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	<title>Comments on: STRUCTURE 08: Anagran Founder Lawrence Roberts Fights P2P</title>
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		<title>By: Inventor of the Internet Targets P2P (ZP) &#124; Direct2News</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/structure-08-anagran-founder-lawrence-roberts-fights-p2p/#comment-900017</link>
		<dc:creator>Inventor of the Internet Targets P2P (ZP) &#124; Direct2News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] and is simply trying to more equitably redistribute bandwidth to other users. In fact he even says that P2P traffic should diminish over the next several [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Roberts: il P2P è antidemocratico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberts: il P2P è antidemocratico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] un intervento ripreso da più parti, Roberts spiega che &#8220;il P2P non è il modo più efficiente di fare le [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Jay.DigitalHunger&#187; Blog Archive &#187; BitTorrent, P2P Criticized by Internet Founder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay.DigitalHunger&#187; Blog Archive &#187; BitTorrent, P2P Criticized by Internet Founder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] much more stark assessment of P2P&#8217;s overall bandwidth utilization. According to WareWare and Gigaom, Anagran calculated that P2P technology consumed a stunning 80% of all bandwidth. That calculation [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Kevin Walsh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/structure-08-anagran-founder-lawrence-roberts-fights-p2p/#comment-886076</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 19:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Huh?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No doubt Dr. Roberts is far smarter than I could ever hope to be. Heck, all by himself, evidently, he started the internet while I was still in the second grade.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But nevertheless there are two aspects of his narrative here that strike me as odd.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The first is the statement that “80% of the traffic on the internet is P2P.” What does that mean? 80% at a particular point? At a particular time? Or 80% of all internet traffic on the planet over an extended period of time? If it’s the later, how is that measured?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rule #1 in avoiding hyperbole: always be suspicious of broad statements of this sort. Maybe the internet really was doubling in size every 100 days back in the late 1990s but if we’d all have been a little more skeptical maybe the train wreck of the early part of this decade wouldn’t have occurred.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Second, and I’ve heard this a lot recently, “x percent of users are consuming y percent of bandwidth” where x is a small number and y is a big number. This immediately strikes people as unfair. It seems to imply that x percent of the users should consume x percent of the bandwidth. But few systems, other than the old USSR, really work that way (and even the USSR didn’t).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Light Reading’s Phil Harvey came up with a useful parallel to help put this “problem” in perspective. A small minority of people check out a majority of library books. Should we institute reader throttling to correct this inequity?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh?</p>

<p>No doubt Dr. Roberts is far smarter than I could ever hope to be. Heck, all by himself, evidently, he started the internet while I was still in the second grade.</p>

<p>But nevertheless there are two aspects of his narrative here that strike me as odd.</p>

<p>The first is the statement that “80% of the traffic on the internet is P2P.” What does that mean? 80% at a particular point? At a particular time? Or 80% of all internet traffic on the planet over an extended period of time? If it’s the later, how is that measured?</p>

<p>Rule #1 in avoiding hyperbole: always be suspicious of broad statements of this sort. Maybe the internet really was doubling in size every 100 days back in the late 1990s but if we’d all have been a little more skeptical maybe the train wreck of the early part of this decade wouldn’t have occurred.</p>

<p>Second, and I’ve heard this a lot recently, “x percent of users are consuming y percent of bandwidth” where x is a small number and y is a big number. This immediately strikes people as unfair. It seems to imply that x percent of the users should consume x percent of the bandwidth. But few systems, other than the old USSR, really work that way (and even the USSR didn’t).</p>

<p>Light Reading’s Phil Harvey came up with a useful parallel to help put this “problem” in perspective. A small minority of people check out a majority of library books. Should we institute reader throttling to correct this inequity?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Father of the Internet: P2P Hogging Too Much Traffic &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Father of the Internet: P2P Hogging Too Much Traffic &#171; NewTeeVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Hogging Too Much&#160;Traffic  P2P is inefficient, unfair, and hogging our bandwidth, according to Lawrence Roberts, founder of Anagran and one of the chief architects of the foundations of the [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Co-fundador da Internet critica P2P e BitTorrent &#124; Remixtures</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/structure-08-anagran-founder-lawrence-roberts-fights-p2p/#comment-885991</link>
		<dc:creator>Co-fundador da Internet critica P2P e BitTorrent &#124; Remixtures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Internet e de ser uma tecnologia ineficiente. De acordo com os seus números citados pelo Webware e GigaOM (via Slyck) cinco por cento dos internautas realizam transferências através de redes P2P que [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: P2P - Lord Voldermort of the Mobile World &#171; Kaulout</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/structure-08-anagran-founder-lawrence-roberts-fights-p2p/#comment-885835</link>
		<dc:creator>P2P - Lord Voldermort of the Mobile World &#171; Kaulout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 10:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] BitTorrent&#8217;s and Napster&#8217;s of the Internet world. P2P has dominated the headlines and some of its founders are still rallying against it. The Internet world has had a problem with P2P and this will not go away anytime soon and I do [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BitTorrent&#8217;s and Napster&#8217;s of the Internet world. P2P has dominated the headlines and some of its founders are still rallying against it. The Internet world has had a problem with P2P and this will not go away anytime soon and I do [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: whoopie</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/25/structure-08-anagran-founder-lawrence-roberts-fights-p2p/#comment-885780</link>
		<dc:creator>whoopie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;????? the entire point of p2p systems like bt is to spread the load of media traffic&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;just give it up anagran man, if the riaa couldn&#039;t shut down bt, neither can you&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>????? the entire point of p2p systems like bt is to spread the load of media traffic</p>

<p>just give it up anagran man, if the riaa couldn&#8217;t shut down bt, neither can you</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Live Coverage of Structure 08 - GigaOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Live Coverage of Structure 08 - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Live Coverage of Structure 08 - GigaOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Live Coverage of Structure 08 - GigaOM</dc:creator>
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