Comments on: Can Serendipity Make You Rich? http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/ The Business of Technology Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:40:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: » update market news XXVI» Blog Archive » nugg.ad blog http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-899380 » update market news XXVI» Blog Archive » nugg.ad blog Mon, 15 Sep 2008 07:40:57 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-899380 [...] Can Serendipity Make You Rich? [...] [...] Can Serendipity Make You Rich? [...]

]]> By: Cuil Finally Gets Going - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-890761 Cuil Finally Gets Going - GigaOM Mon, 28 Jul 2008 04:02:27 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-890761 [...] big belief is that “serendipity” is the right way to go as we continue to get immersed (and drowned) in information. From that perspective, Cuil [...] [...] big belief is that “serendipity” is the right way to go as we continue to get immersed (and drowned) in information. From that perspective, Cuil [...]

]]> By: Why online advertising is recession-proof | YieldBuild Blog http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-888689 Why online advertising is recession-proof | YieldBuild Blog Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:13:17 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-888689 [...] Recent research group IDC figures underscore that online is not where content producers will feel the pain. Another survey by Outsell suggests a slowing-down of ad spending overall, but continued growth in online. Advertisers are simply following the traffic. Most of the recent buzz has been around social networks, although even search traffic continues to grow by double-digits year-on-year. [...] [...] Recent research group IDC figures underscore that online is not where content producers will feel the pain. Another survey by Outsell suggests a slowing-down of ad spending overall, but continued growth in online. Advertisers are simply following the traffic. Most of the recent buzz has been around social networks, although even search traffic continues to grow by double-digits year-on-year. [...]

]]> By: Internet Overdose? http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-888676 Internet Overdose? Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:52:52 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-888676 [...] 10.7 billion — up nearly 20 percent from 9.1 billion searches in May 2007 (got this data from GigOm ). In other words, more and more people are relying on the net to do things and the rest of the [...] [...] 10.7 billion — up nearly 20 percent from 9.1 billion searches in May 2007 (got this data from GigOm ). In other words, more and more people are relying on the net to do things and the rest of the [...]

]]> By: Tom http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-888621 Tom Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:12:03 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-888621 Om Excellent piece on the signal to noise issue we face on a daily basis. I have been thinking along similar lines. In a moment of "Serendipity" I created a concept called the Chaos Score. This basically looks at how the inputs (web, rss, apps, devices) have a similar behaviors to our information flow as Metcalf's law regarding the network effect. You can see the complete post at http://groupswim.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/tmi-and-the-chaos-score-metcalf’s-law-applied-to-modern-productivity/ The point is we, as consumers of this data, can significantly improve our signal to noise ratio by rationalizing down our inputs. I believe you will not "miss" anything by cutting out a few feeds or a redundant application or two. So, what is your Chaos Score? Om
Excellent piece on the signal to noise issue we face on a daily basis. I have been thinking along similar lines. In a moment of “Serendipity” I created a concept called the Chaos Score. This basically looks at how the inputs (web, rss, apps, devices) have a similar behaviors to our information flow as Metcalf’s law regarding the network effect. You can see the complete post at (link)

The point is we, as consumers of this data, can significantly improve our signal to noise ratio by rationalizing down our inputs. I believe you will not “miss” anything by cutting out a few feeds or a redundant application or two.

So, what is your Chaos Score?

]]> By: Twitter-Summize Deal Confirmed - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-888609 Twitter-Summize Deal Confirmed - GigaOM Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:37:28 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-888609 [...] I outlined in my post last Monday, and yesterday, I think it is a super smart move by Twitter, and if they play their cards right is going to pay [...] [...] I outlined in my post last Monday, and yesterday, I think it is a super smart move by Twitter, and if they play their cards right is going to pay [...]

]]> By: ronald http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-888599 ronald Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:56:26 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-888599 @Stacey I don't know. The semantic web reminds me a lot of OO Programing. Problem is, the real world is not as clean. Data is messy, incomplete, inconsistent and the meaning can change over time, cultural boundaries. I don't think it has great advantages over keyword search. Might be good for some things but in general it's just hype. @Stacey
I don’t know. The semantic web reminds me a lot of OO Programing.
Problem is, the real world is not as clean. Data is messy, incomplete, inconsistent and the meaning can change over time, cultural boundaries.
I don’t think it has great advantages over keyword search. Might be good for some things but in general it’s just hype.

]]> By: Martin Edic http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-888589 Martin Edic Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:02:52 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-888589 Summize and most of the services that focus on tracking one or two media don't really help when it comes to parsing social media activity as a whole. The conversational one-to-many nature of social media means you need discovery tools that not only bring back results from across the eco-system but also give you extensive analysis capabilities: who is talking, where are they, are they positive/negative and how influential are they? These demographic, sentiment and authority measures help sort the bewildering array of conversations out there. Internet= Information Social Media= Communication Two very different things. Summize and most of the services that focus on tracking one or two media don’t really help when it comes to parsing social media activity as a whole. The conversational one-to-many nature of social media means you need discovery tools that not only bring back results from across the eco-system but also give you extensive analysis capabilities: who is talking, where are they, are they positive/negative and how influential are they? These demographic, sentiment and authority measures help sort the bewildering array of conversations out there.
Internet= Information
Social Media= Communication
Two very different things.

]]> By: Stacey Higginbotham http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-888588 Stacey Higginbotham Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:51:48 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-888588 Isn't the context you're calling for part of the hope for the semantic web? Once those ontologies and databases are set up isn't that the first level filter that determines which data belongs together? The second filter would be some type of recommendation engine that could learn your individual preferences? Isn’t the context you’re calling for part of the hope for the semantic web? Once those ontologies and databases are set up isn’t that the first level filter that determines which data belongs together? The second filter would be some type of recommendation engine that could learn your individual preferences?

]]> By: friarminor http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-888571 friarminor Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:32:24 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-888571 That's interesting! It never occurred to me how confusing it will be to classify those sites as they would be pulling from as many other sites as possible. Still the filters would be the determining factor as to how possibly close the info would be with regards to relevance to the query. Guess a few hits that would be as close to the need would be deemed more valuable than getting too many that only touches what we may call as 'border' answers. Funny, as I seem to be talking about a similar concept called 'network'. Or maybe the meaning of 'rich'. Best. alain mor.ph That’s interesting! It never occurred to me how confusing it will be to classify those sites as they would be pulling from as many other sites as possible.

Still the filters would be the determining factor as to how possibly close the info would be with regards to relevance to the query. Guess a few hits that would be as close to the need would be deemed more valuable than getting too many that only touches what we may call as ‘border’ answers.

Funny, as I seem to be talking about a similar concept called ‘network’. Or maybe the meaning of ‘rich’.

Best.
alain
mor.ph

]]> By: Brian Houston http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-888523 Brian Houston Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:52:35 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-888523 To me your article brings to mind aggregation and meta sites. I don't necessarily want to plow through umpteen different interfaces to get the information contained therein. Sites like PopURLs and (the egregious copy) alltop.com make a decision about what sites you will want grouped and bring it all into a single interface. Our site ScrapeUp.com attempts to do the same thing with video aggregators. To me your article brings to mind aggregation and meta sites.

I don’t necessarily want to plow through umpteen different interfaces to get the information contained therein. Sites like PopURLs and (the egregious copy) alltop.com make a decision about what sites you will want grouped and bring it all into a single interface.

Our site ScrapeUp.com attempts to do the same thing with video aggregators.

]]> By: Wing http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-888490 Wing Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:53:26 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-888490 Spot on...turning data into information is no longer sufficient. We need actionable insights that are contextual. It is well within reach even using today's technology to accomplish that but at some point, one has to deal with behavioral and personally identifiable info. Would people make the trade off between richer information and some degree of lost of privacy? Should that be regulated or would users be comfortable with a "do no evil" corporate mission?? Spot on…turning data into information is no longer sufficient. We need actionable insights that are contextual. It is well within reach even using today’s technology to accomplish that but at some point, one has to deal with behavioral and personally identifiable info. Would people make the trade off between richer information and some degree of lost of privacy? Should that be regulated or would users be comfortable with a “do no evil” corporate mission??

]]> By: Brian de Haaff http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-888481 Brian de Haaff Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:31:25 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-888481 Yes. Add to this the fact that most people spend at least 8 hours a day at a job trying to make decisions based on data that is unique to their business (and not searchable). Yet, we continue to build and use systems at work that constrain data like the early catalogue systems of the Web. At least in our “personal lives” we can use search engines like Google to try and cut through the clutter. The challenge is that business runs on infrastructure and data and there is an increasing amount of it. There is much work to be done in Search for sure, especially in the enterprise. A few months ago we posted a blog on what we thought the Perfect Search Engine for business would look like - https://community.paglo.com/blog_topic/index/57-perfect-search Brian de Haaff, Paglo Yes. Add to this the fact that most people spend at least 8 hours a day at a job trying to make decisions based on data that is unique to their business (and not searchable). Yet, we continue to build and use systems at work that constrain data like the early catalogue systems of the Web. At least in our “personal lives” we can use search engines like Google to try and cut through the clutter. The challenge is that business runs on infrastructure and data and there is an increasing amount of it. There is much work to be done in Search for sure, especially in the enterprise. A few months ago we posted a blog on what we thought the Perfect Search Engine for business would look like - (link)

Brian de Haaff, Paglo

]]> By: Tony http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-888478 Tony Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:20:34 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-888478 I don't give a damn about what's hot...I just want to get answers to my searches (often very niche) without fluff. I don’t give a damn about what’s hot…I just want to get answers to my searches (often very niche) without fluff.

]]> By: ronald http://gigaom.com/2008/07/14/can-serendipity-make-you-rich/#comment-888473 ronald Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:45:54 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=14125#comment-888473 Well first you would have to know what is Information, or how does data become Information and when. If you take it a step further you get into Knowledge how it relates to Information and how it's used. And soon you end up writing an equation for consciousness, because this all has to fit together. Just throwing terms around believing we all share the same definition is to say at least a stretch and repeated by all the so called Information workers out there. BTW, trying to get this even close enough to be right based on a Boolean system or algorithm will also be a stretch, or as far as I can see, impossible. Anyway next thing will be the talking about Intelligent systems, but if you have solved the equations for the above problems you will realize there is no one such thing (Intelligence). Ok, I'm grumpy today. Well first you would have to know what is Information, or how does data become Information and when. If you take it a step further you get into Knowledge how it relates to Information and how it’s used. And soon you end up writing an equation for consciousness, because this all has to fit together.
Just throwing terms around believing we all share the same definition is to say at least a stretch and repeated by all the so called Information workers out there.
BTW, trying to get this even close enough to be right based on a Boolean system or algorithm will also be a stretch, or as far as I can see, impossible.
Anyway next thing will be the talking about Intelligent systems, but if you have solved the equations for the above problems you will realize there is no one such thing (Intelligence).
Ok, I’m grumpy today.

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