<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:georss="http://www.georss.org/georss" xmlns:geo="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/wgs84_pos#" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Telerupted: Twilight for Telephone Networks</title>
	<atom:link href="http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/</link>
	<description>Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:00:16 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.com/</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Edna m Guerrero</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-888219</link>
		<dc:creator>Edna m Guerrero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-888219</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;I JUST RECEVED A MAGICJACK FROM YOUR COMPANY WE TRIED TO DOWNLOAD IT
BUT IT DOESN&quot;T WORK IN THIS AREA ZIP CODE 89436 TRYING EVERY WAY TO REACH YOU GUY&quot;S THROUGH YOUR EMAIL BUT CAN&quot;T SEEM TO BE ABLE TO REACH ANT ONE ABOUT YOUR PRODECT.IT IS DOWNLOADED IN MY COMPUTER /BUT WAS NEVER COMPLETED AS CANT PULL UP THIS AREA Sparks nv.89436 also want to send it back but can&quot;t get it removed from my computer.need to remove it
need your tex support help.sincerely Edna Guerrero.p:s please respond.
ASP.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I JUST RECEVED A MAGICJACK FROM YOUR COMPANY WE TRIED TO DOWNLOAD IT
BUT IT DOESN&#8221;T WORK IN THIS AREA ZIP CODE 89436 TRYING EVERY WAY TO REACH YOU GUY&#8221;S THROUGH YOUR EMAIL BUT CAN&#8221;T SEEM TO BE ABLE TO REACH ANT ONE ABOUT YOUR PRODECT.IT IS DOWNLOADED IN MY COMPUTER /BUT WAS NEVER COMPLETED AS CANT PULL UP THIS AREA Sparks nv.89436 also want to send it back but can&#8221;t get it removed from my computer.need to remove it
need your tex support help.sincerely Edna Guerrero.p:s please respond.
ASP.</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: sandrajones25</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-887985</link>
		<dc:creator>sandrajones25</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-887985</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;HI,
According to the experiences what you have gained are well and you already know good results of the devices which are being in use for the time being.The completely free model would email-ify VoIP. Your phone would ring a thousand times a day with offers for things you don’t care about just as your inbox is filled with such offers. People would ring your phone claiming to be your bank (verified by CallerID) asking for your account details just as you get such email.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just as the Post Office has not disappeared or become an anachronism, even for simple letter mail, VSPs serve a purpose. The Post Office charges advertisers to send you junk mail, so the amount of junk they can send is limited by their budget.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h1&gt;I think it is halarious that magic jack can take a cheezy looking kids site and rack 9000 users a day, lol , I bet those conglomerate CEO ’s are crapping thier pants, lol ( Dont sell out magic jack )&lt;/h1&gt;

&lt;p&gt;sandrajones25&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.minutetraders.com:&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The VoIP/TDM Routes Marketplace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI,
According to the experiences what you have gained are well and you already know good results of the devices which are being in use for the time being.The completely free model would email-ify VoIP. Your phone would ring a thousand times a day with offers for things you don’t care about just as your inbox is filled with such offers. People would ring your phone claiming to be your bank (verified by CallerID) asking for your account details just as you get such email.</p>

<p>Just as the Post Office has not disappeared or become an anachronism, even for simple letter mail, VSPs serve a purpose. The Post Office charges advertisers to send you junk mail, so the amount of junk they can send is limited by their budget.</p>

<h1>I think it is halarious that magic jack can take a cheezy looking kids site and rack 9000 users a day, lol , I bet those conglomerate CEO ’s are crapping thier pants, lol ( Dont sell out magic jack )</h1>

<p>sandrajones25</p>

<p><a href="http://www.minutetraders.com:" rel="nofollow"><br />
The VoIP/TDM Routes Marketplace</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kingsley</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-887897</link>
		<dc:creator>Kingsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 18:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-887897</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;SIP and its brethren do in fact spell the end of the minute based regime.  Minute counting made sense when a call consumed a fixed, finite, and measurable percentage of resources per minute of use.  Not so with packet-based communication services.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BUT, to say that there is no business for a Skype or Vonage or other &quot;VoIP Service Provider&quot; (VSP) is incorrect.  In a perfect world we would all register our addresses/numbers in public ENUM and plug our SIP (or other) phones into the internet and merrily make all calls for free.  Assuming that this process of registering and connecting were so simple that my grandmother could do it, there would still be the tragedy of the commons.  Economically speaking, VSPs introduce a small amount of friction into the network.  This friction prevents the tragedy by imposing costs on everyone including those who would abuse the network (as the shepherds abused the commons).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The completely free model would email-ify VoIP.  Your phone would ring a thousand times a day with offers for things you don&#039;t care about just as your inbox is filled with such offers.  People would ring your phone claiming to be your bank (verified by CallerID) asking for your account details just as you get such email.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just as the Post Office has not disappeared or become an anachronism, even for simple letter mail, VSPs serve a purpose.  The Post Office charges advertisers to send you junk mail, so the amount of junk they can send is limited by their budget.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Certainly, eventually the VSPs will not be counting minutes to make money, but they will still be there.  Their purpose will be to inject some order, security, and &quot;friction&quot; into the network that the industry needs to prevent a total collapse of the critical communications system due to misuse.  We might pay them for &quot;membership&quot; or for a flat rate service for some (not very clear) limited number of minutes, but we will pay them...and we will want to pay them for our life-line mainstream communications services.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SIP and its brethren do in fact spell the end of the minute based regime.  Minute counting made sense when a call consumed a fixed, finite, and measurable percentage of resources per minute of use.  Not so with packet-based communication services.</p>

<p>BUT, to say that there is no business for a Skype or Vonage or other &#8220;VoIP Service Provider&#8221; (VSP) is incorrect.  In a perfect world we would all register our addresses/numbers in public ENUM and plug our SIP (or other) phones into the internet and merrily make all calls for free.  Assuming that this process of registering and connecting were so simple that my grandmother could do it, there would still be the tragedy of the commons.  Economically speaking, VSPs introduce a small amount of friction into the network.  This friction prevents the tragedy by imposing costs on everyone including those who would abuse the network (as the shepherds abused the commons).</p>

<p>The completely free model would email-ify VoIP.  Your phone would ring a thousand times a day with offers for things you don&#8217;t care about just as your inbox is filled with such offers.  People would ring your phone claiming to be your bank (verified by CallerID) asking for your account details just as you get such email.</p>

<p>Just as the Post Office has not disappeared or become an anachronism, even for simple letter mail, VSPs serve a purpose.  The Post Office charges advertisers to send you junk mail, so the amount of junk they can send is limited by their budget.</p>

<p>Certainly, eventually the VSPs will not be counting minutes to make money, but they will still be there.  Their purpose will be to inject some order, security, and &#8220;friction&#8221; into the network that the industry needs to prevent a total collapse of the critical communications system due to misuse.  We might pay them for &#8220;membership&#8221; or for a flat rate service for some (not very clear) limited number of minutes, but we will pay them&#8230;and we will want to pay them for our life-line mainstream communications services.</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: McGuire&#8217;s Law &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Business Observations: July 1, 2008 Edition</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-886617</link>
		<dc:creator>McGuire&#8217;s Law &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Business Observations: July 1, 2008 Edition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-886617</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Telerupted: Twilight for Telephone Networks [...]&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Telerupted: Twilight for Telephone Networks [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Heralding the Death of the PSTN &#8212; VoIP Insider</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-885903</link>
		<dc:creator>Heralding the Death of the PSTN &#8212; VoIP Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-885903</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] makes reference to another opinion piece from Daniel Berninger at GigaOm that offers additional data which points to a decline in the relevancy of the PSTN in a world that [...]&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] makes reference to another opinion piece from Daniel Berninger at GigaOm that offers additional data which points to a decline in the relevancy of the PSTN in a world that [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jay Varner</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-885900</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Varner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-885900</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, Im with the rest of them , no damn tax here , there, they should all have lowered thier rates along time ago.  I have magic jack, and have a few problems connection to thier servers and registering its me, but this is understandable since there are so many poeple signing up a day.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In the end they will level out, and I will keep on sending my $20 a year.  I look for magic jack to soley rely on thier own total operation of bandwidth and all, cause monopilizers like Comcast will eventually packet sniff, and rid you of your service for voip other than them.  And AT&amp;  F&quot;N T can blow me I despise those corrupt bastards!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think it is halarious that magic jack can take a cheezy looking kids site and rack 9000 users a day, lol  ,    I bet those conglomerate CEO &#039;s are crapping thier pants, lol   ( Dont sell out magic jack )&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Im with the rest of them , no damn tax here , there, they should all have lowered thier rates along time ago.  I have magic jack, and have a few problems connection to thier servers and registering its me, but this is understandable since there are so many poeple signing up a day.</p>

<p>In the end they will level out, and I will keep on sending my $20 a year.  I look for magic jack to soley rely on thier own total operation of bandwidth and all, cause monopilizers like Comcast will eventually packet sniff, and rid you of your service for voip other than them.  And AT&amp;  F&#8221;N T can blow me I despise those corrupt bastards!</p>

<p>I think it is halarious that magic jack can take a cheezy looking kids site and rack 9000 users a day, lol  ,    I bet those conglomerate CEO &#8217;s are crapping thier pants, lol   ( Dont sell out magic jack )</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: zena68</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-885874</link>
		<dc:creator>zena68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-885874</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;MagicJack is great - who wouldn&#039;t kick the phone company to the curb and use cable for their internet connection?  I&#039;m not a techie but I am satisfied with the voice quality of MagicJack, the ease of installation and attachment to my cordless phone -  and love avoiding all the taxes and fees, never mind the costs, of good ol&#039; AT&amp;T.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MagicJack is great &#8211; who wouldn&#8217;t kick the phone company to the curb and use cable for their internet connection?  I&#8217;m not a techie but I am satisfied with the voice quality of MagicJack, the ease of installation and attachment to my cordless phone &#8211;  and love avoiding all the taxes and fees, never mind the costs, of good ol&#8217; AT&amp;T.</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Cory</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-885863</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-885863</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Macdad - there is no requirement to have a landline in order to use MagicJack.  Like at ATA, Magicjack does require an analog endpoint (phone), but does not utilize a POTS landline at all.  It is a USB based dongle, with an FXS port to which you attach a traditional analog phone.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The service is limited somewhat because it requires a running PC in order to faciliate calls, but the pricing model is certainly disruptive enough to have attracted a lot users in a short time.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Macdad &#8211; there is no requirement to have a landline in order to use MagicJack.  Like at ATA, Magicjack does require an analog endpoint (phone), but does not utilize a POTS landline at all.  It is a USB based dongle, with an FXS port to which you attach a traditional analog phone.</p>

<p>The service is limited somewhat because it requires a running PC in order to faciliate calls, but the pricing model is certainly disruptive enough to have attracted a lot users in a short time.</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Berninger: Twilight for Telephone Networks &#8212; Alec Saunders SquawkBox</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-885857</link>
		<dc:creator>Berninger: Twilight for Telephone Networks &#8212; Alec Saunders SquawkBox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-885857</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Telerupted: Twilight for Telephone Networks, Daniel Berninger projects that at some point VoIP networks will connect more individuals than the [...]&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Telerupted: Twilight for Telephone Networks, Daniel Berninger projects that at some point VoIP networks will connect more individuals than the [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lights Out for Phone Networks &#124; The VoIP Mag</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-885813</link>
		<dc:creator>Lights Out for Phone Networks &#124; The VoIP Mag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-885813</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] For more - GigaOm Sees The End of Telephony [...]&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For more &#8211; GigaOm Sees The End of Telephony [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Daniel Berninger</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-885666</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Berninger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-885666</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;broadband_fan,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;SIP runs at the core of Comcast&#039;s network, so they can peer (if they so choose) with any other SIP network.  Comcast is moving to Docsys 3.0 which also supports SIP end points.  Skype also does not support SIP end points, but they use SIP to connect with the telephone network (e.g. SkypeOut).  The column makes the point Skype and Comcast can connecting callers without touching the telephone network.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>broadband_fan,</p>

<p>SIP runs at the core of Comcast&#8217;s network, so they can peer (if they so choose) with any other SIP network.  Comcast is moving to Docsys 3.0 which also supports SIP end points.  Skype also does not support SIP end points, but they use SIP to connect with the telephone network (e.g. SkypeOut).  The column makes the point Skype and Comcast can connecting callers without touching the telephone network.</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: broadband_fan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-885614</link>
		<dc:creator>broadband_fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-885614</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Comcast does not use SIP for residential voip at this time.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comcast does not use SIP for residential voip at this time.</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-885589</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-885589</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;Daniel,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The idea (or ideal) of flat rate telephony pricing either globally or in a smaller domain breaks down, not because of the technical transport mechanism (TDM circuit switched vs. VoIP), in my opinion, but because the underlying business model for termination of calls for almost all wireline and wireless telcos is, as you pointed out, minute-based.  In some areas like the US the rates per minute are generally uniform and low, even for termination to wireless networks.  (There are notable exceptions where some small US-based CLECs or ILECs have obtained or maintained relatively high termination rates and are involved in &quot;traffic pumping&quot; schemes.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Where termination rates are low and predictable, carriers - whether traditional or VoIP - can reasonably safely engage in flat rate pricing to business users and consumers.  This type of business model assumes a reasonable distribution of demand from users for the flat rate prices.  An ongoing risk is that arbitrage wholesalers will buy the &quot;retail&quot; flat rate service and terminate huge amounts of traffic thereby breaking the business model.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Probably the largest impediment that I see to implementing flat rate pricing globally is the entrenched business models of non-US wireless (mostly GSM) carriers. These carriers charge high termination rates to other carriers to reach users on their networks.  This business model was historically tied to these carriers charging their users for outbound calls, but not charging their end users for inbound calls. This made having a mobile phone more attractive and helped increase the rate of penetration of mobile phones in these markets.  The down side is that the carriers charge other carriers high rates to terminate calls to their users.  It was only in the last couple years that regulators like Ofcom in the UK have worked (see mobile termination on this page: http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/cm/icmr07/overview/landscape/)
to reduce these rates, since it has become clear that there is no market mechanism to correct the issue.  All that being said, there are too many mobile carriers that depend upon these revenue streams to expect that the rates will match landline termination rates anytime soon.  This in turn will require all carriers, whether VoIP or not, to set their rates to cover these potential costs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I would expect that the path to a true SIP or VoIP flat rate telephony world will be through the expansion and interoperability of various VoIP &quot;islands&quot; of users. The ability of VoIP carriers to grow their closed or semi-closed VoIP-VoIP user groups into the mainstream seems to me to depend upon increasing the availability of clients on the termination end of calls.  This need could be mitigated to some extent by well implemented voice messaging and presence technology.  But traditional analog telephony is hard to beat in this respect since POTS phones are available to receive calls almost 24x7x365.  Many existing SIP clients depend upon desktop or laptop computers being on and having the software client loaded.  In a mobile environment VoIP software clients may cause battery life issues.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>

<p>The idea (or ideal) of flat rate telephony pricing either globally or in a smaller domain breaks down, not because of the technical transport mechanism (TDM circuit switched vs. VoIP), in my opinion, but because the underlying business model for termination of calls for almost all wireline and wireless telcos is, as you pointed out, minute-based.  In some areas like the US the rates per minute are generally uniform and low, even for termination to wireless networks.  (There are notable exceptions where some small US-based CLECs or ILECs have obtained or maintained relatively high termination rates and are involved in &#8220;traffic pumping&#8221; schemes.)</p>

<p>Where termination rates are low and predictable, carriers &#8211; whether traditional or VoIP &#8211; can reasonably safely engage in flat rate pricing to business users and consumers.  This type of business model assumes a reasonable distribution of demand from users for the flat rate prices.  An ongoing risk is that arbitrage wholesalers will buy the &#8220;retail&#8221; flat rate service and terminate huge amounts of traffic thereby breaking the business model.</p>

<p>Probably the largest impediment that I see to implementing flat rate pricing globally is the entrenched business models of non-US wireless (mostly GSM) carriers. These carriers charge high termination rates to other carriers to reach users on their networks.  This business model was historically tied to these carriers charging their users for outbound calls, but not charging their end users for inbound calls. This made having a mobile phone more attractive and helped increase the rate of penetration of mobile phones in these markets.  The down side is that the carriers charge other carriers high rates to terminate calls to their users.  It was only in the last couple years that regulators like Ofcom in the UK have worked (see mobile termination on this page: <a href="http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/cm/icmr07/overview/landscape/)" rel="nofollow">http://www.ofcom.org.uk/research/cm/icmr07/overview/landscape/)</a>
to reduce these rates, since it has become clear that there is no market mechanism to correct the issue.  All that being said, there are too many mobile carriers that depend upon these revenue streams to expect that the rates will match landline termination rates anytime soon.  This in turn will require all carriers, whether VoIP or not, to set their rates to cover these potential costs.</p>

<p>I would expect that the path to a true SIP or VoIP flat rate telephony world will be through the expansion and interoperability of various VoIP &#8220;islands&#8221; of users. The ability of VoIP carriers to grow their closed or semi-closed VoIP-VoIP user groups into the mainstream seems to me to depend upon increasing the availability of clients on the termination end of calls.  This need could be mitigated to some extent by well implemented voice messaging and presence technology.  But traditional analog telephony is hard to beat in this respect since POTS phones are available to receive calls almost 24&#215;7x365.  Many existing SIP clients depend upon desktop or laptop computers being on and having the software client loaded.  In a mobile environment VoIP software clients may cause battery life issues.</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: macdad</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-885585</link>
		<dc:creator>macdad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-885585</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;After several years of debating whether to proceed, we finally cancelled completely the wired telephone company. Maybe a 50% increase in the monthly charge (&#039;One Company Advantage&#039;- HAH!) was the final nail in the coffin. I cannot believe that MANY more homes have not done the same since cell phones are everywhere with long distance calls the same as local calls-- and the wired companies will fade into the sunset because they have nothing to offer. They SHOULD have been lowering the rates to keep their customers!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From the same view, why would a &#039;magicJack&#039; company believe it will succeed? It requires a wired phone for its cheap long distance calling.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After several years of debating whether to proceed, we finally cancelled completely the wired telephone company. Maybe a 50% increase in the monthly charge (&#8216;One Company Advantage&#8217;- HAH!) was the final nail in the coffin. I cannot believe that MANY more homes have not done the same since cell phones are everywhere with long distance calls the same as local calls&#8211; and the wired companies will fade into the sunset because they have nothing to offer. They SHOULD have been lowering the rates to keep their customers!</p>

<p>From the same view, why would a &#8216;magicJack&#8217; company believe it will succeed? It requires a wired phone for its cheap long distance calling.</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Alan Wilensky</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-885583</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Wilensky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 13:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-885583</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;The long term conversion of circuit switched to packet switched and routed systems has been well on its way for a number of years, both within and without the telco operations. SIP is a very efficient way to manage channel allocations for a given user population. There still may be some residual rationale for nailing up a circuit, but this era is coming to a close.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And now, we have alternative interconnect carriers that globally cater to no-on e but VOIP providers, making it possible to hop off the packet switched services and terminate to local exchanges world-wide, with all of the peering and termination fees hidden by these super-carriers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The conversion of mobile to fully VOIP is not far away. The idea of seperate voice data plans is merely a convenient partitioning of the mobile carrier&#039;s productization, for all of their payload past the tower interconnect is packet switched and managed dynamically in any case.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The long term conversion of circuit switched to packet switched and routed systems has been well on its way for a number of years, both within and without the telco operations. SIP is a very efficient way to manage channel allocations for a given user population. There still may be some residual rationale for nailing up a circuit, but this era is coming to a close.</p>

<p>And now, we have alternative interconnect carriers that globally cater to no-on e but VOIP providers, making it possible to hop off the packet switched services and terminate to local exchanges world-wide, with all of the peering and termination fees hidden by these super-carriers.</p>

<p>The conversion of mobile to fully VOIP is not far away. The idea of seperate voice data plans is merely a convenient partitioning of the mobile carrier&#8217;s productization, for all of their payload past the tower interconnect is packet switched and managed dynamically in any case.</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lee Dryburgh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/telerupted-twilight-for-telephone-networks/#comment-885578</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Dryburgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://gigaom.com/?p=13880#comment-885578</guid>
		<description>&lt;p&gt;I completely challenge the statistic that 20% of fixed line traffic is signalled with SIP. Please provide a rock solid reference/s.&lt;/p&gt;
</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely challenge the statistic that 20% of fixed line traffic is signalled with SIP. Please provide a rock solid reference/s.</p>]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
