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	<title>Comments on: For NBC, Others an Olympian Online Bonanza</title>
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		<title>By: How Do You Rate NBC&#8217;s Olympics? - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/13/for-nbc-others-an-olympian-online-bonanza/#comment-143936</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How Do You Rate NBC&#8217;s Olympics? - GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] This story is meant for our US readers only. As many of you already know, I am giving Olympics the miss and perhaps that is why I am not familiar with the daily coverage on NBC and its online properties. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This story is meant for our US readers only. As many of you already know, I am giving Olympics the miss and perhaps that is why I am not familiar with the daily coverage on NBC and its online properties. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: shrek</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shrek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think those athletes are pretty amazing at what they do, and it&#039;s definitely entertaining for me to watch them. However, people have a habit of taking things for more than what they are.  Olympic is a sporting event, nothing more or less, but the list of things that people connect with a sporting event goes on and on...

1) politics (no brainer)
2) economy (&quot;things might just turn around if we win the game&quot;, sound familiar?)
3) personal/national pride (no brainer)
4) dietary choice (don&#039;t eat dogs)
5) clothing choice (don&#039;t wear fur)
...

on and on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think those athletes are pretty amazing at what they do, and it&#8217;s definitely entertaining for me to watch them. However, people have a habit of taking things for more than what they are.  Olympic is a sporting event, nothing more or less, but the list of things that people connect with a sporting event goes on and on&#8230;</p>
<p>1) politics (no brainer)<br />
2) economy (&#8220;things might just turn around if we win the game&#8221;, sound familiar?)<br />
3) personal/national pride (no brainer)<br />
4) dietary choice (don&#8217;t eat dogs)<br />
5) clothing choice (don&#8217;t wear fur)<br />
&#8230;</p>
<p>on and on.</p>
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		<title>By: Gadgets or girls? at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gadgets or girls? at The FARANG Speaks 2 Much]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 09:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] sums it up well here: My silent protest is also against the impotency of the global corporations that kowtows to China [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sums it up well here: My silent protest is also against the impotency of the global corporations that kowtows to China [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Su</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/13/for-nbc-others-an-olympian-online-bonanza/#comment-143933</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean Su]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 05:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[China has recently deployed 150 of its latest ballistic missiles at Taiwan, adding to a total that tops 1,400 ballistics, just weeks before the games.

2 Japanese journalists were beaten a week before the games.

4-5 months ago, there was a bloody crackdown in Tibet.

It&#039;s pretty obvious that the Chinese government doesn&#039;t care and hopes that something shiny will change the minds of the gullible.

Meanwhile at least 4 provinces have the majority without access to potable water, those parents that questioned why only government buildings collapsed during the Sichuan earthquake are getting silenced, human rights has continued its dive, and nothing substantial has improved other than foreign economic investment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China has recently deployed 150 of its latest ballistic missiles at Taiwan, adding to a total that tops 1,400 ballistics, just weeks before the games.</p>
<p>2 Japanese journalists were beaten a week before the games.</p>
<p>4-5 months ago, there was a bloody crackdown in Tibet.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty obvious that the Chinese government doesn&#8217;t care and hopes that something shiny will change the minds of the gullible.</p>
<p>Meanwhile at least 4 provinces have the majority without access to potable water, those parents that questioned why only government buildings collapsed during the Sichuan earthquake are getting silenced, human rights has continued its dive, and nothing substantial has improved other than foreign economic investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Libran Lover</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/13/for-nbc-others-an-olympian-online-bonanza/#comment-143932</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Libran Lover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[H &amp; H,

Tibet is no more a province of China than Taiwan is.

Cheers,

LL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H &amp; H,</p>
<p>Tibet is no more a province of China than Taiwan is.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>LL</p>
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		<title>By: History and Humilty</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/13/for-nbc-others-an-olympian-online-bonanza/#comment-143931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[History and Humilty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

The problem with the above view is that it is so often based on ignorant self-righteousness (and moral superiority of ones own country) that mostly ignores the reality and practicality, and the complexity of the political, let alone modern, world.


When I was a child I learnt a rule concerning manners, also known as the country-side rule, it went something like this: live by the rules of where you are, not how you&#039;d act in your own environment.

The great thing about the Internet and satellite television is that it allows us to compare and contrast, see the wider world, have access to plural thought, presentation, information and where they don&#039;t occur.  This also means access is gained to american media, and a realisation of how little enlightenment occurs.


I wonder, of those who are getting so easily judgmental about a province of china that has got a lot of foreign support based on a charismatic leader and ignorance about the local culture and span of sovereign history, feel about the area of china where muslims are equally repressed and there have been bombing in retribution, or how about the various oil companies that operate and get their oil from other repressed areas of the world, or break environmental regulations, or the well of ills that is Israel (where most in the west,  as on most subjects, live in complete ignorance of the details and strategy).


If you want to get a handle on the world, this wouldn&#039;t be the worst place to start:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljbI-363A2Q



If you want to get along in the world, you need to decide what your morals are going to be and actually live by the reality rather than the myth, which the self-righteous seem to especially like believing in, and not be a hypocrite, be fair;  which means if you&#039;re going to do any more than the superficial and comfortableness of avoiding watching some sport in a country many miles away on a TV, you could start by needing to leave america.



Kind regards,


History and Humility]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>The problem with the above view is that it is so often based on ignorant self-righteousness (and moral superiority of ones own country) that mostly ignores the reality and practicality, and the complexity of the political, let alone modern, world.</p>
<p>When I was a child I learnt a rule concerning manners, also known as the country-side rule, it went something like this: live by the rules of where you are, not how you&#8217;d act in your own environment.</p>
<p>The great thing about the Internet and satellite television is that it allows us to compare and contrast, see the wider world, have access to plural thought, presentation, information and where they don&#8217;t occur.  This also means access is gained to american media, and a realisation of how little enlightenment occurs.</p>
<p>I wonder, of those who are getting so easily judgmental about a province of china that has got a lot of foreign support based on a charismatic leader and ignorance about the local culture and span of sovereign history, feel about the area of china where muslims are equally repressed and there have been bombing in retribution, or how about the various oil companies that operate and get their oil from other repressed areas of the world, or break environmental regulations, or the well of ills that is Israel (where most in the west,  as on most subjects, live in complete ignorance of the details and strategy).</p>
<p>If you want to get a handle on the world, this wouldn&#8217;t be the worst place to start:   <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljbI-363A2Q" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljbI-363A2Q</a></p>
<p>If you want to get along in the world, you need to decide what your morals are going to be and actually live by the reality rather than the myth, which the self-righteous seem to especially like believing in, and not be a hypocrite, be fair;  which means if you&#8217;re going to do any more than the superficial and comfortableness of avoiding watching some sport in a country many miles away on a TV, you could start by needing to leave america.</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>History and Humility</p>
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		<title>By: Himanshu</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/13/for-nbc-others-an-olympian-online-bonanza/#comment-143930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Himanshu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The opening ceremony was just marvlous and anyone who can&#039;t see that is either lying or just can&#039;t stand the progress of that country.
You got to give it to the country afterall they are still a developing country and to achive  something like this was an achievement which is no less than China&#039;s equivalent of &lt;a href=&quot;http://smart-desi.blogspot.com/2008/08/chinas-moon-landing.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;landing on moon&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The opening ceremony was just marvlous and anyone who can&#8217;t see that is either lying or just can&#8217;t stand the progress of that country.<br />
You got to give it to the country afterall they are still a developing country and to achive  something like this was an achievement which is no less than China&#8217;s equivalent of <a href="http://smart-desi.blogspot.com/2008/08/chinas-moon-landing.html" rel="nofollow">landing on moon</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: HMG</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/13/for-nbc-others-an-olympian-online-bonanza/#comment-143929</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HMG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It it unbelievable what China can get away with - Tibet, controlling content on Google and Yahoo search results, censoring information about the girl that mimed in the opening ceremony and now YouTube also. I can understand that media is biased but never thought would see such open and bold censorship.

I would not be surprised if the IOC is hesitant to give China another chance to host the Olympics in the future.

For my part, I am watching the Olympics but trying to minimize my use of Made in China items.....which is very difficult, especially with kids.

It is absolutely sad that some readers here are making this an India vs. China episode.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It it unbelievable what China can get away with &#8211; Tibet, controlling content on Google and Yahoo search results, censoring information about the girl that mimed in the opening ceremony and now YouTube also. I can understand that media is biased but never thought would see such open and bold censorship.</p>
<p>I would not be surprised if the IOC is hesitant to give China another chance to host the Olympics in the future.</p>
<p>For my part, I am watching the Olympics but trying to minimize my use of Made in China items&#8230;..which is very difficult, especially with kids.</p>
<p>It is absolutely sad that some readers here are making this an India vs. China episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Impatient</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/13/for-nbc-others-an-olympian-online-bonanza/#comment-143928</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Impatient]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not true on Tibet. There were plenty of people who cared about Tibet before the Games, but the torch relay became a venue for calling attention to it. Sometimes that&#039;s the main thing a movement needs: a venue.

I think the corporate kowtow to China is disgusting. The opening ceremonies in particular were 3 hours of spare-no-expense government propaganda, and NBC never once recognized it.

On the other hand, I also believe that the surest way to peace between two countries is open trade relations. When nations have an economic interest in getting along, somehow they manage to do so. So I am of two minds on this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true on Tibet. There were plenty of people who cared about Tibet before the Games, but the torch relay became a venue for calling attention to it. Sometimes that&#8217;s the main thing a movement needs: a venue.</p>
<p>I think the corporate kowtow to China is disgusting. The opening ceremonies in particular were 3 hours of spare-no-expense government propaganda, and NBC never once recognized it.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I also believe that the surest way to peace between two countries is open trade relations. When nations have an economic interest in getting along, somehow they manage to do so. So I am of two minds on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Svetlana Gladkova</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/13/for-nbc-others-an-olympian-online-bonanza/#comment-143927</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Svetlana Gladkova]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Om, unfortunately the ideals of peace in the world at least for the Olympics time have long gone and it is way too often that the Games are used to attract attention to the problems that exist anyway. Did China treat Tibet in any better way before the Games? Honestly, I don&#039;t think so, but no one cared until China has become the host for the Olympic Games.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om, unfortunately the ideals of peace in the world at least for the Olympics time have long gone and it is way too often that the Games are used to attract attention to the problems that exist anyway. Did China treat Tibet in any better way before the Games? Honestly, I don&#8217;t think so, but no one cared until China has become the host for the Olympic Games.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/13/for-nbc-others-an-olympian-online-bonanza/#comment-143926</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@an reader

This is not about India and China. Actually, the fact that you would think that is, speaks a lot about you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@an reader</p>
<p>This is not about India and China. Actually, the fact that you would think that is, speaks a lot about you.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/13/for-nbc-others-an-olympian-online-bonanza/#comment-143925</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Om Malik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 04:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Milton  actually I was too young and living in India at the time. so probably the only time i saw Olympics was in the local news paper and that too barely. But point taken.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Milton  actually I was too young and living in India at the time. so probably the only time i saw Olympics was in the local news paper and that too barely. But point taken.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyler</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/13/for-nbc-others-an-olympian-online-bonanza/#comment-143924</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 03:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good call on the silent protest. I think a lot of people are fairly upset with the current Olympics charade. The IOC and corporate sponsors have done a lot to kowtow to and appease the Chinese government. A common refrain has been they want to avoid making China &quot;lose face.&quot; But a simple threat of face loss is probably the only thing that would have precipitated any real change in China. Since none of the official sponsors stood up for western values the situation is now worse in China than it was a few years ago. Watching the Olympics would make me feel like I went along with all this and it&#039;s okay. I think it&#039;s not okay.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good call on the silent protest. I think a lot of people are fairly upset with the current Olympics charade. The IOC and corporate sponsors have done a lot to kowtow to and appease the Chinese government. A common refrain has been they want to avoid making China &#8220;lose face.&#8221; But a simple threat of face loss is probably the only thing that would have precipitated any real change in China. Since none of the official sponsors stood up for western values the situation is now worse in China than it was a few years ago. Watching the Olympics would make me feel like I went along with all this and it&#8217;s okay. I think it&#8217;s not okay.</p>
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		<title>By: jake</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/13/for-nbc-others-an-olympian-online-bonanza/#comment-143923</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 02:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you read this article out loud before you hit publish?

&quot;special Olympics-oriented sites&quot;

I&#039;m thinking that &quot;niche&quot; would have worked better there. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you read this article out loud before you hit publish?</p>
<p>&#8220;special Olympics-oriented sites&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking that &#8220;niche&#8221; would have worked better there. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Stamoulis</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/13/for-nbc-others-an-olympian-online-bonanza/#comment-143922</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick Stamoulis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are definitely not surprised by this and we definitely agree with your sentiments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are definitely not surprised by this and we definitely agree with your sentiments.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Parsons</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/08/13/for-nbc-others-an-olympian-online-bonanza/#comment-143921</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Parsons]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The modern games (and the IOC) are more focused on &#039;monetizing attention&#039; than authentically promoting the values dignitaries preach from podiums (at opening/closing ceremonies). At the end of the day the Olympics are literally and figuratively just about the &quot;gold&quot;.

Sure global corporations appear to be kowtowing to China in search of a piece of the economic action but a bigger issue looms. With US government surveillance of it&#039;s own citizens at an all time high and China holding record levels of US debt there&#039;s a disturbing kind of &#039;harmonization&#039; underway between the two countries [more specifically, their respective governments] and the stakes, particularly for Americans, are incredibly high.

Let the games begin...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The modern games (and the IOC) are more focused on &#8216;monetizing attention&#8217; than authentically promoting the values dignitaries preach from podiums (at opening/closing ceremonies). At the end of the day the Olympics are literally and figuratively just about the &#8220;gold&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sure global corporations appear to be kowtowing to China in search of a piece of the economic action but a bigger issue looms. With US government surveillance of it&#8217;s own citizens at an all time high and China holding record levels of US debt there&#8217;s a disturbing kind of &#8216;harmonization&#8217; underway between the two countries [more specifically, their respective governments] and the stakes, particularly for Americans, are incredibly high.</p>
<p>Let the games begin&#8230;</p>
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