Comments on: Microsoft Turns To Desktop To Rescue Search

By: Piyush Agarwal

Piyush Agarwal — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:55:09 +0000

@Stephen:
Who said anything was wrong with the headline? That comment of yours further proves you bring nothing to the discussion and are just a mindless non-sensible MS hater (and perhaps hence Gigaom defender). I won’t participate in this thread anymore — I think the point is already made. Adios!

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By: Stephen

Stephen — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:20:47 +0000

@Piyush
Why can’t you look at it objectively without MS’s baggage of baddies done over the last 2-3 decades?

Sure lets ignore history! That has always worked so well, LOL! While we are at it let’s look at the headline “Microsoft Turns To Desktop To Rescue Search” Nothing wrong with this, it is quite factual.

By: jc

jc — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 15:15:48 +0000

yeah, I would love to use my pull and power to push my new software. Only ms can get away with this and live to tell about it. Tell me, who else has that power. Show me one small software (misv) company that has successfully gotten their windows product on an hp, a dell, or any other hardware vendor? Its locked down to the major players only who can pay 25million, or give discounts on seats of the o.s.

By: Technology PR

Technology PR — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:57:37 +0000

“their search product is soooo good” - but other search engines are also equally good these days. For so many years I am adroit fan of Google search but this year I see myself using other search engines when Google does not find what I want. Some times Yahoo finds more perfect matches for my queries.

Also they can’t simply sit even if “their search product is soooo good”. Why would Google go out and do partnership with firfox and indulge in OOH advertising if having a good product is just enough. I think “Monopoly” argument is bit exaggerated here.

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Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:09:14 +0000

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By: Jay Z

Jay Z — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:00:46 +0000

@Piyush
You make a very good point. GigaOm seems to think it’s a hip trend to bash Microsoft and simply regurgitate stories from other blogs or sites (such as All About Microsoft etc). They seem to be drinking the Google and Apple Kool-aid, which is not necessarily a bad thing, however sounds extremely biased. I’m not a MSFT or a Google fanboy, just a blog wanderer, and of late noticed that GigaOm doesn’t seem to offer anything of value except pelt a few “MSFT down” stories.
Sad.

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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:29:02 +0000

@Piyush: correct.
@Om: Please clarify how this is not an amazingly biased post.

By: Piyush Agarwal

Piyush Agarwal — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:49:31 +0000

@Om:
You have quite subtly changed “monopolistic leverage” to “use desktop as a leverage”. It had to buy in — just like Google and Yahoo had to. Did MS get _any_ leverage coz it owns Windows? Nope.

You just _cannot_ use the term monopoly for any and every investment MS makes. Period. Remove the use of that word, and then your post makes perfect sense of using desktop as a leverage (which in this particular case is no different for MS/Google/Yahoo, irrespective of MS owning Windows).

By: Om Malik

Om Malik — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:07:44 +0000

@ Piyush Agarwal

I think you didn’t really read the article before posting your response. What I wrote was precisely what you said - this was a company strategy for the longest time - buy placement or use desktop as a leverage and grow market share. Aka distribution. Google and Yahoo simply out hustled it on that and as a result it caused some problems. Now they are going back to the time-tested strategy that has won market share for them.

By: michael s

michael s — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:20:24 +0000

Dude — they are doing exactly what Google and Yahoo do all the time — pay PC manufactures to set the search as the default — this article represents a significant knowledge gap in the overall search marketplace. I would encourage readers to turn to John Battelle’s Searchblog for a more accurate picture of what is happening in search.

By: Chetan

Chetan — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:57:19 +0000

And in our part(India), HP / Compaq computers are sold with FreeDos OS installed [reduces the price by atleast Rs 2,000]. So this deal makes little sense in our market :-)

As far as consumer empowerment, I really love HP for pushing AMD in India as well as FreeDos and let consumer do what he wants.

By: Piyush Agarwal

Piyush Agarwal — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:06:53 +0000

Just clarifying, am no fanboy or hater of any of the companies involved. Nor do I mean to degrade Om — I just voiced my opinion and made an observation.

Hope you keep your standards up Om, I sincerely hope so!

By: Piyush Agarwal

Piyush Agarwal — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:05:08 +0000

@Jim:
Agreed. On ALL the points. Well said.

@Stephen:
You bleed MS-hatred. If only _you_ were not sleeping, you’ll realize that MS did what *exactly* Google did. Why can’t you look at it objectively without MS’s baggage of baddies done over the last 2-3 decades?

@Impatient:
Yep. Exactly. Gigaom, very unfortunately, feeds into this media-loved David-Goliath trend and MS haters. *Anything* good or bad, if its about MS — stay back, armor on, screaaam, its a monopolistic move. How dumb! Om just fell to a new low atleast IMO.