Comments on: Time Warner Cable Broadband Tiers Lead to Fears http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:54:52 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Yeah, I’d Like Metered Broadband, Too — If It Were Actually Metered http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-981319 Yeah, I’d Like Metered Broadband, Too — If It Were Actually Metered Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:01:21 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-981319 [...] when ISPs talk about meters they’re talking about different service tiers that don’t reflect actual usage, but herd customers into set plans where most will be paying [...] [...] when ISPs talk about meters they’re talking about different service tiers that don’t reflect actual usage, but herd customers into set plans where most will be paying [...]

]]> By: anon http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-935944 anon Fri, 03 Apr 2009 22:39:54 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-935944 You will now have to pay extra for: * Banner ads being forced on you * People putting mp3 and wav backgrounds music on their pages (myspace, facebook, etc...) * Large resolution images (which may be uploaded at a higher resolution then necessary by an inexperienced developer) * Windows updates & Software updates in general (FireFox, Safari, Opera, Flash, Java, Acrobat, etc...) * Antivirus updates * Netflix * Television episodes posted by their respective networks * YouTube * Email Attachments * Comet chat clients (requiring high bandwidth to maintain connection) * Online games * iTunes & Amazon downloads * File transfers between office/home/school (Access to online school library resources) * Remote desktop bandwidth * Unwanted traffic (port scans, automated exploits, DoS) * Internet radio You will now have to pay extra for:
* Banner ads being forced on you
* People putting mp3 and wav backgrounds music on their pages (myspace, facebook, etc…)
* Large resolution images (which may be uploaded at a higher resolution then necessary by an inexperienced developer)
* Windows updates & Software updates in general (FireFox, Safari, Opera, Flash, Java, Acrobat, etc…)
* Antivirus updates
* Netflix
* Television episodes posted by their respective networks
* YouTube
* Email Attachments
* Comet chat clients (requiring high bandwidth to maintain connection)
* Online games
* iTunes & Amazon downloads
* File transfers between office/home/school (Access to online school library resources)
* Remote desktop bandwidth
* Unwanted traffic (port scans, automated exploits, DoS)
* Internet radio

]]> By: Chris http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-935535 Chris Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:54:16 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-935535 Tim, I do run my own business, and understand your point. Profitability is a good thing. If the business model is broken, it needs to change. Will consumers accept it, is the question? Let's view this from the consumer's side for a minute. Just one example...let's say I'm a cable subscriber, and use their internet service. Oh, and they've just instituted a tiered usage plan with overage fees. And I download HD movies, or watch my favorite TV programs online. In the example of an HD movie, that could cost me about $30 (see (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/time-warner-download-too-much-and-you-might-pay-30-a-movie/). Who's going to pay that? (more than once) Anybody? I agree with the referenced article...I think these folks are trying to get in front of the growing demand for downloaded video. What would cable companies do if we could download all of our video (TV) content from the internet? And if "extremely high users" are the villains here, why not punish them via published policies? In the TW case, I think more people will bump against that 40Gb download than you might think at first. And more will going forward with on-demand video....which is *exactly* what I'm sure TW is counting on. Tim, I do run my own business, and understand your point. Profitability is a good thing. If the business model is broken, it needs to change. Will consumers accept it, is the question?

Let’s view this from the consumer’s side for a minute. Just one example…let’s say I’m a cable subscriber, and use their internet service. Oh, and they’ve just instituted a tiered usage plan with overage fees. And I download HD movies, or watch my favorite TV programs online. In the example of an HD movie, that could cost me about $30 (see (http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/time-warner-download-too-much-and-you-might-pay-30-a-movie/). Who’s going to pay that? (more than once) Anybody?

I agree with the referenced article…I think these folks are trying to get in front of the growing demand for downloaded video. What would cable companies do if we could download all of our video (TV) content from the internet?

And if “extremely high users” are the villains here, why not punish them via published policies? In the TW case, I think more people will bump against that 40Gb download than you might think at first. And more will going forward with on-demand video….which is *exactly* what I’m sure TW is counting on.

]]> By: christi http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-935443 christi Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:28:43 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-935443 Tim....are you crazy! I think you are. Listen ,in this time and day, more and more people are able to create competition. Very few people are going to put up with this bullying by Time Warner Cable, and they will go to another competition when they find one. Do you really think that most of us are going to put up with that? You must be out of touch with all of the smart chaps now jumping at the chance of inventing competition to Time Warner. Technology is so advanced now,and large corporations are so mistrusted by the public, that someone is going to create a competition that is going to make them a lot of money and basically let Time Warner know that they can not win on this one. Yahoo.com thought that they were the only top dog until Google came around....Myspace thought they were head honcho until Facebook, and so on.... We live in a society where if you can't please the customer, and they see you as ripping them off, there is always another group of people waiting to take your spot and invent the next big thing....so Time Warner cable is not different....there will be a replacement to go along with what we currently have. Get with it, you obviously not on the up and up with current technology advances. Tim….are you crazy! I think you are. Listen ,in this time and day, more and more people are able to create competition. Very few people are going to put up with this bullying by Time Warner Cable, and they will go to another competition when they find one. Do you really think that most of us are going to put up with that? You must be out of touch with all of the smart chaps now jumping at the chance of inventing competition to Time Warner. Technology is so advanced now,and large corporations are so mistrusted by the public, that someone is going to create a competition that is going to make them a lot of money and basically let Time Warner know that they can not win on this one. Yahoo.com thought that they were the only top dog until Google came around….Myspace thought they were head honcho until Facebook, and so on…. We live in a society where if you can’t please the customer, and they see you as ripping them off, there is always another group of people waiting to take your spot and invent the next big thing….so Time Warner cable is not different….there will be a replacement to go along with what we currently have. Get with it, you obviously not on the up and up with current technology advances.

]]> By: Time Warner Cable Expanding Metered Broadband to Austin and San Antonio http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-935182 Time Warner Cable Expanding Metered Broadband to Austin and San Antonio Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:15:48 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-935182 [...] March 31, 2009 | 10:15 PM PT | 0 comments It was only a matter of time before Time Warner Cable expanded its efforts to bring tiered broadband out of the tiny town of Beaumont, Texas. According to BusinessWeek, Time Warner is expanding its trials to San Antonio, Austin, Texas and [...] [...] March 31, 2009 | 10:15 PM PT | 0 comments It was only a matter of time before Time Warner Cable expanded its efforts to bring tiered broadband out of the tiny town of Beaumont, Texas. According to BusinessWeek, Time Warner is expanding its trials to San Antonio, Austin, Texas and [...]

]]> By: BIT RATE » Blog Archive » Is Time Warner Cable Completely Insane?!? http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-928463 BIT RATE » Blog Archive » Is Time Warner Cable Completely Insane?!? Mon, 23 Feb 2009 01:40:45 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-928463 [...] Time Warner Cable Broadband Tiers Lead to Fears ("Is Time Warner Cable crazy?") [...] [...] Time Warner Cable Broadband Tiers Lead to Fears ("Is Time Warner Cable crazy?") [...]

]]> By: Time Warner Results: Cable Demand Takes a Hit http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-924593 Time Warner Results: Cable Demand Takes a Hit Wed, 04 Feb 2009 17:30:48 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-924593 [...] On the conference call, COO Landel Hobbs said Time Warner Cable also plans to expand its metered broadband to more cities this year. I’ve emailed the company get more details, such as the specific [...] [...] On the conference call, COO Landel Hobbs said Time Warner Cable also plans to expand its metered broadband to more cities this year. I’ve emailed the company get more details, such as the specific [...]

]]> By: Cable Markets in New York City Declared Competitive - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-914625 Cable Markets in New York City Declared Competitive - GigaOM Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:11:13 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-914625 [...] real competition. Although, I may be too cynical, as I bet that TWC will find it hard to implement tiered bandwidth when going head-to-head for broadband and cable subscribers with Verizon, which has shown no [...] [...] real competition. Although, I may be too cynical, as I bet that TWC will find it hard to implement tiered bandwidth when going head-to-head for broadband and cable subscribers with Verizon, which has shown no [...]

]]> By: AT&T Trials Tiered Broadband in Nevada - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-910236 AT&T Trials Tiered Broadband in Nevada - GigaOM Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:32:11 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-910236 [...] Time Warner’s caps start at 5 GB per month and stop at 40 GB per month. Frontier’s also start at 5 GB per month, and last week Frontier’s CEO said the company would also offer larger tiers. The filing states that AT&T will also offer customers a meter to show consumers how much bandwidth they have consumed, which is more than Comcast (with its 250 GB cap) or even Time Warner have offered.  AT&T also plans to notify customers when they reach the 80 percent threshold of their tiered plan. Only after the second instance of breaking through the set cap, will customers be charged on a per gigabyte basis. [...] [...] Time Warner’s caps start at 5 GB per month and stop at 40 GB per month. Frontier’s also start at 5 GB per month, and last week Frontier’s CEO said the company would also offer larger tiers. The filing states that AT&T will also offer customers a meter to show consumers how much bandwidth they have consumed, which is more than Comcast (with its 250 GB cap) or even Time Warner have offered.  AT&T also plans to notify customers when they reach the 80 percent threshold of their tiered plan. Only after the second instance of breaking through the set cap, will customers be charged on a per gigabyte basis. [...]

]]> By: Time Warner Cable Talks Last Mile and Bandwidth Caps - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-906387 Time Warner Cable Talks Last Mile and Bandwidth Caps - GigaOM Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:00:04 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-906387 [...] Warner Cable is trialing a metered bandwidth offering in Beaumont, Texas, with tiers of service ranging from 5 GB per month through 40 GB per month. When users reach their [...] [...] Warner Cable is trialing a metered bandwidth offering in Beaumont, Texas, with tiers of service ranging from 5 GB per month through 40 GB per month. When users reach their [...]

]]> By: US ISPs start capping customer bandwidth | scrap ideas http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-898336 US ISPs start capping customer bandwidth | scrap ideas Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:35:44 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-898336 [...] Time Warner Cable is also doing a similar strategy with tiered plans ranging from 5 GB to 40 GB. Bandwidth overage is billed at an additional $1 per 1GB. (This is still an experimental pricing plan on selected areas. - GigaOm) [...] [...] Time Warner Cable is also doing a similar strategy with tiered plans ranging from 5 GB to 40 GB. Bandwidth overage is billed at an additional $1 per 1GB. (This is still an experimental pricing plan on selected areas. – GigaOm) [...]

]]> By: US ISPs start capping Bandwidth | YugaTech | Philippines, Technology News & Reviews http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-896891 US ISPs start capping Bandwidth | YugaTech | Philippines, Technology News & Reviews Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:08:12 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-896891 [...] Time Warner Cable is also doing a similar strategy with tiered plans ranging from 5 GB to 40 GB. Bandwidth overage is billed at an additional $1 per 1GB. (This is still an experimental pricing plan on selected areas. - GigaOm) [...] [...] Time Warner Cable is also doing a similar strategy with tiered plans ranging from 5 GB to 40 GB. Bandwidth overage is billed at an additional $1 per 1GB. (This is still an experimental pricing plan on selected areas. – GigaOm) [...]

]]> By: 10 Things to Know and Hate About Metered Broadband - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-896534 10 Things to Know and Hate About Metered Broadband - GigaOM Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:00:13 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-896534 [...] Warner got the ball rolling back in January, and in June it announced a trial limiting folks to tiers from 5 GB per month to 40 GB per month. Billing began this [...] [...] Warner got the ball rolling back in January, and in June it announced a trial limiting folks to tiers from 5 GB per month to 40 GB per month. Billing began this [...]

]]> By: The GigaOM 250 GB Challenge - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-896425 The GigaOM 250 GB Challenge - GigaOM Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:21:26 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-896425 [...] Comcast announcing a 250 GB cap on its broadband service and Time Warner trialling a tiered service with limits that range from 5 GB to 40 GB, we’ve decided to challenge people to break those [...] [...] Comcast announcing a 250 GB cap on its broadband service and Time Warner trialling a tiered service with limits that range from 5 GB to 40 GB, we’ve decided to challenge people to break those [...]

]]> By: It’s Showtime for Tiered Broadband - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-893185 It’s Showtime for Tiered Broadband - GigaOM Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:00:37 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-893185 [...] grace period is ending for Time Warner Cable customers in Beaumont, Texas, who are part of the ISPs tiered broadband trials. A spokesman for Time Warner Cable declined to comment but confirmed that residents would soon see [...] [...] grace period is ending for Time Warner Cable customers in Beaumont, Texas, who are part of the ISPs tiered broadband trials. A spokesman for Time Warner Cable declined to comment but confirmed that residents would soon see [...]

]]> By: Blocking or Metering: A False Choice - Tiered Broadband Bad, Unlikely « What … ? http://gigaom.com/2008/06/02/time-warner-cable-broadband-tiers-lead-to-fears/#comment-892921 Blocking or Metering: A False Choice - Tiered Broadband Bad, Unlikely « What … ? Sat, 09 Aug 2008 20:51:05 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13639#comment-892921 [...] behavior. And Frontier’s cap seems particularly stupid given that Time Warner hasn’t yet begun implementing a tiered system in Frontier’s region and will offer a cap that exceeds 5 GB if it [...] [...] behavior. And Frontier’s cap seems particularly stupid given that Time Warner hasn’t yet begun implementing a tiered system in Frontier’s region and will offer a cap that exceeds 5 GB if it [...]

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