;T is the wiser one overall. AT&amp;T is cranking out the U-verse installs on a faster and BROADER national scale than Verizon. Yes, FTTP is much better than FTTN. But...., All AT&amp;T&#039;s gotta do is get the customers with U-verse tv, hispeed internet, and U-verse voice ( which allows you to merge your cell and home phone messaging among other things).  Then they whip out the fiber the rest of the way at thier convenience. AT&amp;T is already rolling out FTTP in all new areas. Verizon will probably be way behind except in &quot;Verizon only &quot; areas.

I&#039;m telling you U-verse works fine if you are near the Xbox (&lt; 3000 ft )don&#039;t have a impedence mismatch on the drop line (for ex. 22 ga. to 26ga wire or any other gauge size change), good coax or cat5, cat6 even better and clean tight connections. My internet speed doesn&#039;t really matter to me, just as long as it stays up and running.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think AT&amp;T is the wiser one overall. AT&amp;T is cranking out the U-verse installs on a faster and BROADER national scale than Verizon. Yes, FTTP is much better than FTTN. But&#8230;., All AT&amp;T&#8217;s gotta do is get the customers with U-verse tv, hispeed internet, and U-verse voice ( which allows you to merge your cell and home phone messaging among other things).  Then they whip out the fiber the rest of the way at thier convenience. AT&amp;T is already rolling out FTTP in all new areas. Verizon will probably be way behind except in &#8220;Verizon only &#8221; areas.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m telling you U-verse works fine if you are near the Xbox (&lt; 3000 ft )don&#8217;t have a impedence mismatch on the drop line (for ex. 22 ga. to 26ga wire or any other gauge size change), good coax or cat5, cat6 even better and clean tight connections. My internet speed doesn&#8217;t really matter to me, just as long as it stays up and running.</p>
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		<title>By: Universal Broadband: The Begging Begins</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144427</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Universal Broadband: The Begging Begins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] I&#8217;m glad they&#8217;re making money, especially because they are doing so while they also invest in the next generation infrastructure in their service areas. If there&#8217;s profit in a venture, a corporation can take it without picking Uncle Sam&#8217;s pocket. Look at Verizon&#8217;s FiOS deployments. It&#8217;s not spending $23 billion laying fiber out of the goodness of its heart, but out of interest in offering competitive services that will keep it in business. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;m glad they&#8217;re making money, especially because they are doing so while they also invest in the next generation infrastructure in their service areas. If there&#8217;s profit in a venture, a corporation can take it without picking Uncle Sam&#8217;s pocket. Look at Verizon&#8217;s FiOS deployments. It&#8217;s not spending $23 billion laying fiber out of the goodness of its heart, but out of interest in offering competitive services that will keep it in business. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144426</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 04:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I sure am glad you chimed in, Jack.  I just signed up for U-Verse here in Columbus and thought I may have made a big mistake leaving Time Warner from reading all of the proceeding comments.  I hope to have the same experience you are reporting.  Once it is installed in mid-December I will report what I find.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sure am glad you chimed in, Jack.  I just signed up for U-Verse here in Columbus and thought I may have made a big mistake leaving Time Warner from reading all of the proceeding comments.  I hope to have the same experience you are reporting.  Once it is installed in mid-December I will report what I find.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144425</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We live in Oakwood, Ohio, near Dayton. We got rid of Time-Warner and got ATT U-verse at the end of September. I think U-verse is superior to the cable service we had. I now get many more channels, including many more HD channels. Pictures on our plasma TV are much clearer and noise-free. We only have the one TV. We can record 2 HD and 2 non-HD simultaneously while using two hard-wired computers and two wireless laptops. The wireless signal strength is better than we had before. We can use VOIP with video between here and Germany without a problem. I&#039;ve read some of the earlier comments on U-verse that suggest limitations and problems that we haven&#039;t encountered. I believe ATT just introduced U-verse in this area, and I conclude that the previously-described issues must have been worked out before we signed up. We got the top-end tv-phone-internet package with internet speed guaranteed at 6 MB/sec or better. (In the tests I&#039;ve run, it clocks at 9+ mbps to 17+ mbps download and 900+ mbps upload.) Installation took about three hours. I think ATT will be able to get as many customers as they want in this area. Time-Warner just dropped NBC from their channel offering because the local NBC outlet wants 30 cents more per customer per month. And Time-Warner converter boxes have had a lot of problems (I had to replace my HD converter box five times in a little over a year.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We live in Oakwood, Ohio, near Dayton. We got rid of Time-Warner and got ATT U-verse at the end of September. I think U-verse is superior to the cable service we had. I now get many more channels, including many more HD channels. Pictures on our plasma TV are much clearer and noise-free. We only have the one TV. We can record 2 HD and 2 non-HD simultaneously while using two hard-wired computers and two wireless laptops. The wireless signal strength is better than we had before. We can use VOIP with video between here and Germany without a problem. I&#8217;ve read some of the earlier comments on U-verse that suggest limitations and problems that we haven&#8217;t encountered. I believe ATT just introduced U-verse in this area, and I conclude that the previously-described issues must have been worked out before we signed up. We got the top-end tv-phone-internet package with internet speed guaranteed at 6 MB/sec or better. (In the tests I&#8217;ve run, it clocks at 9+ mbps to 17+ mbps download and 900+ mbps upload.) Installation took about three hours. I think ATT will be able to get as many customers as they want in this area. Time-Warner just dropped NBC from their channel offering because the local NBC outlet wants 30 cents more per customer per month. And Time-Warner converter boxes have had a lot of problems (I had to replace my HD converter box five times in a little over a year.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Delagarza</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144424</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ray Delagarza]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finally someone decided to address a couple of issues.  First, and foremost, is the initial capital costs associated with providing media based services.  Offer TV over existing facilities with minimal costs boosts net income.  ROI is quick and Wall Street loves that.  New sub-divisions will be served to the home with fiber.  The transition will occur over time, but mass coverage helps drive revenue to allow for the upgrades in the future.

As for the speed of a copper based service, most average consumers do not need high speed, low latency connectivity.  People speak of VoIP, but that is what the voice service with AT&amp;T is.  LD costs are going to be a thing of the past.  A global IP network, based on MPLS within the core will suffice.  &quot;On Net&quot; calls will eventually be free regardless of where you are at in the world.  There are only a couple of companies with a world wide network that can capitalize on this strategy, with AT&amp;T being the leader.

So I will continue to enjoy my U-Verse service and all of the niceties that come with it.  I have not heard a single complaint in the Northern Ohio region and people are begging for it over Time Warner and Cox Cable due to the features.  For the average Joe it is great.  Yeah, they will have to do something down the road for the next generation, but you have to make money in order to upgrade the infrastructure.  I like the plan and I like my returns on my AT&amp;T stock.

By the way, check out the Time Warner Telecom stock.  20% loss in one day due to revenue concerns.  Tough to continue to supplement voice and data networking when the Bells are moving in.  So TW and Comcast can continue to steal away the $23 voice lines while the phone company continues to capture the $100 TV services.  The answer to the question on who is going to win out is simple:  The Bell tolls for thee.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally someone decided to address a couple of issues.  First, and foremost, is the initial capital costs associated with providing media based services.  Offer TV over existing facilities with minimal costs boosts net income.  ROI is quick and Wall Street loves that.  New sub-divisions will be served to the home with fiber.  The transition will occur over time, but mass coverage helps drive revenue to allow for the upgrades in the future.</p>
<p>As for the speed of a copper based service, most average consumers do not need high speed, low latency connectivity.  People speak of VoIP, but that is what the voice service with AT&amp;T is.  LD costs are going to be a thing of the past.  A global IP network, based on MPLS within the core will suffice.  &#8220;On Net&#8221; calls will eventually be free regardless of where you are at in the world.  There are only a couple of companies with a world wide network that can capitalize on this strategy, with AT&amp;T being the leader.</p>
<p>So I will continue to enjoy my U-Verse service and all of the niceties that come with it.  I have not heard a single complaint in the Northern Ohio region and people are begging for it over Time Warner and Cox Cable due to the features.  For the average Joe it is great.  Yeah, they will have to do something down the road for the next generation, but you have to make money in order to upgrade the infrastructure.  I like the plan and I like my returns on my AT&amp;T stock.</p>
<p>By the way, check out the Time Warner Telecom stock.  20% loss in one day due to revenue concerns.  Tough to continue to supplement voice and data networking when the Bells are moving in.  So TW and Comcast can continue to steal away the $23 voice lines while the phone company continues to capture the $100 TV services.  The answer to the question on who is going to win out is simple:  The Bell tolls for thee.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/19/who-wins-verizon-fios-vs-att-u-verse/#comment-144423</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;regular DSL packages whose speeds are spanked silly by cable offerings&quot;

I agree with Paddy.  My cable provider markets a 10 Mbps connection, while my AT&amp;T DSL connection is a mere 6 Mbps.  How much does a consumer need?  I&#039;ve had both services at the same address and I cannot tell the difference.  Honestly, most web servers aren&#039;t going to serve up a web content at 10 Mbps anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;regular DSL packages whose speeds are spanked silly by cable offerings&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with Paddy.  My cable provider markets a 10 Mbps connection, while my AT&amp;T DSL connection is a mere 6 Mbps.  How much does a consumer need?  I&#8217;ve had both services at the same address and I cannot tell the difference.  Honestly, most web servers aren&#8217;t going to serve up a web content at 10 Mbps anyway.</p>
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