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		<title>By: Ideal &#187; Archive du blog &#187; Rétrospectives sur mes prédictions 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ideal &#187; Archive du blog &#187; Rétrospectives sur mes prédictions 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lancée en juillet 2008, l&#8217; App Store est une véritable machine de guerre qui génère des millions de $ de bénéfices, à tel point que l&#8217;iPhone est maintenant plus vu comme une console portable que comme un smartphone (cf.  Is iPhone The New Gaming Platform?). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lancée en juillet 2008, l&#8217; App Store est une véritable machine de guerre qui génère des millions de $ de bénéfices, à tel point que l&#8217;iPhone est maintenant plus vu comme une console portable que comme un smartphone (cf.  Is iPhone The New Gaming Platform?). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rétrospectives sur mes prédictions pour l&#8217;année 2008 &#124; FredCavazza.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rétrospectives sur mes prédictions pour l&#8217;année 2008 &#124; FredCavazza.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lancée en juillet 2008, l&#8217; App Store est une véritable machine de guerre qui génère des millions de $ de bénéfices, à tel point que l&#8217;iPhone est maintenant plus vu comme une console portable que comme un smartphone (cf.  Is iPhone The New Gaming Platform?). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lancée en juillet 2008, l&#8217; App Store est une véritable machine de guerre qui génère des millions de $ de bénéfices, à tel point que l&#8217;iPhone est maintenant plus vu comme une console portable que comme un smartphone (cf.  Is iPhone The New Gaming Platform?). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone App Downloads Are Up. What About Their Usage? - GigaOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>iPhone App Downloads Are Up. What About Their Usage? - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] app: Sega Corp&#8217;s $9.99 Super Monkeyball game that sold more than 300,000 copies in 20 days. (iPhone as a gaming platform isn&#8217;t such a crazy idea after [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Ottermanempire.com &#187; Will the iPhone kill anything other than common sense?</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ottermanempire.com &#187; Will the iPhone kill anything other than common sense?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] proximity that&#160; suggested that iPhone isn’t just a neat phone but it’s also the future of handheld gaming and the death of terrestrial [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Did you miss these virtual world news stories last week? : iViNNiE Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/07/21/is-iphone-the-new-gaming-platform/#comment-890816</link>
		<dc:creator>Did you miss these virtual world news stories last week? : iViNNiE Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Virtual Paris 2007 &#187; Mes liens du 21 juillet 2008 au 22 juillet 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virtual Paris 2007 &#187; Mes liens du 21 juillet 2008 au 22 juillet 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 16:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it has a chance of meeting the hype within the phone realm for game sales  but  I can't see it reaching anything near the  20 million sales of the DS (US since launch).  Why?  I'm not sure 12 year olds and iPhones are exactly  in competition nor will they want to pay up for another  rush back the 8 bit console age to play the "latest" thing that's their parents grew up with. Every two months the subscription to the iPhone would pay for a new DS or several games to keep one going. Then there's the power issues  which alone should kill off the Iphone as a serious flight/ road trip candidate. ( sans a mess of adapters) 

Really seems like a case of comparing Apples to ... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it has a chance of meeting the hype within the phone realm for game sales  but  I can&#8217;t see it reaching anything near the  20 million sales of the DS (US since launch).  Why?  I&#8217;m not sure 12 year olds and iPhones are exactly  in competition nor will they want to pay up for another  rush back the 8 bit console age to play the &#8220;latest&#8221; thing that&#8217;s their parents grew up with. Every two months the subscription to the iPhone would pay for a new DS or several games to keep one going. Then there&#8217;s the power issues  which alone should kill off the Iphone as a serious flight/ road trip candidate. ( sans a mess of adapters) </p>
<p>Really seems like a case of comparing Apples to &#8230; :)</p>
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		<title>By: Of course the iPhone is a gaming platform and a computing one, too.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Of course the iPhone is a gaming platform and a computing one, too.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (sorry one more iPhone post then I&#8217;ll stop for a bit) Om wondered if the iPhone was the new gaming platform and Duncan knows it is. Of course it is! It was obvious as soon as they showed Super Monkey Ball [...]</description>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not impressed by the games I have seen now.</description>
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		<title>By: Top virtual world news today on iVinnie : iViNNiE Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Top virtual world news today on iVinnie : iViNNiE Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 10:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where Apple have been smart is in how people can buy games. Mobile games to date have been most successful on platforms like BREW where it's easy to buy and install a game. On Java, it's a pain, and on Symbian it usually involves downloading to a PC first. Both put off buyers and lead to unfinished transactions. Because it's so easy to get games for the iPhone and because development is a breeze compared to other platforms, I can see a lot of games appearing. Whether it's good business or not is another matter. 

Even though the iPhone ships in millions, it's still small beer compared to the billion other handsets that ship each year, so will it provide a big enough ecosystem for many players? It's pretty tough making money from mobile games, so although the hit rate is good at the moment on the iPhone, is this just new device euphoria where people buy a new game to go with their phone, or will it maintain momentum and provide a fertile enough ground for the bug guys to get a decent return?

Also, the price you can charge for a game depends on the public perception of the platform. The iPhone is a phone, so people don't expect to pay more than a few dollars for a game, or probably expect it to be free. The DS and PSP are dedicated game devices, so gamers expect to pay a lot more. So, whilst we might see a ton of games arriving and being installed, whether that equates to a longer term good platform for monetizing game IP is another matter.

The big impact as far as I can see is that other manufacturers will start to include 3D in higher end phones more often. As a longer terms speculation, we might even see ARM, who supply the processor design, will emulate what Intel did on the PC and just bundle in graphics, making it a commodity, not a special feature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where Apple have been smart is in how people can buy games. Mobile games to date have been most successful on platforms like BREW where it&#8217;s easy to buy and install a game. On Java, it&#8217;s a pain, and on Symbian it usually involves downloading to a PC first. Both put off buyers and lead to unfinished transactions. Because it&#8217;s so easy to get games for the iPhone and because development is a breeze compared to other platforms, I can see a lot of games appearing. Whether it&#8217;s good business or not is another matter. </p>
<p>Even though the iPhone ships in millions, it&#8217;s still small beer compared to the billion other handsets that ship each year, so will it provide a big enough ecosystem for many players? It&#8217;s pretty tough making money from mobile games, so although the hit rate is good at the moment on the iPhone, is this just new device euphoria where people buy a new game to go with their phone, or will it maintain momentum and provide a fertile enough ground for the bug guys to get a decent return?</p>
<p>Also, the price you can charge for a game depends on the public perception of the platform. The iPhone is a phone, so people don&#8217;t expect to pay more than a few dollars for a game, or probably expect it to be free. The DS and PSP are dedicated game devices, so gamers expect to pay a lot more. So, whilst we might see a ton of games arriving and being installed, whether that equates to a longer term good platform for monetizing game IP is another matter.</p>
<p>The big impact as far as I can see is that other manufacturers will start to include 3D in higher end phones more often. As a longer terms speculation, we might even see ARM, who supply the processor design, will emulate what Intel did on the PC and just bundle in graphics, making it a commodity, not a special feature.</p>
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		<title>By: Is iPhone the New Gaming Platform? &#124; Om Malik &#124; Voices &#124; AllThingsD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is iPhone the New Gaming Platform? &#124; Om Malik &#124; Voices &#124; AllThingsD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read the rest of this post    Print  all_things_di220:http://voices.allthingsd.com/20080722/om-8/  Sphere Comment  Tagged: App Store, Apple, GigaOm, Om Malik, Voices, iPhone &#124; permalink [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The new iPhone IS a gaming platform</title>
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		<dc:creator>The new iPhone IS a gaming platform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Malik over on GigaOM asked the same question this morning, and noted figures from Cellufun that iPhone users are playing games at a rate four times that of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Simon Newstead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Newstead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>iPhone is a great platform for a certain type of casual game, but to say that it will kill the DS seems a bit of a stretch.  

Without a stylus, control buttons, voice activation there are a lot of games that would be much harder to do well.. eg- Nintendogs, Brain Training, Ninja Gaiden.

@Dan, I tried a couple of FPS on the first gen jail-broken iPhone and found them near impossible to control. As a proof of concept great, but as a workable game..not really. Any new ones that have managed to solve this problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iPhone is a great platform for a certain type of casual game, but to say that it will kill the DS seems a bit of a stretch.  </p>
<p>Without a stylus, control buttons, voice activation there are a lot of games that would be much harder to do well.. eg- Nintendogs, Brain Training, Ninja Gaiden.</p>
<p>@Dan, I tried a couple of FPS on the first gen jail-broken iPhone and found them near impossible to control. As a proof of concept great, but as a workable game..not really. Any new ones that have managed to solve this problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Templin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Templin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ben; The iPhone is hardly limited to accelerometer only games, that's just what most of the games made so far are utlitizing, much like Wii games tend to utilize the motion sensors over the normal buttons-only approach. It can be very much the same with the DS... and as far as precision goes, the accelerometer is actually quite responsive in the games i've played. Another thing going for Apple is the fact the iPhone has a rumble pak basically, which could make for soem awesome FPS games.

@michaelportent; It's possible that the game development might not be relegated to casual gamers. I'm curious to see how Bioshock works out, that might end up being what helps to decide how feasible the iPhone is for serious gaming. What people are failing to factor in is that the SDK is free, making it quite a bit easier to obtain than the dev kits for the other two handhelds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ben; The iPhone is hardly limited to accelerometer only games, that&#8217;s just what most of the games made so far are utlitizing, much like Wii games tend to utilize the motion sensors over the normal buttons-only approach. It can be very much the same with the DS&#8230; and as far as precision goes, the accelerometer is actually quite responsive in the games i&#8217;ve played. Another thing going for Apple is the fact the iPhone has a rumble pak basically, which could make for soem awesome FPS games.</p>
<p>@michaelportent; It&#8217;s possible that the game development might not be relegated to casual gamers. I&#8217;m curious to see how Bioshock works out, that might end up being what helps to decide how feasible the iPhone is for serious gaming. What people are failing to factor in is that the SDK is free, making it quite a bit easier to obtain than the dev kits for the other two handhelds.</p>
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		<dc:creator>CISNKY &#187; links for 2008-07-22</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Is iPhone The New Gaming Platform? The simple answer is no. The iPhone is good for puzzle/cards based games, but lacks the basic controls for your hardcore gamer. I bought Ms Pacman and the swipe novelty has already warn off. (tags: iphone gaming) [...]</description>
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