Comments on: Kozinski and Community: What’s Decent in a Connected World? http://gigaom.com/2008/06/16/kozinski-and-community-whats-decent-in-a-global-internet/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:26:30 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Bonga http://gigaom.com/2008/06/16/kozinski-and-community-whats-decent-in-a-global-internet/#comment-913552 Bonga Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:44:25 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13809#comment-913552 <p>Some one made an interesting point: It was Sanai who took the material and put it out beyond the reach of a private site.(so some assert, as gospel) So, who is it that is publishing the smut if it is smut ?</p> <p>If the WWW is filled with SMUT, if one goes into some cyber smut site, if one does not want to, he/ she can avoid. STAY CLEAR... STAY WAY CLEAR But, who published or extended the Kozinski stored smut if it was indeed so---broader in the cyber world ? Can any address that ? Yes, Marcy(faithful servant of Alex) notes some are not entitled to their own facts.. Does that apply to the Kozinski's as well. What ever the facts are as determined by <>>>, behind some sheilds, and kept secret, are one of those unkown unknowns, at this point. Mr Sanai must have felt humilated by the Kozinski's antics, but he did that in no judgeship role on any merits of any case where he had jurisdiction. If Alex is so smart, or is wife is, don't they know that, even as UCLA grads ? Sad..</p> Some one made an interesting point: It was Sanai who took the material and put it out beyond the reach of a private site.(so some assert, as gospel) So, who is it that is publishing the smut if it is smut ?

If the WWW is filled with SMUT, if one goes into some cyber smut site, if one does not want to, he/ she can avoid. STAY CLEAR… STAY WAY CLEAR But, who published or extended the Kozinski stored smut if it was indeed so—broader in the cyber world ? Can any address that ? Yes, Marcy(faithful servant of Alex) notes some are not entitled to their own facts.. Does that apply to the Kozinski’s as well. What ever the facts are as determined by <>>>, behind some sheilds, and kept secret, are one of those unkown unknowns, at this point. Mr Sanai must have felt humilated by the Kozinski’s antics, but he did that in no judgeship role on any merits of any case where he had jurisdiction. If Alex is so smart, or is wife is, don’t they know that, even as UCLA grads ? Sad..

]]> By: LaRanda http://gigaom.com/2008/06/16/kozinski-and-community-whats-decent-in-a-global-internet/#comment-913549 LaRanda Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:28:51 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13809#comment-913549 <p>Kozinski is the one who started the net crusade, he put his letter on the Recorder Net, to bash that Sanai fellow to seek to humilate, and ridcule him. But, he was not sitting as a lawful, duly sitting judge on some case on that on the merits, he was----hanging out there. Some seem to fail to get that. He is the darling of the NET-wing nuts, and seemed to gravitate into the cyber lands... but,cyber land is not a Federal court----DUH. Isn't that the lesson here---indeed. How come so many fail to see that ? The judge's wife's letter seeking to defend the Judge, can not fit him in black robes. He simply was not a sitting judge in federal court when he pulled his antics, and it is amazing that so many fail to see that. If some guy is a judge , and whips his wong out in the Castro District, and urinates on the street, he is acting as just some smuck, not as a judge in some Chambers in some judgeship role. Larry Lessing seems to be clueless, Kozinski's chambers do not extend worldwide, beyond the limits of Chambers etc.. His ranting to be a mouth piece for the judge, fails to note the above. Why is that, is he blind betwen the real world and some cyber delusions ?</p> Kozinski is the one who started the net crusade, he put his letter on the Recorder Net, to bash that Sanai fellow to seek to humilate, and ridcule him. But, he was not sitting as a lawful, duly sitting judge on some case on that on the merits, he was—-hanging out there. Some seem to fail to get that. He is the darling of the NET-wing nuts, and seemed to gravitate into the cyber lands… but,cyber land is not a Federal court—-DUH. Isn’t that the lesson here—indeed. How come so many fail to see that ? The judge’s wife’s letter seeking to defend the Judge, can not fit him in black robes. He simply was not a sitting judge in federal court when he pulled his antics, and it is amazing that so many fail to see that. If some guy is a judge , and whips his wong out in the Castro District, and urinates on the street, he is acting as just some smuck, not as a judge in some Chambers in some judgeship role. Larry Lessing seems to be clueless, Kozinski’s chambers do not extend worldwide, beyond the limits of Chambers etc.. His ranting to be a mouth piece for the judge, fails to note the above. Why is that, is he blind betwen the real world and some cyber delusions ?

]]> By: To whom falls the role of moral watchdog? at diversity.net.nz http://gigaom.com/2008/06/16/kozinski-and-community-whats-decent-in-a-global-internet/#comment-884660 To whom falls the role of moral watchdog? at diversity.net.nz Fri, 20 Jun 2008 17:38:12 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13809#comment-884660 <p>[...] do we just put it down to context, as Alistair says over on GigaOm; We judge what’s acceptable based on the standards put forth by the community in [...]</p> [...] do we just put it down to context, as Alistair says over on GigaOm; We judge what’s acceptable based on the standards put forth by the community in [...]

]]> By: ol' yeller http://gigaom.com/2008/06/16/kozinski-and-community-whats-decent-in-a-global-internet/#comment-884172 ol' yeller Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:40:16 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13809#comment-884172 <p>Great rebuttal Marcy.</p> <p>Good to know a 9th Circuit Court judge has a current sense of humor.</p> <p>The LA Times reporter should be publicly (verbally) skewered.</p> <p>I don't expect anything but trash from the SF Chronicle, so no surprise there - I don't even read that 'weekly' quality daily for local news, let alone anything serious.</p> Great rebuttal Marcy.

Good to know a 9th Circuit Court judge has a current sense of humor.

The LA Times reporter should be publicly (verbally) skewered.

I don’t expect anything but trash from the SF Chronicle, so no surprise there – I don’t even read that ‘weekly’ quality daily for local news, let alone anything serious.

]]> By: Daniel Golding http://gigaom.com/2008/06/16/kozinski-and-community-whats-decent-in-a-global-internet/#comment-884111 Daniel Golding Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:36:49 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13809#comment-884111 <p>Judge Kozinski is one of our best appeals court judges. I'm saddened to see the media react so irresponsibly - this is a blot on the already suffering reputation of the LA Times. Print media is going to suffer a very nasty and drawn out death - look at the Washington Post.</p> <p>Perhaps we should institute 24 hour surveillance on all of our judges to ensure that they never look at anything "objectionable"? Of course, thats a pretty broad swath. Maybe we should just weld blinders to them?</p> Judge Kozinski is one of our best appeals court judges. I’m saddened to see the media react so irresponsibly – this is a blot on the already suffering reputation of the LA Times. Print media is going to suffer a very nasty and drawn out death – look at the Washington Post.

Perhaps we should institute 24 hour surveillance on all of our judges to ensure that they never look at anything “objectionable”? Of course, thats a pretty broad swath. Maybe we should just weld blinders to them?

]]> By: Alistair Croll http://gigaom.com/2008/06/16/kozinski-and-community-whats-decent-in-a-global-internet/#comment-883994 Alistair Croll Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:39:03 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13809#comment-883994 <p>Marcy,</p> <p>Thanks for the note. Hopefully the fact that this was not a public site, and that while it was accessible through HTTP it was not intended as a public resource, came across in the article. As I pointed out, "The fact that the server was readable doesn’t mean the judge intended to share the materials; it was a misconfiguration."</p> <p>The www.patterico.com link is a great resource for those who want a more in-depth look at the story.</p> <p>A.</p> Marcy,

Thanks for the note. Hopefully the fact that this was not a public site, and that while it was accessible through HTTP it was not intended as a public resource, came across in the article. As I pointed out, “The fact that the server was readable doesn’t mean the judge intended to share the materials; it was a misconfiguration.”

The http://www.patterico.com link is a great resource for those who want a more in-depth look at the story.

A.

]]> By: Marcy Tiffany http://gigaom.com/2008/06/16/kozinski-and-community-whats-decent-in-a-global-internet/#comment-883987 Marcy Tiffany Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:16:58 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13809#comment-883987 <p>I am Alex Kozinski's wife of 30 plus years.</p> <p>In the words of Daniel Patrick Moynahan, "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."</p> <p>Your readers may want to read my email on Patterico.com where I explain what actually happened.</p> I am Alex Kozinski’s wife of 30 plus years.

In the words of Daniel Patrick Moynahan, “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.”

Your readers may want to read my email on Patterico.com where I explain what actually happened.

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