Comments on: D:Conference: Windows 7 First Look. Bill Gates Finally Funny http://gigaom.com/2008/05/27/windows-all-things-d/ The Business of Technology Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:28:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Touch Feels Its Way Into Computing - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/05/27/windows-all-things-d/#comment-883117 Touch Feels Its Way Into Computing - GigaOM Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:30:25 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=13580#comment-883117 [...] June 10, 2008 at 5:30 PM PT Comments (0) Years from now, will we look back at the iPhone and touch-enabled Windows 7 and blame them for the thin film of muck covering our screens and the thick layer of skin on our [...] [...] June 10, 2008 at 5:30 PM PT Comments (0) Years from now, will we look back at the iPhone and touch-enabled Windows 7 and blame them for the thin film of muck covering our screens and the thick layer of skin on our [...]

]]> By: D:Conference: Windows 7 First Look. Bill Gates Finally Funny | Om Malik | Voices | AllThingsD http://gigaom.com/2008/05/27/windows-all-things-d/#comment-880788 D:Conference: Windows 7 First Look. Bill Gates Finally Funny | Om Malik | Voices | AllThingsD Thu, 29 May 2008 16:24:05 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=13580#comment-880788 [...] Read the rest of this post Print all_things_di220:http://voices.allthingsd.com/20080529/dconference-windows-7-first-look-bill-gates-finally-funny/ Sphere Comment Tagged: Om Malik, GigaOm, Voices, Steve Ballmer, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs | permalink [...] [...] Read the rest of this post Print all_things_di220:http://voices.allthingsd.com/20080529/dconference-windows-7-first-look-bill-gates-finally-funny/ Sphere Comment Tagged: Om Malik, GigaOm, Voices, Steve Ballmer, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs | permalink [...]

]]> By: Lionheart http://gigaom.com/2008/05/27/windows-all-things-d/#comment-880686 Lionheart Thu, 29 May 2008 03:17:27 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=13580#comment-880686 I loved the map presentation and that specific software, but the demo itself isn´t offering anything new. I loved the map presentation and that specific software, but the demo itself isn´t offering anything new.

]]> By: ronald http://gigaom.com/2008/05/27/windows-all-things-d/#comment-880607 ronald Wed, 28 May 2008 19:15:20 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=13580#comment-880607 Ok, as usual I don't get it. Let's take a step back and see what's going on, and see if I can explain it in a few sentences. Is the brain good at processing patterns or following rules? If you agree on processing patterns, read on. Otherwise, good luck. If they brain is good at processing patterns what makes us think, we store rules in a program fashioned for a rule based engine (CPU)? Or how come we can learn "all" for Apples and can immediately apply it to Oranges. Well it's because the brain actually creates different "models" for the same view, rules in general are abstract models. This is also the case for something less abstract like say, Google's big table. Guessing here based on the little we know about. Not that Google even realizes how to put it into a bigger picture. I use the term model to link to the good old MVC (Model View Controller) abstraction. The problem I see with Microsoft is that they use one model and slap different views and controllers on it. And a multi-touch requires a different view then a mouse, keyboard driven application. Hence it will get really confusing really fast, as usual for Microsoft applications. Why does it work on the IPhone or why does touch work on my in-car navigation system? No keyboard, no mouse, one model (really dumb system). Which makes it simple and easy to use. So who is better at it, Google or Apple? My guess is Apple, looks to me like Google got lucky one time. While somebody at Apple seems to understand it intuitively. Microsoft just stumbles along, without getting lucky or understanding the basics of things they are copying. BTW I use Linux, because good old Unix got a lot of things right, right from the start. Ok, as usual I don’t get it.
Let’s take a step back and see what’s going on, and see if I can explain it in a few sentences.

Is the brain good at processing patterns or following rules?
If you agree on processing patterns, read on. Otherwise, good luck.

If they brain is good at processing patterns what makes us think, we store rules in a program fashioned for a rule based engine (CPU)?

Or how come we can learn “all” for Apples and can immediately apply it to Oranges.
Well it’s because the brain actually creates different “models” for the same view, rules in general are abstract models.

This is also the case for something less abstract like say, Google’s big table. Guessing here based on the little we know about. Not that Google even realizes how to put it into a bigger picture.

I use the term model to link to the good old MVC (Model View Controller) abstraction. The problem I see with Microsoft is that they use one model and slap different views and controllers on it. And a multi-touch requires a different view then a mouse, keyboard driven application. Hence it will get really confusing really fast, as usual for Microsoft applications.

Why does it work on the IPhone or why does touch work on my in-car navigation system? No keyboard, no mouse, one model (really dumb system). Which makes it simple and easy to use.

So who is better at it, Google or Apple? My guess is Apple, looks to me like Google got lucky one time. While somebody at Apple seems to understand it intuitively. Microsoft just stumbles along, without getting lucky or understanding the basics of things they are copying.

BTW I use Linux, because good old Unix got a lot of things right, right from the start.

]]> By: ericabiz http://gigaom.com/2008/05/27/windows-all-things-d/#comment-880598 ericabiz Wed, 28 May 2008 18:10:27 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=13580#comment-880598 I wonder if the multi-touch thing is in part to make us assume there isn't much innovative in Windows 7...when they could potentially wheel out the big guns and surprise us all next year. I could be wrong, but I doubt multi-touch will be the biggest innovation in Windows 7. I bet there is a lot more they aren't telling us. No harm in telling us about multi-touch because it's already in other products. I wonder if the multi-touch thing is in part to make us assume there isn’t much innovative in Windows 7…when they could potentially wheel out the big guns and surprise us all next year.

I could be wrong, but I doubt multi-touch will be the biggest innovation in Windows 7. I bet there is a lot more they aren’t telling us. No harm in telling us about multi-touch because it’s already in other products.

]]> By: Jim Connolly http://gigaom.com/2008/05/27/windows-all-things-d/#comment-880565 Jim Connolly Wed, 28 May 2008 14:45:09 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=13580#comment-880565 Another superb article Om, I found it AMAZING that so many people missed one of the most important statements of the day! It was made at the reception before the 'big show,' when Bill Gates made it clear what his goals are, regarding the search business. I blogged it this morning at TheTechNewsBlog.Com When Microsoft announced their plans to attack Google's market dominance using 'cash back,' I thought they had closed the door on innovation. It now seems I was wrong - at least I hope I am. Jim Connolly TheTechNewsBlog.com Another superb article Om,

I found it AMAZING that so many people missed one of the most important statements of the day! It was made at the reception before the ‘big show,’ when Bill Gates made it clear what his goals are, regarding the search business. I blogged it this morning at TheTechNewsBlog.Com

When Microsoft announced their plans to attack Google’s market dominance using ‘cash back,’ I thought they had closed the door on innovation. It now seems I was wrong - at least I hope I am.

Jim Connolly
TheTechNewsBlog.com

]]> By: Windows 7 First Look. Bill Gates Finally Funny « YaGooSoft http://gigaom.com/2008/05/27/windows-all-things-d/#comment-880551 Windows 7 First Look. Bill Gates Finally Funny « YaGooSoft Wed, 28 May 2008 13:34:47 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=13580#comment-880551 [...] Windows 7 First Look. Bill Gates Finally Funny From Om Malik & GigaOm at the D:Conference [...] [...] Windows 7 First Look. Bill Gates Finally Funny From Om Malik & GigaOm at the D:Conference [...]

]]> By: Liz http://gigaom.com/2008/05/27/windows-all-things-d/#comment-880508 Liz Wed, 28 May 2008 09:34:51 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=13580#comment-880508 I look forward to your updates! I look forward to your updates!

]]> By: sachin http://gigaom.com/2008/05/27/windows-all-things-d/#comment-880489 sachin Wed, 28 May 2008 07:19:57 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=13580#comment-880489 Microsoft is always trying to beat Apple (Flop_Zune), Google (Dematerialized_Yahoo), but always falls head down and Window 7 - My personal feeling is that will wipe out MS from the market. Microsoft is always trying to beat Apple (Flop_Zune), Google (Dematerialized_Yahoo), but always falls head down and Window 7 - My personal feeling is that will wipe out MS from the market.

]]> By: Incremental Blogger » Blog Archive » Windows 7 to support multi-touch http://gigaom.com/2008/05/27/windows-all-things-d/#comment-880469 Incremental Blogger » Blog Archive » Windows 7 to support multi-touch Wed, 28 May 2008 05:30:18 +0000 http://gigaom.wordpress.com/?p=13580#comment-880469 [...] GigaOm: “I think if you have used iPod Touch, iPhone and Coverflow, you are not going to be as wow-ed by multi-touch, but I have to admit, that even in its rudimentary form, it looked pretty darn good.” [...] [...] GigaOm: “I think if you have used iPod Touch, iPhone and Coverflow, you are not going to be as wow-ed by multi-touch, but I have to admit, that even in its rudimentary form, it looked pretty darn good.” [...]

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