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		<title>By: Twitter Wants to Capture LBS Mojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitter Wants to Capture LBS Mojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Twitter-based mobile applications who pioneered essentially the same offering months before, including Twinkle, UberTwitter and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rajeev</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-901603</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajeev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys, Free twitter client for samsung Instinct is available at <a href="http://www.chetu.com/mproducts" rel="nofollow">http://www.chetu.com/mproducts</a>. so what you are waiting for Just buzz the world with samsung instinct</p>
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		<title>By: Is iPhone The Next Ad Frontier - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-898469</link>
		<dc:creator>Is iPhone The Next Ad Frontier - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 05:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and DirecTV. These advertisements are going to be embedded into on popular iPhone apps such as Tap Tap Revenge by Tapulous, Sports Tap, BubbleWrap and Loopt in addition to other apps such as Whrrl and Moblyng that already [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and DirecTV. These advertisements are going to be embedded into on popular iPhone apps such as Tap Tap Revenge by Tapulous, Sports Tap, BubbleWrap and Loopt in addition to other apps such as Whrrl and Moblyng that already [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kimbjo</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-891794</link>
		<dc:creator>kimbjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 23:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ says who?

iphone users are uber geeks and valley tech nerds. aka people who think software should be free and who won&#039;t pay for ANY software.

iphone software is the new web 2.0. and we know where that ended up (although most of the readers of gigaom are still in denial)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ says who?</p>
<p>iphone users are uber geeks and valley tech nerds. aka people who think software should be free and who won&#8217;t pay for ANY software.</p>
<p>iphone software is the new web 2.0. and we know where that ended up (although most of the readers of gigaom are still in denial)</p>
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		<title>By: iFund Has Invested in 5 Companies So Far - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-890258</link>
		<dc:creator>iFund Has Invested in 5 Companies So Far - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] back in March, I am surprised by the number of startups they&#8217;re investing in already. I have heard that VCs are currently sifting through business plans for iPhone-related startups. Tapulous is one [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] back in March, I am surprised by the number of startups they&#8217;re investing in already. I have heard that VCs are currently sifting through business plans for iPhone-related startups. Tapulous is one [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Commoditization of GPS &#38; the Golden Age of Location-based Services - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-884163</link>
		<dc:creator>The Commoditization of GPS &#38; the Golden Age of Location-based Services - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] interesting LBS applications. The subsequent success of independent applications makers &#8212; Pelagao and Sense Networks, for instance &#8212; will in turn push other platform owners to find [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] interesting LBS applications. The subsequent success of independent applications makers &#8212; Pelagao and Sense Networks, for instance &#8212; will in turn push other platform owners to find [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dale Larson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-883494</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;built over 30 apps. 

That&#039;s one of the things most interesting to me about the App Store, part of what really creates the potential for the App as the new Single.  On the desktop today, you can&#039;t develop 30 simple, beautiful apps that are worth paying for separately, and there isn&#039;t a good way to charge for them individually.  But put them in a store together along with all the other apps available for the platform and you might just have something.

@Shrike, iPhone is not &#039;the&#039; mobile platform because of numbers, but because it is so damn difficult to find, buy, install and use applications on every other handset. The point of the excitement here is that the market hasn&#039;t existed in the sense that users were&#039;t buying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;built over 30 apps. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s one of the things most interesting to me about the App Store, part of what really creates the potential for the App as the new Single.  On the desktop today, you can&#8217;t develop 30 simple, beautiful apps that are worth paying for separately, and there isn&#8217;t a good way to charge for them individually.  But put them in a store together along with all the other apps available for the platform and you might just have something.</p>
<p>@Shrike, iPhone is not &#8216;the&#8217; mobile platform because of numbers, but because it is so damn difficult to find, buy, install and use applications on every other handset. The point of the excitement here is that the market hasn&#8217;t existed in the sense that users were&#8217;t buying.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Sigal</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-883297</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Sigal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Om, this is a classic VC paradox.  On the one hand, a hugely innovative platform, destined to secure a massive global footprint, and owing to the marriage of iPhone SDK with AppStore, you have app builder, marketplace, e-wallet and distribution channel rolled into one.

On the other hand, very low technical barriers to entry and built in marketing/reach/monetization reduces selling barriers, translating to a &quot;back the winners&quot; strategy as best path in most cases.

The real opportunity seems to be more at the angel investor level since most iPhone app builders won&#039;t need a big support organization and marketing spend to get a product launched, iterate and find their way to an audience.  $500K +/- is a more palatable and profitable way to separate the wheat from the chaffe, and save the VC dollars for expansion capital or more horizontal/business types of offerings.

Food for thought, and here is a detailed analysis of Jobs&#039; Keynote at WWDC:

iPhone 2.0: Swinging for the Global Fences
http://thenetworkgarden.com/weblog/2008/06/iphone-20-swing.html

Check it out if interested.

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om, this is a classic VC paradox.  On the one hand, a hugely innovative platform, destined to secure a massive global footprint, and owing to the marriage of iPhone SDK with AppStore, you have app builder, marketplace, e-wallet and distribution channel rolled into one.</p>
<p>On the other hand, very low technical barriers to entry and built in marketing/reach/monetization reduces selling barriers, translating to a &#8220;back the winners&#8221; strategy as best path in most cases.</p>
<p>The real opportunity seems to be more at the angel investor level since most iPhone app builders won&#8217;t need a big support organization and marketing spend to get a product launched, iterate and find their way to an audience.  $500K +/- is a more palatable and profitable way to separate the wheat from the chaffe, and save the VC dollars for expansion capital or more horizontal/business types of offerings.</p>
<p>Food for thought, and here is a detailed analysis of Jobs&#8217; Keynote at WWDC:</p>
<p>iPhone 2.0: Swinging for the Global Fences<br />
<a href="http://thenetworkgarden.com/weblog/2008/06/iphone-20-swing.html" rel="nofollow">http://thenetworkgarden.com/weblog/2008/06/iphone-20-swing.html</a></p>
<p>Check it out if interested.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 Ireland &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Irish man on stage for Apple Developer Conference</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-883296</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 Ireland &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Irish man on stage for Apple Developer Conference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 21:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - any Irish startups working on iPhone platform - see related note from Om - do drop us a note in the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ME</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-883282</link>
		<dc:creator>ME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 20:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tunewiki!!!!  http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/10/tunewiki-launches-location-based-music-network-for-iphone/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tunewiki!!!!  <a href="http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/10/tunewiki-launches-location-based-music-network-for-iphone/" rel="nofollow">http://venturebeat.com/2008/06/10/tunewiki-launches-location-based-music-network-for-iphone/</a></p>
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		<title>By: &#187; iPhone apps are the new Facebook Apps I&#8217;m Building Something Here: Experiments in Entrepreneurship and Value Creation in the Social Web</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-883263</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; iPhone apps are the new Facebook Apps I&#8217;m Building Something Here: Experiments in Entrepreneurship and Value Creation in the Social Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] news on Monday, apparently there&#8217;s a new gold rush: iPhone applications. So much so that VCs are beginning to salivate over the seemingly tiny market. With 6 million handsets out there - and a fraction of the overall [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] news on Monday, apparently there&#8217;s a new gold rush: iPhone applications. So much so that VCs are beginning to salivate over the seemingly tiny market. With 6 million handsets out there &#8211; and a fraction of the overall [...]</p>
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		<title>By: JamesBruni</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-883256</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesBruni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pinch Media is definitely a company to watch.  These guys are moving real fast into this space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pinch Media is definitely a company to watch.  These guys are moving real fast into this space.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-883247</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mark T, 

Some investors is what i focused on. There are also term-sheet chasers and they will do any and everything.</description>
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<p>Some investors is what i focused on. There are also term-sheet chasers and they will do any and everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark T</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-883243</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 16:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.....&quot;Some investors are taking a watch-and-see approach to the sector&quot;..

If VC&#039;s are telling you this you&#039;re being taken down a dark alley. Most VC&#039;s that have any interest in the mobile space will be investing in the earliest stages of these companies. Don&#039;t think for a minute that VC&#039;s will stand on the sidelines with Kleiner Perkins having earmarked $100M for this platform. Also, the entry of RIMM into the competition will only help increase the reach of dollars for innovative start ups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;..&#8221;Some investors are taking a watch-and-see approach to the sector&#8221;..</p>
<p>If VC&#8217;s are telling you this you&#8217;re being taken down a dark alley. Most VC&#8217;s that have any interest in the mobile space will be investing in the earliest stages of these companies. Don&#8217;t think for a minute that VC&#8217;s will stand on the sidelines with Kleiner Perkins having earmarked $100M for this platform. Also, the entry of RIMM into the competition will only help increase the reach of dollars for innovative start ups.</p>
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		<title>By: Shrike</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-883241</link>
		<dc:creator>Shrike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the iPhone has the AT&amp;T anchor around it&#039;s neck, it shouldn&#039;t be overhyped as &#039;the&#039; mobile platform.  Until its available on other services, we have to consider the deeply ingrained Blackberry and other key platforms on which so much of the market depends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the iPhone has the AT&amp;T anchor around it&#8217;s neck, it shouldn&#8217;t be overhyped as &#8216;the&#8217; mobile platform.  Until its available on other services, we have to consider the deeply ingrained Blackberry and other key platforms on which so much of the market depends.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacquis</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/11/venture-capitalists-eyeing-iphone-start-ups/#comment-883240</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacquis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had two thoughts in my head as I wrote that last comment.   I confusingly mixed in the fact about Apple&#039;s App Store being available in 62 out of the 72 countries in which the iPhone will be sold with the total potential customer base of the Carriers partnered with Apple.

So like the guy above was trying to say... if they were excited by the 100 million US customer limited market served by a single carrier, then they should be even more excited to fund and invest in start-ups that can reach a 1 Billion customer global market base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had two thoughts in my head as I wrote that last comment.   I confusingly mixed in the fact about Apple&#8217;s App Store being available in 62 out of the 72 countries in which the iPhone will be sold with the total potential customer base of the Carriers partnered with Apple.</p>
<p>So like the guy above was trying to say&#8230; if they were excited by the 100 million US customer limited market served by a single carrier, then they should be even more excited to fund and invest in start-ups that can reach a 1 Billion customer global market base.</p>
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