Comments on: Inside the Cloud: 9 Sectors to Watch http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:25:55 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: andy.edmonds.be › links for 2009-02-22 http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-928455 andy.edmonds.be › links for 2009-02-22 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 00:33:50 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-928455 <p>[...] Inside the Cloud: 9 Sectors to Watch (tags: cloud cloudcomputing services watch) [...]</p> [...] Inside the Cloud: 9 Sectors to Watch (tags: cloud cloudcomputing services watch) [...]

]]> By: HP Not So Sure About EC2 http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-928215 HP Not So Sure About EC2 Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:21:51 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-928215 <p>[...] Someone should tell Amazon, as EC2 is one of the IaaS providers given as an example of services whose costs will still increase with demand, meaning they can’t deliver the service profitably. I’m pretty sure others will have another opinion on this, seeing value in offering different layers of the cloud. [...]</p> [...] Someone should tell Amazon, as EC2 is one of the IaaS providers given as an example of services whose costs will still increase with demand, meaning they can’t deliver the service profitably. I’m pretty sure others will have another opinion on this, seeing value in offering different layers of the cloud. [...]

]]> By: Understanding Cloud Computing 101 | Aleyda Solis Blog | Web Enthusiast, Developer and Promoter http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-907894 Understanding Cloud Computing 101 | Aleyda Solis Blog | Web Enthusiast, Developer and Promoter Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:04:44 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-907894 <p>[...] Inside the Cloud: 9 Sectors to Watch [...]</p> [...] Inside the Cloud: 9 Sectors to Watch [...]

]]> By: ophirk http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-894277 ophirk Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:17:27 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-894277 <p>I'm not sure that "stack based clouds" and "Cloud-based development platforms" are two separate categories. I imagine that writing on google apps one has access to a great set of Google API's and not just writing Python code. In this sense it is similar to Force.Com where one can write Java applications and gain access to SalesForce API's.</p> <p>Its true that salesforce has much richer Data driven model, but google is picking up and will probably buy salesforce soon :)</p> I’m not sure that “stack based clouds” and “Cloud-based development platforms” are two separate categories. I imagine that writing on google apps one has access to a great set of Google API’s and not just writing Python code. In this sense it is similar to Force.Com where one can write Java applications and gain access to SalesForce API’s.

Its true that salesforce has much richer Data driven model, but google is picking up and will probably buy salesforce soon :)

]]> By: What is the cloud? | Ben Cherian's blog http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-893046 What is the cloud? | Ben Cherian's blog Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:23:52 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-893046 <p>[...] resource is Alistair Croll’s GigaOm article where he divides the cloud space. If you want a more in-depth resource, Reuven Cohen, a smart Canadian bloke and one of the best [...]</p> [...] resource is Alistair Croll’s GigaOm article where he divides the cloud space. If you want a more in-depth resource, Reuven Cohen, a smart Canadian bloke and one of the best [...]

]]> By: Tom Lounibos http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-891115 Tom Lounibos Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:40:00 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-891115 <p>Alistar, Good Stuff!</p> <p>For those companies that may be looking for more then just a Test "SandBox".....they might be interested in a recent test done in the Cloud using SOASTA CloudTest Test Solution. Qtrax, a Free Music Download Service provider, was able see what would happen to there application and network if 100,000 simultaneous users hit there site....The Cloud provided about (125) servers for a few hours of testing at a very affordable price.</p> Alistar, Good Stuff!

For those companies that may be looking for more then just a Test “SandBox”…..they might be interested in a recent test done in the Cloud using SOASTA CloudTest Test Solution. Qtrax, a Free Music Download Service provider, was able see what would happen to there application and network if 100,000 simultaneous users hit there site….The Cloud provided about (125) servers for a few hours of testing at a very affordable price.

]]> By: VCs Have Their Heads in the Clouds - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-890397 VCs Have Their Heads in the Clouds - GigaOM Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:43:25 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-890397 <p>[...] services are generally referred to as cloud computing, and the game-changing potential of those services has venture firms sitting up and taking notice. Indeed, after spending the past [...]</p> [...] services are generally referred to as cloud computing, and the game-changing potential of those services has venture firms sitting up and taking notice. Indeed, after spending the past [...]

]]> By: Naresh Sehgal http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-889972 Naresh Sehgal Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:38:30 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-889972 <p>Bert, another question is how do such massive number of servers in a single data-center get managed, in terms of monitoring, alerts, error resolution etc.</p> <p>thanks,</p> <p>naresh</p> Bert, another question is how do such massive number of servers in a single data-center get managed, in terms of monitoring, alerts, error resolution etc.

thanks,

naresh

]]> By: Alistair Croll Defines 9 Cloud Computing Sectors http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-889757 Alistair Croll Defines 9 Cloud Computing Sectors Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:28:37 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-889757 <p>[...] Croll recently posted an excellent writeup on Gigaom that attempts to segment our somewhat noisy market into 9 vendor sectors that IMHO many prospective [...]</p> [...] Croll recently posted an excellent writeup on Gigaom that attempts to segment our somewhat noisy market into 9 vendor sectors that IMHO many prospective [...]

]]> By: Bert Armijo http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-889755 Bert Armijo Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:58:20 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-889755 <p>Naresh,</p> <p>You've raised a good point. These efforts are just beginning and will take some time, as at the moment folks have a tough enough time just defining cloud computing. However, yes a few of us have committed ourselves to working on open standards.</p> <p>Bert Armijo 3tera</p> Naresh,

You’ve raised a good point. These efforts are just beginning and will take some time, as at the moment folks have a tough enough time just defining cloud computing. However, yes a few of us have committed ourselves to working on open standards.

Bert Armijo 3tera

]]> By: Naresh Sehgal http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-889736 Naresh Sehgal Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:50:04 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-889736 <p>These are excellent trends to know of, a couple of observations:</p> <p>1) Current cloud operators tend to lock in their customers, is any industry group working to standardize data-representation and APIs for applications?</p> <p>2) Internet reliability is an issue, before SMB customers especially in emerging markets will move their critical business apps and data to cloud. One solution is to have a local copy that is remotely updated/managed from the cloud.</p> <p>thanks,</p> <p>naresh</p> These are excellent trends to know of, a couple of observations:

1) Current cloud operators tend to lock in their customers, is any industry group working to standardize data-representation and APIs for applications?

2) Internet reliability is an issue, before SMB customers especially in emerging markets will move their critical business apps and data to cloud. One solution is to have a local copy that is remotely updated/managed from the cloud.

thanks,

naresh

]]> By: Jengates Blog » Blog Archive » links for 2008-07-21 http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-889677 Jengates Blog » Blog Archive » links for 2008-07-21 Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:30:58 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-889677 <p>[...] Inside the Cloud: 9 Sectors to Watch - GigaOM [...]</p> [...] Inside the Cloud: 9 Sectors to Watch – GigaOM [...]

]]> By: alphadog http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-889653 alphadog Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:32:32 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-889653 <p>There's a lot more to watch: http://saaslink.googlepages.com/SaaSMap_LairdDickson_May08.png</p> <p>Also, I'd add other I have heard of: Mosso Mor.ph</p> <p>This is a burgeoning area. Tracking it is a nightmare right now.</p> There’s a lot more to watch: http://saaslink.googlepages.com/SaaSMap_LairdDickson_May08.png

Also, I’d add other I have heard of: Mosso Mor.ph

This is a burgeoning area. Tracking it is a nightmare right now.

]]> By: Geva Perry http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-889650 Geva Perry Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:30:34 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-889650 <p>Alistair - I really like that you named GigaSpaces' category "Scalability Frameworks". You hit the nail on the head. Cloud providers, such as Amazon, Flexiscale, GoGrid and others provide the basic infrastructure to scale applications on-demand, which is great. But for a wide range of applications there is still a gap of how to make the application itself scale on-demand on this infrastructure. It doesn't work with traditional middleware and platforms. As more companies get on the cloud this issue will grow in importance.</p> <p>I also think the comment on billing and payments is a good one. We're facing some challenges in that area with our cloud offering. One interesting start-up in this category is Zuora (http://www.zuora.com).</p> <p>Geva Perry GigaSpaces</p> Alistair – I really like that you named GigaSpaces’ category “Scalability Frameworks”. You hit the nail on the head. Cloud providers, such as Amazon, Flexiscale, GoGrid and others provide the basic infrastructure to scale applications on-demand, which is great. But for a wide range of applications there is still a gap of how to make the application itself scale on-demand on this infrastructure. It doesn’t work with traditional middleware and platforms. As more companies get on the cloud this issue will grow in importance.

I also think the comment on billing and payments is a good one. We’re facing some challenges in that area with our cloud offering. One interesting start-up in this category is Zuora (http://www.zuora.com).

Geva Perry GigaSpaces

]]> By: Alistair Croll http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-889622 Alistair Croll Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:49:21 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-889622 <p>@Ian/Phil - thanks for the clarification. I've always been confused about the Cohesive/Skytap/Flexiscale relationship.</p> <p>@Ranjit - licensing and billing is indeed an important component if clouds are to make money. I'm not sure that it's going to be a motivator for people to embrace the cloud (although comfort with an incumbent licensing model gives folks like Microsoft an advantage.) Kiril Sheynkman of Elastra cited licensing as a major obstacle to cloud adoption.</p> <p>@Sean: Virtual appliances are indeed a way to take chunks of the enterprise and move them into a cloud. One of the things I like about Gigaspaces' model is the ability to spin up new, self-contained components wherever it makes sense, and virtual appliances share this advantage. JumpBox and rpath are definitely interesting players in this sector.</p> <p>When we initially started working on this piece, we were going to point to companies to watch. But as these comments make clear, it's still early days for that. Billing and virtual appliances are certainly two additional sectors worth watching. Thanks for the feedback.</p> @Ian/Phil – thanks for the clarification. I’ve always been confused about the Cohesive/Skytap/Flexiscale relationship.

@Ranjit – licensing and billing is indeed an important component if clouds are to make money. I’m not sure that it’s going to be a motivator for people to embrace the cloud (although comfort with an incumbent licensing model gives folks like Microsoft an advantage.) Kiril Sheynkman of Elastra cited licensing as a major obstacle to cloud adoption.

@Sean: Virtual appliances are indeed a way to take chunks of the enterprise and move them into a cloud. One of the things I like about Gigaspaces’ model is the ability to spin up new, self-contained components wherever it makes sense, and virtual appliances share this advantage. JumpBox and rpath are definitely interesting players in this sector.

When we initially started working on this piece, we were going to point to companies to watch. But as these comments make clear, it’s still early days for that. Billing and virtual appliances are certainly two additional sectors worth watching. Thanks for the feedback.

]]> By: Sean Tierney http://gigaom.com/2008/07/20/9-cloud-computingsectors-to-watch/#comment-889588 Sean Tierney Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:31:07 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14064#comment-889588 <p>Alistair, I might suggest a 10th sector you omitted: Virtual Appliances. Disclaimer- I'm one of the co-founders of JumpBox.</p> <p>You can think of Virtual Appliances as "freeze-dried" applications. They're self-contained virtual computers that come pre-packaged with management tools and a fully-functioning application so that you just turn them on and they work instantly. They run on virtualization and many (including our own as well as rPath VA's) can be deployed into cloud computing services like EC2. This container technology that wraps an application with it's OS and dependencies serves as an important vessel allowing it to run anywhere and making cloud computing relevant for a huge number of people for whom it wouldn't be otherwise.</p> <p>For a deeper understanding of this space see the review that Linux.com published on JumpBox this past Friday-> http://www.linux.com/feature/141391</p> <p>Sean</p> Alistair, I might suggest a 10th sector you omitted: Virtual Appliances. Disclaimer- I’m one of the co-founders of JumpBox.

You can think of Virtual Appliances as “freeze-dried” applications. They’re self-contained virtual computers that come pre-packaged with management tools and a fully-functioning application so that you just turn them on and they work instantly. They run on virtualization and many (including our own as well as rPath VA’s) can be deployed into cloud computing services like EC2. This container technology that wraps an application with it’s OS and dependencies serves as an important vessel allowing it to run anywhere and making cloud computing relevant for a huge number of people for whom it wouldn’t be otherwise.

For a deeper understanding of this space see the review that Linux.com published on JumpBox this past Friday-> http://www.linux.com/feature/141391

Sean

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