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		<title>By: On WiFi, T-Mobile, Starbucks &#38; AT&#38;T Make Up, Drink Coffee - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/07/t-mobile-vs-starbucks-free-wifi/#comment-883269</link>
		<dc:creator>On WiFi, T-Mobile, Starbucks &#38; AT&#38;T Make Up, Drink Coffee - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] T-Mobile, Starbucks &amp; AT&amp;T Make Up, Drink&#160;Coffee &#8212; Now that was fast! T-Mobile which had sued Starbucks last week over the coffee chain partnering with AT&amp;T and offering free WiFi has [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] T-Mobile, Starbucks &#38; AT&#38;T Make Up, Drink&nbsp;Coffee &mdash; Now that was fast! T-Mobile which had sued Starbucks last week over the coffee chain partnering with AT&#38;T and offering free WiFi has [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/07/t-mobile-vs-starbucks-free-wifi/#comment-883216</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick Barron:
I had the same experience, but didn&#039;t get near as far as you did. Using FF3, IE, and Safari on my Dell EVERYTIME I tried to open my browser my browser would freeze. Then, to access Internet from anywhere else, I would have to restore my computer to a point before I went to Starbucks. I tried this at THREE different Starbucks&#039; and all gave me the same experience. It doesn&#039;t happen at home or other coffee shops - its just there.
I waste 2 hours yesterday trying different coffee shops!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Barron:<br />
I had the same experience, but didn&#8217;t get near as far as you did. Using FF3, IE, and Safari on my Dell EVERYTIME I tried to open my browser my browser would freeze. Then, to access Internet from anywhere else, I would have to restore my computer to a point before I went to Starbucks. I tried this at THREE different Starbucks&#8217; and all gave me the same experience. It doesn&#8217;t happen at home or other coffee shops &#8211; its just there.<br />
I waste 2 hours yesterday trying different coffee shops!</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Blog Archive &#187; T-Mobile Sues Starbucks Over Free Wifi - The PR Issues</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/07/t-mobile-vs-starbucks-free-wifi/#comment-882880</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Blog Archive &#187; T-Mobile Sues Starbucks Over Free Wifi - The PR Issues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] company and its new partner, AT&amp;T offering free in-store Wifi. The details can be found at GigaOm  and Rich Tehrani&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vista calendar gadget - T-Mobile Sues Starbucks Over Free AT&#38;T Wi-Fi [Starbucks]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vista calendar gadget - T-Mobile Sues Starbucks Over Free AT&#38;T Wi-Fi [Starbucks]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve been seeing &#8220;attwifi&#8221; access points at every Starbucks I&#8217;ve been to in NYC, and used the free Wi-Fi at two of them, so I figured the transition was complete at those stores, even though the T-Mobile network was still lingering in the background. Can any Starbucks employees lay out more info as to what&#8217;s going down with the transition? [Reuters via GigaOM] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve been seeing &#8220;attwifi&#8221; access points at every Starbucks I&#8217;ve been to in NYC, and used the free Wi-Fi at two of them, so I figured the transition was complete at those stores, even though the T-Mobile network was still lingering in the background. Can any Starbucks employees lay out more info as to what&#8217;s going down with the transition? [Reuters via GigaOM] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Is 3G Ready For The iPhone Stress Test? - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/07/t-mobile-vs-starbucks-free-wifi/#comment-882831</link>
		<dc:creator>Is 3G Ready For The iPhone Stress Test? - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] same time, it has partnered with Starbucks to offer Free WiFi in the coffee chain&#8217;s stores. (It got Starbucks sued by T-Mobile [...]</description>
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		<title>By: T-Mobile Sues Starbucks Over Free AT&#38;T Wi-Fi [Starbucks] &#124; blogGadgets.nl</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-Mobile Sues Starbucks Over Free AT&#38;T Wi-Fi [Starbucks] &#124; blogGadgets.nl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve been seeing &#8220;attwifi&#8221; access points at every Starbucks I&#8217;ve been to in NYC, and used the free Wi-Fi at two of them, so I figured the transition was complete at those stores, even though the T-Mobile network was still lingering in the background. Can any Starbucks employees lay out more info as to what&#8217;s going down with the transition? [Reuters via GigaOM] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve been seeing &#8220;attwifi&#8221; access points at every Starbucks I&#8217;ve been to in NYC, and used the free Wi-Fi at two of them, so I figured the transition was complete at those stores, even though the T-Mobile network was still lingering in the background. Can any Starbucks employees lay out more info as to what&#8217;s going down with the transition? [Reuters via GigaOM] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Warrick Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warrick Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sweetraskels Blog&#187; Blog Archive &#187; T-Mobile Sues Starbucks Over Free AT&#38;T Wi-Fi [Starbucks]</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sweetraskels Blog&#187; Blog Archive &#187; T-Mobile Sues Starbucks Over Free AT&#38;T Wi-Fi [Starbucks]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve been seeing &#8220;attwifi&#8221; access points at every Starbucks I&#8217;ve been to in NYC, and used the free Wi-Fi at two of them, so I figured the transition was complete at those stores, even though the T-Mobile network was still lingering in the background. Can any Starbucks employees lay out more info as to what&#8217;s going down with the transition? [Reuters via GigaOM] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve been seeing &#8220;attwifi&#8221; access points at every Starbucks I&#8217;ve been to in NYC, and used the free Wi-Fi at two of them, so I figured the transition was complete at those stores, even though the T-Mobile network was still lingering in the background. Can any Starbucks employees lay out more info as to what&#8217;s going down with the transition? [Reuters via GigaOM] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nick barron</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/07/t-mobile-vs-starbucks-free-wifi/#comment-882722</link>
		<dc:creator>nick barron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just came from a Starbucks where I was going to try their &quot;free&quot; wi-fi for the first time and, possibly, see if I would become a Starbucks customer once again.

I knew my experience wasn&#039;t going to go well when both Starbucks employees couldn&#039;t explain how the wi-fi promotion works. &quot;I think you get one of these cards and they might give you Internet on it or something.&quot;

After I purchased the card, I tried for 15 minutes and three restarts of my browser to register the card, which I thought was all I needed to do to enjoy my &quot;free wi-fi.&quot; Once registration was complete, I then clicked the link that said &quot;Already in a Starbucks store? Click to sign on.&quot;

So I clicked and then was taken back to the landing page you&#039;re directed to when you first open your browser in a Starbucks. This page had no direction for someone looking to use their Starbucks card to log onto the wi-fi network.

I clicked here, and I clicked there, and I restarted my browser a couple of times since it kept freezing (I&#039;m using FF3), all to no avail. After 30 minutes of my time wasted trying to use the &quot;free&quot; wi-fi, I finally closed my MacBook and closed the door on me ever being a Starbucks customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just came from a Starbucks where I was going to try their &#8220;free&#8221; wi-fi for the first time and, possibly, see if I would become a Starbucks customer once again.</p>
<p>I knew my experience wasn&#8217;t going to go well when both Starbucks employees couldn&#8217;t explain how the wi-fi promotion works. &#8220;I think you get one of these cards and they might give you Internet on it or something.&#8221;</p>
<p>After I purchased the card, I tried for 15 minutes and three restarts of my browser to register the card, which I thought was all I needed to do to enjoy my &#8220;free wi-fi.&#8221; Once registration was complete, I then clicked the link that said &#8220;Already in a Starbucks store? Click to sign on.&#8221;</p>
<p>So I clicked and then was taken back to the landing page you&#8217;re directed to when you first open your browser in a Starbucks. This page had no direction for someone looking to use their Starbucks card to log onto the wi-fi network.</p>
<p>I clicked here, and I clicked there, and I restarted my browser a couple of times since it kept freezing (I&#8217;m using FF3), all to no avail. After 30 minutes of my time wasted trying to use the &#8220;free&#8221; wi-fi, I finally closed my MacBook and closed the door on me ever being a Starbucks customer.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberta Murphy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/07/t-mobile-vs-starbucks-free-wifi/#comment-882715</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberta Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Starbucks has been hurting not only because of the recession, but because free wifi is becoming ubiquitous. It&#039;s freely available at Panera Bread shops-- and thousands of other locations throughout the country. 

Wifi has to be free for Starbucks to compete. They have no choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Starbucks has been hurting not only because of the recession, but because free wifi is becoming ubiquitous. It&#8217;s freely available at Panera Bread shops&#8211; and thousands of other locations throughout the country. </p>
<p>Wifi has to be free for Starbucks to compete. They have no choice.</p>
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		<title>By: günlük burçlar</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/07/t-mobile-vs-starbucks-free-wifi/#comment-882673</link>
		<dc:creator>günlük burçlar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 08:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that is really god. we ll surf :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that is really god. we ll surf :)</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/07/t-mobile-vs-starbucks-free-wifi/#comment-882659</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T-Mo should sue, that&#039;s a major part of their business (especially now with H@H), and it was kind of shady for Starbucks to switch like that and then even break their own agreement...

@Offbeatmammal
T-Mobile has the best international roaming now because of H@H... In fact, I was on a cruise ship and connected to their wifi for the 40 cents per minute and was able to make a phone call... pretty nifty. Not to mention, if you find wifi (like McDonalds) internationally... international roaming is FREE... that&#039;s pretty much the best international I can imagine...

but, you&#039;re right, I would like to see them give a good price if you&#039;re on, say, DT in Germany... it&#039;s their own network, so why is it a buck a minute?

Anyways, more power to T-Mo for suing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T-Mo should sue, that&#8217;s a major part of their business (especially now with H@H), and it was kind of shady for Starbucks to switch like that and then even break their own agreement&#8230;</p>
<p>@Offbeatmammal<br />
T-Mobile has the best international roaming now because of H@H&#8230; In fact, I was on a cruise ship and connected to their wifi for the 40 cents per minute and was able to make a phone call&#8230; pretty nifty. Not to mention, if you find wifi (like McDonalds) internationally&#8230; international roaming is FREE&#8230; that&#8217;s pretty much the best international I can imagine&#8230;</p>
<p>but, you&#8217;re right, I would like to see them give a good price if you&#8217;re on, say, DT in Germany&#8230; it&#8217;s their own network, so why is it a buck a minute?</p>
<p>Anyways, more power to T-Mo for suing</p>
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		<title>By: Offbeatmammal</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/07/t-mobile-vs-starbucks-free-wifi/#comment-882656</link>
		<dc:creator>Offbeatmammal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 04:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think T-Mo should be worried. One of the reasons I became a T-Mo customer (and signed my family up) was the ubiquity of Startbucks and thus T-Mo hotspots.
With the change over to AT&amp;T I no longer have a compelling reason to stay with T-Mo.
If I want 3G then I&#039;d go AT&amp;T. If I want an iPhone2 I&#039;d go AT&amp;T. If I want better coverage I&#039;d go AT&amp;T. With one smart move AT&amp;T have made T-Mo pretty uninteresting to me.
Sure, T-Mo have the Shadow (which is an awesome simple smartphone) but AT&amp;T also have some great Windows Mobile devices so I can stick with the platform I like.
If AT&amp;T prices match T-Mo when contracts expire...

Of course there are other carrier considerations, but until the day one of them works out how to do international roaming without price gouging (T-Mo, Verizon - you both have overseas affiliation so why not make it easy and affordable) though with Skype and Fring etc do I really care...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think T-Mo should be worried. One of the reasons I became a T-Mo customer (and signed my family up) was the ubiquity of Startbucks and thus T-Mo hotspots.<br />
With the change over to AT&amp;T I no longer have a compelling reason to stay with T-Mo.<br />
If I want 3G then I&#8217;d go AT&amp;T. If I want an iPhone2 I&#8217;d go AT&amp;T. If I want better coverage I&#8217;d go AT&amp;T. With one smart move AT&amp;T have made T-Mo pretty uninteresting to me.<br />
Sure, T-Mo have the Shadow (which is an awesome simple smartphone) but AT&amp;T also have some great Windows Mobile devices so I can stick with the platform I like.<br />
If AT&amp;T prices match T-Mo when contracts expire&#8230;</p>
<p>Of course there are other carrier considerations, but until the day one of them works out how to do international roaming without price gouging (T-Mo, Verizon &#8211; you both have overseas affiliation so why not make it easy and affordable) though with Skype and Fring etc do I really care&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Shell</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/07/t-mobile-vs-starbucks-free-wifi/#comment-882626</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in Madison, WI and my local Starbucks has T-mobile and AT&amp;T available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in Madison, WI and my local Starbucks has T-mobile and AT&amp;T available.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Mesa</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/07/t-mobile-vs-starbucks-free-wifi/#comment-882625</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Mesa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that AT&amp;T should be sued as well, it&#039;s pretty shady of both companies to be pulling the wool over T-Mo&#039;s eyes like that. I mean it&#039;s great for consumers, but it&#039;s just shady to be offering free services on T-Mo&#039;s infrastructure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that AT&amp;T should be sued as well, it&#8217;s pretty shady of both companies to be pulling the wool over T-Mo&#8217;s eyes like that. I mean it&#8217;s great for consumers, but it&#8217;s just shady to be offering free services on T-Mo&#8217;s infrastructure.</p>
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		<title>By: MiniMage</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/06/07/t-mobile-vs-starbucks-free-wifi/#comment-882622</link>
		<dc:creator>MiniMage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to know that AT&amp;T is only in a couple of the markets, and in places I&#039;m not likely to go. I&#039;ve yet to use my free T-Mobile access, and the news that Starbucks was switching made me wonder if I&#039;d ever get the chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to know that AT&amp;T is only in a couple of the markets, and in places I&#8217;m not likely to go. I&#8217;ve yet to use my free T-Mobile access, and the news that Starbucks was switching made me wonder if I&#8217;d ever get the chance.</p>
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