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		<title>By: iPhone 3G &#8211; Critical Mass Crashes In &#171; thoughts on computing</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iPhone 3G &#8211; Critical Mass Crashes In &#171; thoughts on computing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] to the iPhone 3G Michael Arrington is lavish, Alex Miller is funny, Om Malik is well-reasoned, many analysts are ga-ga. Highlights [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: jollypal</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Man I can&#039;t wait for the new iPhone 3G S, my iPhone 1st gen really needs a replacer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man I can&#8217;t wait for the new iPhone 3G S, my iPhone 1st gen really needs a replacer.</p>
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		<title>By: Hitesh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hitesh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi

Now, I am giving second thought to iPhone as it is available with EMI option as well. Saw this info on Airtel site (http://www.airtel.in/iphone3g)

Hitesh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>Now, I am giving second thought to iPhone as it is available with EMI option as well. Saw this info on Airtel site (<a href="http://www.airtel.in/iphone3g" rel="nofollow">http://www.airtel.in/iphone3g</a>)</p>
<p>Hitesh</p>
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		<title>By: How iPhone Could Resurrect Wireless Chip Makers - GigaOM</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How iPhone Could Resurrect Wireless Chip Makers - GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Nokia N95 for granted, but middle America or even Europe doesn&#8217;t always see the point. But if housewives and teens clamor for iPhones, chip makers will [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nokia N95 for granted, but middle America or even Europe doesn&#8217;t always see the point. But if housewives and teens clamor for iPhones, chip makers will [...]</p>
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		<title>By: McGuire&#8217;s Law &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Business Observations: June 23, 2008 Edition</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/10/inside-the-3g-iphone-money-machine/#comment-203968</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[McGuire&#8217;s Law &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Business Observations: June 23, 2008 Edition]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Inside the 3G iPhone Money Machine [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Sachin</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/10/inside-the-3g-iphone-money-machine/#comment-203967</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[good info..any info about the 3G&#039;s date of India launch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good info..any info about the 3G&#8217;s date of India launch.</p>
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		<title>By: Wireless Broad Band</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/10/inside-the-3g-iphone-money-machine/#comment-203966</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wireless Broad Band]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 05:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BSNL has decided to launch its Data Services on CDMA 2000 IX by using BSNL Internet Connect Card (ICC). The CDMA IX ICC will provide Internet Service @144kbps to computer users on their laptops as well as on desktops. This service will be available in all those locations wherever CDMA IX MSC based coverage is there. However, during roaming the said Internet connectivity will not work at present. The following two types of data Cards will be available for BSNL customers:

(A) Network Interface Card (NIC) : For internet speed up to 144 Kbps.

(B) EVDO Card : Internet speed up to 2.4 Mbps*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BSNL has decided to launch its Data Services on CDMA 2000 IX by using BSNL Internet Connect Card (ICC). The CDMA IX ICC will provide Internet Service @144kbps to computer users on their laptops as well as on desktops. This service will be available in all those locations wherever CDMA IX MSC based coverage is there. However, during roaming the said Internet connectivity will not work at present. The following two types of data Cards will be available for BSNL customers:</p>
<p>(A) Network Interface Card (NIC) : For internet speed up to 144 Kbps.</p>
<p>(B) EVDO Card : Internet speed up to 2.4 Mbps*</p>
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		<title>By: Harvitpal Arora</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi Om,

Can&#039;t get enough of the IPhone so I have no qualms with more posts...keep at it!

My 2 pennies/cents/paisae....

Will it impact Nokia and RIM?

Sure will, not Nokia so much in the short term but in the longer term it will. As for RIM, they will feel the impact within three months of the 3G iphone launch.

You commented that RIMM&#039;s consumer play may be impacted...that now makes up 50% of their unit sales!
If there is even a 10% impact on that part of their business, thats going to be noticed...and then there is price competition. RIMM enjoys high margins, say good by to those across the full 50% of unit sales to the consumer play.

Then we should all remember that, this is the tip of the ice burg...yeah RIM is coming out with their iphone killer and so is Nokia, HTC, Samsung, LG...and hey lets not forget...PALM!

Then there is clincher...the dream phone...Android....Google...Schmidt...free push email...their push into the enterprise market with apps and all....plus I think we can all recall, Schmidt saying phones should be free (obviously supported by ad or other revenue)...thats not going to help RIM, Apple or any of the hardware players...it will come down to user experience with content/application access and usability...Apples in the lead and copying hardware is easier...the apps and content side...no one has hacked the ipod market yet!

Does not look good for RIM...Nokia is large enough and has enough experience to get past this, plus they address a larger spread of market and they have been in this game with constant pressure on margins for so long.

The whole game changes from this point in. Price is critical to all this and Apple has addressed this...in the US anyway!

Who losses?...its all up for grabs I think...talking about smart phones is redundant I believe....what&#039;s a smart phone? Except for the bottom most part of the market (may be highest volume sales due to developing market)..all phones today are pretty smart!

The cost to build these so call smart phones will only get cheaper.
Friend from India just returned with a 3G phone from India (made in china - TC something or rather) with dual sim, 3G, Bluetooth, Wifi, TV/FM receiver, email, touch screen, etc etc...for outright cost of US $110. Its no real competition to iPhone, Blackberry just yet, buts its a solid proposition for 100 dollars...its their implementation of software that needs addressing.

I would be worried being long on RIMM....I must say I have a short position on them!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Om,</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t get enough of the IPhone so I have no qualms with more posts&#8230;keep at it!</p>
<p>My 2 pennies/cents/paisae&#8230;.</p>
<p>Will it impact Nokia and RIM?</p>
<p>Sure will, not Nokia so much in the short term but in the longer term it will. As for RIM, they will feel the impact within three months of the 3G iphone launch.</p>
<p>You commented that RIMM&#8217;s consumer play may be impacted&#8230;that now makes up 50% of their unit sales!<br />
If there is even a 10% impact on that part of their business, thats going to be noticed&#8230;and then there is price competition. RIMM enjoys high margins, say good by to those across the full 50% of unit sales to the consumer play.</p>
<p>Then we should all remember that, this is the tip of the ice burg&#8230;yeah RIM is coming out with their iphone killer and so is Nokia, HTC, Samsung, LG&#8230;and hey lets not forget&#8230;PALM!</p>
<p>Then there is clincher&#8230;the dream phone&#8230;Android&#8230;.Google&#8230;Schmidt&#8230;free push email&#8230;their push into the enterprise market with apps and all&#8230;.plus I think we can all recall, Schmidt saying phones should be free (obviously supported by ad or other revenue)&#8230;thats not going to help RIM, Apple or any of the hardware players&#8230;it will come down to user experience with content/application access and usability&#8230;Apples in the lead and copying hardware is easier&#8230;the apps and content side&#8230;no one has hacked the ipod market yet!</p>
<p>Does not look good for RIM&#8230;Nokia is large enough and has enough experience to get past this, plus they address a larger spread of market and they have been in this game with constant pressure on margins for so long.</p>
<p>The whole game changes from this point in. Price is critical to all this and Apple has addressed this&#8230;in the US anyway!</p>
<p>Who losses?&#8230;its all up for grabs I think&#8230;talking about smart phones is redundant I believe&#8230;.what&#8217;s a smart phone? Except for the bottom most part of the market (may be highest volume sales due to developing market)..all phones today are pretty smart!</p>
<p>The cost to build these so call smart phones will only get cheaper.<br />
Friend from India just returned with a 3G phone from India (made in china &#8211; TC something or rather) with dual sim, 3G, Bluetooth, Wifi, TV/FM receiver, email, touch screen, etc etc&#8230;for outright cost of US $110. Its no real competition to iPhone, Blackberry just yet, buts its a solid proposition for 100 dollars&#8230;its their implementation of software that needs addressing.</p>
<p>I would be worried being long on RIMM&#8230;.I must say I have a short position on them!</p>
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		<title>By: charlie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nokia will be hurt by the iphone.  Let&#039;s assume 10 million sales.  Yes, peanuts compared to the 45 million s60 devices.  But that is NOT peanuts compared to the smaller universe of E and N series smartphones.  Nokia doesn&#039;t break out those numbers, so lets assume they are 1/4 of Nokia s60 sales, or 15 million.  that is in the same order of magnitude as iphone sales.

What&#039;s more what Apple is doing is sucking away Nokia&#039;s profit share.  Nokia MUST be making more on a $500 N96 than a $100 generic s60 device.  Nokia will move volume, but lose the high end to Apple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nokia will be hurt by the iphone.  Let&#8217;s assume 10 million sales.  Yes, peanuts compared to the 45 million s60 devices.  But that is NOT peanuts compared to the smaller universe of E and N series smartphones.  Nokia doesn&#8217;t break out those numbers, so lets assume they are 1/4 of Nokia s60 sales, or 15 million.  that is in the same order of magnitude as iphone sales.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s more what Apple is doing is sucking away Nokia&#8217;s profit share.  Nokia MUST be making more on a $500 N96 than a $100 generic s60 device.  Nokia will move volume, but lose the high end to Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: djacobs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[djacobs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Harry Nads
Yeah, I figured that out a month after the first iPhone was released.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Harry Nads<br />
Yeah, I figured that out a month after the first iPhone was released.</p>
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		<title>By: Techboy2000</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Techboy2000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Terry
Contrary to your belief, the USA is blazing ahead in the 3G, 4g world.  Other than the goofy closed networks in Japan and Korea, the USA is has the best 3g data networks.  It is AT&amp;T and Verizon who are pushing 4g LTE&#039;s implementation.
Sprint is aggressive but more like an aggressive grease fire.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Terry<br />
Contrary to your belief, the USA is blazing ahead in the 3G, 4g world.  Other than the goofy closed networks in Japan and Korea, the USA is has the best 3g data networks.  It is AT&amp;T and Verizon who are pushing 4g LTE&#8217;s implementation.<br />
Sprint is aggressive but more like an aggressive grease fire.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Long</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Long]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 02:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would be nice to see speculative numbers regarding income generated from iTunes (software store and music (20 songs per device?)), as well as revenue generated from premium Mobile Me services.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would be nice to see speculative numbers regarding income generated from iTunes (software store and music (20 songs per device?)), as well as revenue generated from premium Mobile Me services.</p>
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		<title>By: This and That About the 3G iPhone &#124; Mark Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[This and That About the 3G iPhone &#124; Mark Evans]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] then more than makes it up later by raising data prices for iPhone-crazed subscribers. Meanwhile, GigaOm has a Q&amp;A looking at how much money the iPhone will it make for Apple and its carrier [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] then more than makes it up later by raising data prices for iPhone-crazed subscribers. Meanwhile, GigaOm has a Q&#38;A looking at how much money the iPhone will it make for Apple and its carrier [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek Puri</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vivek Puri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quoting wikipedia: &quot;As of September 2007, the iPod had sold more than 150 million units&quot;, since getting launched in 2001. iPhone is way more then iPod, so i am expecting at the least similar numbers.

As for competition, i expect RIM&#039;s growth or profit(if they sell of $50 a piece) to vaporize in the next 1-2 years. It will be very hard for them to recover from the missing mobile browser and better screen size. Even if they deliver a better browser of sorts later this year, getting started with developer traction grinds will be 1 year late. Not sure how many developers would be able to split their resources between developing for apple, google, mozilla, msft, opera, and finally RIM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoting wikipedia: &#8220;As of September 2007, the iPod had sold more than 150 million units&#8221;, since getting launched in 2001. iPhone is way more then iPod, so i am expecting at the least similar numbers.</p>
<p>As for competition, i expect RIM&#8217;s growth or profit(if they sell of $50 a piece) to vaporize in the next 1-2 years. It will be very hard for them to recover from the missing mobile browser and better screen size. Even if they deliver a better browser of sorts later this year, getting started with developer traction grinds will be 1 year late. Not sure how many developers would be able to split their resources between developing for apple, google, mozilla, msft, opera, and finally RIM.</p>
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		<title>By: allen stern</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[allen stern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[great post Om!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great post Om!</p>
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		<title>By: p-air</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[p-air]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saul Hansell fm the NY Times penned a piece yesterday mentioning that the service fm AT&amp;T for the new iPhone will cost $10 more per month.  Hence, over the life of the lock-in 2 year contract, AT&amp;T should actually make an additional $240 per unit, minus the $200 subsidy means they make an additional $40 per unit.  I&#039;d say that&#039;s a pretty nice return, and net-net, it&#039;s the consumers that are actually paying for the subsidy, AT&amp;T is just fronting the money ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saul Hansell fm the NY Times penned a piece yesterday mentioning that the service fm AT&amp;T for the new iPhone will cost $10 more per month.  Hence, over the life of the lock-in 2 year contract, AT&amp;T should actually make an additional $240 per unit, minus the $200 subsidy means they make an additional $40 per unit.  I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s a pretty nice return, and net-net, it&#8217;s the consumers that are actually paying for the subsidy, AT&amp;T is just fronting the money ;)</p>
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