Comments on: Why the Home Network Needs More Than Just Wi-Fi http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/ Business, Internet, Technology & Strategy Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:13:40 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Vectorpedia http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-895412 Vectorpedia Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:36:20 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-895412 Technology for Wi-Fi is getting better and thus more application are now available........many people continue to prefer hard wire systems. Technology for Wi-Fi is getting better and thus more application are now available……..many people continue to prefer hard wire systems.

]]> By: Wi-Fi Will Own the Home Network - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-891173 Wi-Fi Will Own the Home Network - GigaOM Wed, 30 Jul 2008 03:01:20 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-891173 [...] video transfer company Celeno Communications just drives this point home. While some may argue that videophiles will choose a specialized standard such as WirelessHD or WHDI, plain old Wi-Fi will likely work for most people, and won’t [...] [...] video transfer company Celeno Communications just drives this point home. While some may argue that videophiles will choose a specialized standard such as WirelessHD or WHDI, plain old Wi-Fi will likely work for most people, and won’t [...]

]]> By: Gary Sorkin http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-886035 Gary Sorkin Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:46:47 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-886035 Hi Mike, I agree with Avner about the potential of the HPCCv1.0. The C&C will need to be a hybrid of PLC and wireless to reach both on the grid and off the grid items. ZigBee is good for jumping over walls to get to gas and water meters, and thermostats and digital displays. A fridge dosen't need wireless, it's not moving - hence powerline is the elegant design. Gary Hi Mike,

I agree with Avner about the potential of the HPCCv1.0. The C&C will need to be a hybrid of PLC and wireless to reach both on the grid and off the grid items. ZigBee is good for jumping over walls to get to gas and water meters, and thermostats and digital displays. A fridge dosen’t need wireless, it’s not moving – hence powerline is the elegant design.

Gary

]]> By: Michael Wolf http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-884284 Michael Wolf Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:29:40 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-884284 Hi Chano - Thanks for you input. You are right, BT, Telefonica and others are nice wins for DS2. Overall, both DS2/UPA and HomePlug are seeing significant traction overall in IPTV. Hi Chano – Thanks for you input. You are right, BT, Telefonica and others are nice wins for DS2. Overall, both DS2/UPA and HomePlug are seeing significant traction overall in IPTV.

]]> By: Michael Wolf http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-884283 Michael Wolf Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:27:42 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-884283 Alec- good to hear from you again. Yes, its been quite a while since the early UPnP days. Hope all is well! Alec- good to hear from you again. Yes, its been quite a while since the early UPnP days. Hope all is well!

]]> By: Graham Anderson http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-884073 Graham Anderson Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:10:41 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-884073 We live in a development of yuppie apartments in London's Docklands, and at last count, there are *26* wifi networks competing for spectrum around our house. We got HomePlug AV adapters which connect our router to the desktops, the NAS and the Mac Mini under the TV as wireless is hopeless in such a noisy environment. It is the only way we get bareable performance for video and music off the NAS. If a neighbour buys a new piece of kit and changes to a different channel for wifi, we have a nightmare - we have to play hunt-the-least-interference-bedevilled-channel until wifi becomes usable again. With my next home, I will probably wire the place with gigEthernet cabling. Unless you live in a lower density housing development, or can afford to adopt a technology like 802.11a/n that is less popular than the ubiquitous g, I can't see the issues with wireless interference getting better. Has anyone invented Faraday Cage paint yet? I would happily paint all my perimeter walls with it :) We live in a development of yuppie apartments in London’s Docklands, and at last count, there are *26* wifi networks competing for spectrum around our house. We got HomePlug AV adapters which connect our router to the desktops, the NAS and the Mac Mini under the TV as wireless is hopeless in such a noisy environment. It is the only way we get bareable performance for video and music off the NAS.

If a neighbour buys a new piece of kit and changes to a different channel for wifi, we have a nightmare – we have to play hunt-the-least-interference-bedevilled-channel until wifi becomes usable again.

With my next home, I will probably wire the place with gigEthernet cabling. Unless you live in a lower density housing development, or can afford to adopt a technology like 802.11a/n that is less popular than the ubiquitous g, I can’t see the issues with wireless interference getting better.

Has anyone invented Faraday Cage paint yet? I would happily paint all my perimeter walls with it :)

]]> By: Alec Saunders http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-884066 Alec Saunders Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:15:25 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-884066 Hi Mike, Many years ago we seemed to be talking about all the early variants of these technologies. Funnily enough, when it came time to do my home network I went with a simple ethernet backbone and WiFi. It has served me well for the last 8 years, and wasn't that expensive to install at about $75/drop. Alec. Hi Mike,

Many years ago we seemed to be talking about all the early variants of these technologies. Funnily enough, when it came time to do my home network I went with a simple ethernet backbone and WiFi. It has served me well for the last 8 years, and wasn’t that expensive to install at about $75/drop.

Alec.

]]> By: Chano Gomez http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-883950 Chano Gomez Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:20:44 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-883950 Hi Mike, Good analysis, but I think your numbers on powerline market share for IPTV distribution are incorrect. UPA technology is the market leader in that segment (good examples are BT Vision, Telefonica Imagenio, Portugal Telecom Meo, etc), having shipped more devices that any other competing "200 Mbps" powerline technology. Many people confuse HomePlug and HomePlug AV (which are not interoperable which each other, by the way), and assume that shipments of HomePlug AV devices are as high as plain HomePlug (they are not). Hi Mike,

Good analysis, but I think your numbers on powerline market share for IPTV distribution are incorrect. UPA technology is the market leader in that segment (good examples are BT Vision, Telefonica Imagenio, Portugal Telecom Meo, etc), having shipped more devices that any other competing “200 Mbps” powerline technology.

Many people confuse HomePlug and HomePlug AV (which are not interoperable which each other, by the way), and assume that shipments of HomePlug AV devices are as high as plain HomePlug (they are not).

]]> By: EVDO-Mobile Wireless Broad Band http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-883866 EVDO-Mobile Wireless Broad Band Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:11:50 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-883866 Wireless broadband technologies also include new services from companies such as Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T Mobility, which allow a more mobile version of this broadband access. Consumers can purchase a PC card, laptop card, or USB equipment to connect their PC or laptop to the Internet via cell phone towers. This type of connection would be stable in almost any area that could also receive a strong cell phone connection. These connections can cost more for portable convenience as well as having speed limitations in all but urban environments. Wireless broadband technologies also include new services from companies such as Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T Mobility, which allow a more mobile version of this broadband access. Consumers can purchase a PC card, laptop card, or USB equipment to connect their PC or laptop to the Internet via cell phone towers. This type of connection would be stable in almost any area that could also receive a strong cell phone connection. These connections can cost more for portable convenience as well as having speed limitations in all but urban environments.

]]> By:   Why the Home Network Needs More Than Just Wi-Fi  — instantwebmeetings.com - Video Conference, Collaboration, E Learning, Video Collaboration, Video Meeting, Unified Communications http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-883823   Why the Home Network Needs More Than Just Wi-Fi  — instantwebmeetings.com - Video Conference, Collaboration, E Learning, Video Collaboration, Video Meeting, Unified Communications Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:45:48 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-883823 [...] SOURCE [...] [...] SOURCE [...]

]]> By: Sunday links: local biases « Abnormal Returns http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-883802 Sunday links: local biases « Abnormal Returns Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:36:45 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-883802 [...] Does your house need more than just Wi-Fi? (GigaOM.com) [...] [...] Does your house need more than just Wi-Fi? (GigaOM.com) [...]

]]> By: Avner Matmor http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-883798 Avner Matmor Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:50:23 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-883798 Once you talk "command and control" you have to talk about the HomePlug Alliance's HomePlug Command and Control standard. www.homeplug.org and www.yitran.com Once you talk “command and control” you have to talk about the HomePlug Alliance’s HomePlug Command and Control standard. http://www.homeplug.org and http://www.yitran.com

]]> By: Michael Weissman http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-883771 Michael Weissman Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:31:36 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-883771 WiFi is a great technology, but it doesn't provide the throughput broadcast video requires. Today, carriers require over 50 Mbit/s to deliver IPTV inside consumer's homes. In addition, carriers are working on new applications and services that will increase the requirements to 200 or even 300 Mbit/s in the next few years. That's why CopperGate, the leading chip company for IPTV home networks is so bullish on G.hn. While we are the leader in HomePNA (having shipped over 5 million units) AND are entering the HomePlug AV market, we ultimately see G.hn as THE universal, global wired home networking standard. WiFi is a great technology, but it doesn’t provide the throughput broadcast video requires. Today, carriers require over 50 Mbit/s to deliver IPTV inside consumer’s homes. In addition, carriers are working on new applications and services that will increase the requirements to 200 or even 300 Mbit/s in the next few years.

That’s why CopperGate, the leading chip company for IPTV home networks is so bullish on G.hn. While we are the leader in HomePNA (having shipped over 5 million units) AND are entering the HomePlug AV market, we ultimately see G.hn as THE universal, global wired home networking standard.

]]> By: Eideard http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-883742 Eideard Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:08:17 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-883742 I keep forgetting the majority of folks watching TV still think only in terms of streaming. Using a DVR for years - originally for timeshifting only - even 80211.g was adequate for storing HDTV in my AppleTV for an evening's viewing. With 80211.n now the standard in our home, I still don't even think about streaming video. Sitting here with a laptop with "n" built-in, surfing the Web with a home fibre connection at 6mbps, I don't need anything faster because the Web isn't going to be delivering anything faster than I already can handle. I keep forgetting the majority of folks watching TV still think only in terms of streaming. Using a DVR for years – originally for timeshifting only – even 80211.g was adequate for storing HDTV in my AppleTV for an evening’s viewing.

With 80211.n now the standard in our home, I still don’t even think about streaming video.

Sitting here with a laptop with “n” built-in, surfing the Web with a home fibre connection at 6mbps, I don’t need anything faster because the Web isn’t going to be delivering anything faster than I already can handle.

]]> By: mjgraves http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-883739 mjgraves Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:24:34 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-883739 I remain surprised that my home network has grown to encompass over 30 attached devices. Only three are served by wifi. At least in my experience wifi is a limited application network scheme that services portable devices, typically laptops, in my home. Most other network devices are on wired ethernet. Most of my wired ethernet has been migrated to gigabit ethernet now that switch costs have dropped. This is especially useful for large backups. I remain surprised that my home network has grown to encompass over 30 attached devices. Only three are served by wifi. At least in my experience wifi is a limited application network scheme that services portable devices, typically laptops, in my home. Most other network devices are on wired ethernet.

Most of my wired ethernet has been migrated to gigabit ethernet now that switch costs have dropped. This is especially useful for large backups.

]]> By: Nima http://gigaom.com/2008/06/14/why-the-home-network-needs-more-than-just-wi-fi/#comment-883738 Nima Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:17:55 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13765#comment-883738 don't forget zigbee! don’t forget zigbee!

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