Comments on: In London, a Glimpse of a Broadband Future http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:11:10 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: links for 2008-06-15 « David Black http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-883769 links for 2008-06-15 « David Black Sun, 15 Jun 2008 02:35:25 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-883769 <p>[...] In London, a Glimpse of a Broadband Future - GigaOM “In London: 40 percent of people watch TV or video content online. 20 percent make VoIP calls. 32 percent are using their mobile phones to access the Internet. 19 percent listen to audio content on their mobiles.” (tags: internet technology broadband wife voip mobile multimedia music stats trends london) [...]</p> [...] In London, a Glimpse of a Broadband Future – GigaOM “In London: 40 percent of people watch TV or video content online. 20 percent make VoIP calls. 32 percent are using their mobile phones to access the Internet. 19 percent listen to audio content on their mobiles.” (tags: internet technology broadband wife voip mobile multimedia music stats trends london) [...]

]]> By: London Is Wired? | Wombat Diet http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-881829 London Is Wired? | Wombat Diet Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:00:19 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-881829 <p>[...] London is said to be a very wired place where the broadband future can be glimpsed. Somehow, I feel it hasn’t quite arrived [...]</p> [...] London is said to be a very wired place where the broadband future can be glimpsed. Somehow, I feel it hasn’t quite arrived [...]

]]> By: Colin http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-881607 Colin Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:19:58 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-881607 <p>I can confirm the O2 deal - I switched over to it 1 month ago and am now getting 10.5Mbps throughput (about 40Gb per month limit) for £15 a month via ADSL2+ (would be £10 a month if I also has an O2 mobile phone).</p> <p>However, this is getting towards the limit of what copper telephone lines can achieve unless you live right next door to the exchange. The only way we'll get faster in the future is if cable TV networks are improved (cable TV is minimal in the UK compared to the USA) or if the operators start installing fibre into homes. '4G' wireless networks (e.g. WiMAX) are also some time off.</p> I can confirm the O2 deal – I switched over to it 1 month ago and am now getting 10.5Mbps throughput (about 40Gb per month limit) for £15 a month via ADSL2+ (would be £10 a month if I also has an O2 mobile phone).

However, this is getting towards the limit of what copper telephone lines can achieve unless you live right next door to the exchange. The only way we’ll get faster in the future is if cable TV networks are improved (cable TV is minimal in the UK compared to the USA) or if the operators start installing fibre into homes. ‘4G’ wireless networks (e.g. WiMAX) are also some time off.

]]> By: Get More Travelers Blog » In London, a Glimpse of a Broadband Future http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-881500 Get More Travelers Blog » In London, a Glimpse of a Broadband Future Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:23:33 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-881500 <p>[...] Some interesting stats on how consumer behavior changes with bandwidth. This is even more proof that the format of content your customer is looking for is changing. The ones that are going to win are the ones taking action now. London is one of those few fortunate cities to have a surfeit of telecom competition. From broadband providers to mobile operators, Londoners have a choice. They have decent broadband speeds as well as access to Wi-Fi and 3G networks. And as a result, there has been a big change in their behavior. A new report from Ofcom outlines how Londoners (and the rest of the UK) are using these new wireless and broadband services. It’s a great example of how consumer behavior changes with bandwidth. In London: * 40 percent of people watch TV or video content online. * 20 percent make VoIP calls. * 32 percent are using their mobile phones to access the Internet. * 19 percent listen to audio content on their mobiles. Link [...]</p> [...] Some interesting stats on how consumer behavior changes with bandwidth. This is even more proof that the format of content your customer is looking for is changing. The ones that are going to win are the ones taking action now. London is one of those few fortunate cities to have a surfeit of telecom competition. From broadband providers to mobile operators, Londoners have a choice. They have decent broadband speeds as well as access to Wi-Fi and 3G networks. And as a result, there has been a big change in their behavior. A new report from Ofcom outlines how Londoners (and the rest of the UK) are using these new wireless and broadband services. It’s a great example of how consumer behavior changes with bandwidth. In London: * 40 percent of people watch TV or video content online. * 20 percent make VoIP calls. * 32 percent are using their mobile phones to access the Internet. * 19 percent listen to audio content on their mobiles. Link [...]

]]> By: BobCFC http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-881204 BobCFC Sat, 31 May 2008 21:44:10 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-881204 <p>I switched to Be Unlimited, which is owned now by O2 so I think it uses the same network. They have their own equipement at the exchange, they do not just sublet BT bandwith, so are able to offer better speeds/value</p> <p>I am getting 24mbps ADSL2+ over normal copper wires in a block of flats(apartment) for £18 a month (35dollars)</p> <p>When you can download 2megabytes per second with no monthly cap on gigabytes your lifestyle changes. I am in the process of cancelling my satellite TV subscription.</p> I switched to Be Unlimited, which is owned now by O2 so I think it uses the same network. They have their own equipement at the exchange, they do not just sublet BT bandwith, so are able to offer better speeds/value

I am getting 24mbps ADSL2+ over normal copper wires in a block of flats(apartment) for £18 a month (35dollars)

When you can download 2megabytes per second with no monthly cap on gigabytes your lifestyle changes. I am in the process of cancelling my satellite TV subscription.

]]> By: Connected London : Kzero http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-880826 Connected London : Kzero Thu, 29 May 2008 21:15:02 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-880826 <p>[...] Malik over on Gigaom is referencing a recent Ofcom report (The Nations & Regions Communications Market 2008 May) in [...]</p> [...] Malik over on Gigaom is referencing a recent Ofcom report (The Nations & Regions Communications Market 2008 May) in [...]

]]> By: In London, a Glimpse of a Broadband Future « Chronicles of Alva http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-880596 In London, a Glimpse of a Broadband Future « Chronicles of Alva Wed, 28 May 2008 17:59:28 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-880596 <p>[...] read more | digg story   [...]</p> [...] read more | digg story   [...]

]]> By: jimconnolly http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-880585 jimconnolly Wed, 28 May 2008 17:11:24 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-880585 <p>@phil,</p> <p>Thanks for the heads-up on the 02 deal - never seen that advertised and can't find it on their website either. I am an 02 phone user, so it would have been a natural choice for me. BTW: Their sales staff never heard of it either! Perhaps that says something about 02 sales support?</p> <p>Some great comments here - Om gets some very informed readers. Hopefully my new blog will do the same at www.thetechnewsblog.com</p> <p>Thanks</p> <p>Jim Connolly TheTechNewsBlog.com</p> @phil,

Thanks for the heads-up on the 02 deal – never seen that advertised and can’t find it on their website either. I am an 02 phone user, so it would have been a natural choice for me. BTW: Their sales staff never heard of it either! Perhaps that says something about 02 sales support?

Some great comments here – Om gets some very informed readers. Hopefully my new blog will do the same at http://www.thetechnewsblog.com

Thanks

Jim Connolly TheTechNewsBlog.com

]]> By: Tom http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-880573 Tom Wed, 28 May 2008 15:48:29 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-880573 <p>Interesting, except we recently had a report detailing how our entire broadband infrastructure was not capable of handling all the demands being placed on it. Infact they were showcasing the networks available on continental Europe.</p> Interesting, except we recently had a report detailing how our entire broadband infrastructure was not capable of handling all the demands being placed on it. Infact they were showcasing the networks available on continental Europe.

]]> By: Computerden http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-880569 Computerden Wed, 28 May 2008 15:29:29 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-880569 <p>as long as our lines are running through bt exchanges, the quality of these things will remain pretty poor</p> as long as our lines are running through bt exchanges, the quality of these things will remain pretty poor

]]> By: Georgio http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-880545 Georgio Wed, 28 May 2008 13:03:32 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-880545 <p>In the UK we have many broadband packages to choose from but 99% of them don't deliver what they promise. I have an 8mb line with Virgin Media and my average download speed is around 70kb/s. In my opinion we're going backwards, not forwards.</p> <p>When BT first introduced 512k Broadband about 5-6 years ago my line speed was far quicker. Where's the sense in that?</p> <p>These broadband providers should not be allowed to advertise speeds they cannot deliver. Airlines are not allowed to do it when selling cheap air tickets so why the hell do Broadband providers get away with it?</p> In the UK we have many broadband packages to choose from but 99% of them don’t deliver what they promise. I have an 8mb line with Virgin Media and my average download speed is around 70kb/s. In my opinion we’re going backwards, not forwards.

When BT first introduced 512k Broadband about 5-6 years ago my line speed was far quicker. Where’s the sense in that?

These broadband providers should not be allowed to advertise speeds they cannot deliver. Airlines are not allowed to do it when selling cheap air tickets so why the hell do Broadband providers get away with it?

]]> By: Phil http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-880528 Phil Wed, 28 May 2008 11:57:49 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-880528 <p>@ jimconnolly</p> <p>I have unlimited 16meg broadband from O2 for only £15 month (or £30 if you don't have an O2 mobile). The service is excellent and I think they offer an unlimited mobile service as well (albeit with their iPhone package and therefore at present, sllooowww EDGE, not 3G).</p> <p>You just need to shop around and you can find great deals.</p> @ jimconnolly

I have unlimited 16meg broadband from O2 for only £15 month (or £30 if you don’t have an O2 mobile). The service is excellent and I think they offer an unlimited mobile service as well (albeit with their iPhone package and therefore at present, sllooowww EDGE, not 3G).

You just need to shop around and you can find great deals.

]]> By: SilentUK http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-880520 SilentUK Wed, 28 May 2008 11:20:37 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-880520 <p>What is missing here is the fact that the broadband speeds in the UK are nothing compared to what's being advertised. Only 12% of customers are getting te advertised speed. I myself pay $60 a month for a 8 MBPS connection only to receive 2,4 - 3,4 MBPS which is simply unacceptable. I don't care if they say "UP TO 8mpbs" because that's BS. There was another report released recently about what british telecom comapnies have decided. The decided there is NO NEED to upgrade the comms system!!!</p> What is missing here is the fact that the broadband speeds in the UK are nothing compared to what’s being advertised. Only 12% of customers are getting te advertised speed. I myself pay $60 a month for a 8 MBPS connection only to receive 2,4 – 3,4 MBPS which is simply unacceptable. I don’t care if they say “UP TO 8mpbs” because that’s BS. There was another report released recently about what british telecom comapnies have decided. The decided there is NO NEED to upgrade the comms system!!!

]]> By: Gerard http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-880517 Gerard Wed, 28 May 2008 10:48:26 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-880517 <p>£28 for 50 gig... that's pretty cheap. Try South Africa.... a 512kbp line with a 3 gig cap costs R479 (£31 or $62)... On top of that, they also shape your traffic. Unshaped costs extra - R652 (£42 or $85)</p> £28 for 50 gig… that’s pretty cheap. Try South Africa…. a 512kbp line with a 3 gig cap costs R479 (£31 or $62)… On top of that, they also shape your traffic. Unshaped costs extra – R652 (£42 or $85)

]]> By: In London, a Glimpse of a Broadband Future http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-880516 In London, a Glimpse of a Broadband Future Wed, 28 May 2008 10:25:37 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-880516 <p>[...] as access to Wi-Fi and 3G networks. And as a result, there has been a big change in their behavior.read more | digg [...]</p> [...] as access to Wi-Fi and 3G networks. And as a result, there has been a big change in their behavior.read more | digg [...]

]]> By: Steve http://gigaom.com/2008/05/26/in-london-a-glimpse-of-a-broadband-future/#comment-880515 Steve Wed, 28 May 2008 10:15:40 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13571#comment-880515 <p>Speaking as a Londoner, I can confirm that there are plenty of providers, each with enough packages to cater for just about everybody. Personally, I have an uncapped 8MB ADSL line at home (and I do actually get the full 8MB), which is more expensive than the smaller capacity / capped options, because I often download Linux ISOs - I couldn't tell you how much it costs exactly as the cost is bundled up with my line rental and I don't have a bill to hand. Out and about I have a SE K800i on three's (mobile provider) 3G network with a 5 GBP / month plan for 1GB of data - since I only browse the odd website and read a few RSS feeds I generally only get through 30Mb or so of data in a month. I have been giving some though to switching over to 3G at home too, but I think I'd miss the extra capacity of the wired ADSL.</p> Speaking as a Londoner, I can confirm that there are plenty of providers, each with enough packages to cater for just about everybody. Personally, I have an uncapped 8MB ADSL line at home (and I do actually get the full 8MB), which is more expensive than the smaller capacity / capped options, because I often download Linux ISOs – I couldn’t tell you how much it costs exactly as the cost is bundled up with my line rental and I don’t have a bill to hand. Out and about I have a SE K800i on three’s (mobile provider) 3G network with a 5 GBP / month plan for 1GB of data – since I only browse the odd website and read a few RSS feeds I generally only get through 30Mb or so of data in a month. I have been giving some though to switching over to 3G at home too, but I think I’d miss the extra capacity of the wired ADSL.

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