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		<title>By: We Need Platform Plays That Don&#8217;t Wobble - GigaOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>We Need Platform Plays That Don&#8217;t Wobble - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If startups are to build out wealth on a social networking platform, a mobile phone platform or a cloud computing platform, the platform providers need to have a set of rules, as well as a process to change the rules, that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] If startups are to build out wealth on a social networking platform, a mobile phone platform or a cloud computing platform, the platform providers need to have a set of rules, as well as a process to change the rules, that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hey Startups, Amazon Gets It - GigaOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hey Startups, Amazon Gets It - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] AM PT Comments (0)    One of the questions that I really wanted to get answered at Structure 08 was what the chances of survival are for the myriad of startups out there building their businesses around Amazon&#8217;s Web Services. Companies such as RightScale, Hyperic and Soasta depend on both [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] AM PT Comments (0)    One of the questions that I really wanted to get answered at Structure 08 was what the chances of survival are for the myriad of startups out there building their businesses around Amazon&#8217;s Web Services. Companies such as RightScale, Hyperic and Soasta depend on both [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blogging Hyperic &#187; June Newsletter or &#8220;How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love CloudStatus.&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogging Hyperic &#187; June Newsletter or &#8220;How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love CloudStatus.&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Window on the Cloud from GigaOM [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sanjay Gupta</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/23/a-window-on-the-cloud/#comment-885220</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanjay Gupta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is nothing new amazon provides monitoring status for thier cloud already and has been for a while.  http://status.aws.amazon.com/

Simple DB (SDB) replacement for Oracle
80k for $0.10 per hour

Interesting Clouds Are No Substitute for Competence. http://en.oreilly.com/velocity2008/public/schedule/detail/4373</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is nothing new amazon provides monitoring status for thier cloud already and has been for a while.  <a href="http://status.aws.amazon.com/" rel="nofollow">http://status.aws.amazon.com/</a></p>
<p>Simple DB (SDB) replacement for Oracle<br />
80k for $0.10 per hour</p>
<p>Interesting Clouds Are No Substitute for Competence. <a href="http://en.oreilly.com/velocity2008/public/schedule/detail/4373" rel="nofollow">http://en.oreilly.com/velocity2008/public/schedule/detail/4373</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ranjit Nayak</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/23/a-window-on-the-cloud/#comment-885204</link>
		<dc:creator>Ranjit Nayak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the cloud is spread across multiple geographies and data centers what exactly does the status mean? Is it the status of a specific data center?

As Stacey points out, shouldn&#039;t the cloud infrastructure provider display the status by default? If we consider the cloud to be a provider of OS like capabilities on the internet, we could expect the cloud to provide status as well. 

Hyperic is providing the equivalent of Systems management tool in the cloud. It will be interesting to see the evolution of Systems Management for the cloud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the cloud is spread across multiple geographies and data centers what exactly does the status mean? Is it the status of a specific data center?</p>
<p>As Stacey points out, shouldn&#8217;t the cloud infrastructure provider display the status by default? If we consider the cloud to be a provider of OS like capabilities on the internet, we could expect the cloud to provide status as well. </p>
<p>Hyperic is providing the equivalent of Systems management tool in the cloud. It will be interesting to see the evolution of Systems Management for the cloud.</p>
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		<title>By: botchagalupe</title>
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		<dc:creator>botchagalupe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking at the offering it appears to be more hype than substance.  Here is my spin on it...

Taking the Hype out of Hyperic’s new Cloudstatus.

http://www.johnmwillis.com/amazon/taking-the-hype-out-of-hyperics-new-cloudstatus/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking at the offering it appears to be more hype than substance.  Here is my spin on it&#8230;</p>
<p>Taking the Hype out of Hyperic’s new Cloudstatus.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.johnmwillis.com/amazon/taking-the-hype-out-of-hyperics-new-cloudstatus/" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnmwillis.com/amazon/taking-the-hype-out-of-hyperics-new-cloudstatus/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hyperic Launches CloudStatus, Cloud Management Software Deluxe &#124; Virtualization.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hyperic Launches CloudStatus, Cloud Management Software Deluxe &#124; Virtualization.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As Stacey Higginbotham puts it on GigaOm: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alan Wilensky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Wilensky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am (or was, maybe still am) in the camp that thinks my mid-tier clients are better of in the cloud for CRM services. some types of native database applications, POS, etc.

But, some of these venture backed SAAS and PAAS providers simply cannot warrant that they will be around in perpetuity. How can they?

The industry needs to underwrite some type of continuity indemnification, insurance standards beyond vanilla business interruption, and potential solutions for hot standbys. 

It&#039;s going to get ugly after the first high profile SAAS providers go into Arrington&#039;s dead pool, or a service like Amazon or Google has a big, costly outage. Then people will re-think what using VC backed cloud services can buy. Still it&#039;s tempting and a sexy alternative for those who can plan around the inevitable outages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am (or was, maybe still am) in the camp that thinks my mid-tier clients are better of in the cloud for CRM services. some types of native database applications, POS, etc.</p>
<p>But, some of these venture backed SAAS and PAAS providers simply cannot warrant that they will be around in perpetuity. How can they?</p>
<p>The industry needs to underwrite some type of continuity indemnification, insurance standards beyond vanilla business interruption, and potential solutions for hot standbys. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s going to get ugly after the first high profile SAAS providers go into Arrington&#8217;s dead pool, or a service like Amazon or Google has a big, costly outage. Then people will re-think what using VC backed cloud services can buy. Still it&#8217;s tempting and a sexy alternative for those who can plan around the inevitable outages.</p>
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