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	<title>Comments on: The Economic Gist Via Craigslist</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Howard Larkin</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-893176</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Larkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have Two Recombunt tricycle  with Hub motors $2.500,00 eacg</description>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-893022</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being a yard saler I can tell you that the amount of pure junk people are trying to sale has increased. I find mostly old clothes and kitchen ware now as opposed to useful stuff I used to buy and sale on ebay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being a yard saler I can tell you that the amount of pure junk people are trying to sale has increased. I find mostly old clothes and kitchen ware now as opposed to useful stuff I used to buy and sale on ebay.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance Irby</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-892361</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance Irby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Fun graphs, but neither one of them is normalized to account for overall growth in Craigslist use. To take a simple example:

Compete reports that the number of CL visits more than doubled from (eyeballing this) about 7M in 12/07 (they don’t have earlier data) to 15.3M in 06/08; ~120% growth. During the same period, your “For Sale” listings appear to rise from about 1.1M to about 1.8M, or 64%. That suggests that the number of For Sale listings per user is actually declining.

However, the garage sale graph shape notably does not mirror the overall CL visits graph shape, so it would no doubt remain interesting even after it had been normalized for regular traffic growth.

Of course, there are all kinds of other biases here that don’t show up in these very high-level analyses, such as total and average dollar value of the items sold, regional variations (do areas with more distressed residential real estate have more sales?), changes in the mix of products offered, and so on. CL has all this data; it would be interesting if they made it available for crunching" (Adam).

Lance says:
Good post and good feedback Adam.  Do you have any other  "shotgun" visual indicators of the economy speeding its retraction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fun graphs, but neither one of them is normalized to account for overall growth in Craigslist use. To take a simple example:</p>
<p>Compete reports that the number of CL visits more than doubled from (eyeballing this) about 7M in 12/07 (they don’t have earlier data) to 15.3M in 06/08; ~120% growth. During the same period, your “For Sale” listings appear to rise from about 1.1M to about 1.8M, or 64%. That suggests that the number of For Sale listings per user is actually declining.</p>
<p>However, the garage sale graph shape notably does not mirror the overall CL visits graph shape, so it would no doubt remain interesting even after it had been normalized for regular traffic growth.</p>
<p>Of course, there are all kinds of other biases here that don’t show up in these very high-level analyses, such as total and average dollar value of the items sold, regional variations (do areas with more distressed residential real estate have more sales?), changes in the mix of products offered, and so on. CL has all this data; it would be interesting if they made it available for crunching&#8221; (Adam).</p>
<p>Lance says:<br />
Good post and good feedback Adam.  Do you have any other  &#8220;shotgun&#8221; visual indicators of the economy speeding its retraction?</p>
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		<title>By: margie  duffy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-892270</link>
		<dc:creator>margie  duffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want to sell 1970's stereo, great cabinet,in great shape, plays 45,78</description>
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		<title>By: Noticias GL &#187; Crisis y negocios contracíclicos</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-891559</link>
		<dc:creator>Noticias GL &#187; Crisis y negocios contracíclicos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] entrada en GigaOM, &#8220;The economic gist via Craigslist&#8220;, en la que se muestran el número de entradas etiquetadas como &#8220;garage sale&#8221; en [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Economics, Craigslist, and StudyBob &#171; Studybob: the Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-890846</link>
		<dc:creator>Economics, Craigslist, and StudyBob &#171; Studybob: the Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 15:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Craigslist, and&#160;StudyBob  Using Craigslist as an economic bellwether is a pretty cool [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sunday links: cash for clunkers &#171; Abnormal Returns</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-890729</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunday links: cash for clunkers &#171; Abnormal Returns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A sign of the (economic) times.  Garage sale listings are rising on craigslist.org.  (GigaOm.com) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is eBay Oil to Retailâ€™s Water Amid Pressures of Recession? &#124; TooCube</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-890724</link>
		<dc:creator>Is eBay Oil to Retailâ€™s Water Amid Pressures of Recession? &#124; TooCube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the answer lies partly in the numerical growth trend on Craigslist as seen over the last 12 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is eBay Oil to Retail’s Water Amid Pressures of Recession? &#160;&#187;TechAddress</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-890719</link>
		<dc:creator>Is eBay Oil to Retail’s Water Amid Pressures of Recession? &#160;&#187;TechAddress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the answer lies partly in the numerical growth trend on Craigslist as seen over the last 12 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Is eBay Oil to Retail's Water Amid Recessionary Pressures?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-890714</link>
		<dc:creator>Is eBay Oil to Retail's Water Amid Recessionary Pressures?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the answer lies partly in the numerical growth trend on Craigslist as seen over the last 12 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Greg Glockner</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-890647</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Glockner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 05:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the same initial thought: you don't account for the growth in Craigslist postings.  Are there more garage sales or just more people going online to publicize their garage sales?  One way to check the posting traffic on Craigslist would be to determine the growth in other, nonfinancial parts of Craigslist.  For instance, is there a rise in posts looking for someone to date?  (This should be adjusted for population size).  Once you can determine the overall growth in Craigslist posts, then you can determine how much of the growth in garage sale posts is due to a change in the economy.

Methodology aside, it's a good question.  And the online commerce and publicity outlets (ebay, Amazon, craigslist) could become a valuable source of information on the economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same initial thought: you don&#8217;t account for the growth in Craigslist postings.  Are there more garage sales or just more people going online to publicize their garage sales?  One way to check the posting traffic on Craigslist would be to determine the growth in other, nonfinancial parts of Craigslist.  For instance, is there a rise in posts looking for someone to date?  (This should be adjusted for population size).  Once you can determine the overall growth in Craigslist posts, then you can determine how much of the growth in garage sale posts is due to a change in the economy.</p>
<p>Methodology aside, it&#8217;s a good question.  And the online commerce and publicity outlets (ebay, Amazon, craigslist) could become a valuable source of information on the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-890632</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first commenter is correct.  Craigslist is still relatively unknown to a large part of the population.  

Not to make any generalizations, but it's possible that the people that are later to become aware of Craigslist are less technically inclined and more likely to have yard sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first commenter is correct.  Craigslist is still relatively unknown to a large part of the population.  </p>
<p>Not to make any generalizations, but it&#8217;s possible that the people that are later to become aware of Craigslist are less technically inclined and more likely to have yard sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Grumet&#8217;s Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Craigslist as economic indicator</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-890601</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Grumet&#8217;s Weblog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Craigslist as economic indicator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] GigaOM&#8217;s Chris Albrecht did some research suggesting that as the economy goes down, Craigslist activity goes up. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: gregorylent</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-890579</link>
		<dc:creator>gregorylent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is great news, way too much crap in the world</description>
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		<title>By: Crisis y negocios contracíclicos &#187; El Blog de Enrique Dans</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-890570</link>
		<dc:creator>Crisis y negocios contracíclicos &#187; El Blog de Enrique Dans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 08:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] entrada en GigaOM, &#8220;The economic gist via Craigslist&#8220;, en la que se muestran el número de entradas etiquetadas como &#8220;garage sale&#8221; en [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/25/the-economic-gist-via-craigslist/#comment-890548</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 04:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But simply normalizing to factor out Craiglist's overall growth would hide more information than it reveals. Hitwise's numbers (URL below) indicate that in the U.S. Craiglist's usage is growing much faster than the rest of the Internet -- rising from the 39th most visited site in March 07, to 23rd most visited site in March 08, in the U.S. For a long established site in a mature Internet market, that growth is remarkable. Chris' hypothesis that more people are turning to Craiglist as the economy stagnates and foreclosures climb seems pretty logical. Of course, one would have to properly survey the Craigslist users to be sure. But economists routinely make much flimsier logical leaps:

http://weblogs.hitwise.com/us-heather-hopkins/2008/03/craigslist_traffic_nearly_doub.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But simply normalizing to factor out Craiglist&#8217;s overall growth would hide more information than it reveals. Hitwise&#8217;s numbers (URL below) indicate that in the U.S. Craiglist&#8217;s usage is growing much faster than the rest of the Internet &#8212; rising from the 39th most visited site in March 07, to 23rd most visited site in March 08, in the U.S. For a long established site in a mature Internet market, that growth is remarkable. Chris&#8217; hypothesis that more people are turning to Craiglist as the economy stagnates and foreclosures climb seems pretty logical. Of course, one would have to properly survey the Craigslist users to be sure. But economists routinely make much flimsier logical leaps:</p>
<p> (<a href="http://weblogs.hitwise.com/us-heather-hopkins/2008/03/craigslist_traffic_nearly_doub.html" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
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