Comments on: Sprint’s Xohm and Backhaul Bottleneck http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/ The Business of Technology Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:11:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Xohm WiMax Finally Gets Going with Limited Service - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/#comment-902067 Xohm WiMax Finally Gets Going with Limited Service - GigaOM Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:44:39 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13294#comment-902067 [...] Higginbotham, Monday, September 29, 2008 at 6:40 AM PT Comments (0) After six months of waiting and few leaked launch dates, Sprint launched commercial availability for its Xohm WiMax network in [...] [...] Higginbotham, Monday, September 29, 2008 at 6:40 AM PT Comments (0) After six months of waiting and few leaked launch dates, Sprint launched commercial availability for its Xohm WiMax network in [...]

]]> By: » Boston, Philly, Dallas next for Sprint’s WiMax Sidecut Reports http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/#comment-896253 » Boston, Philly, Dallas next for Sprint’s WiMax Sidecut Reports Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:09:57 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13294#comment-896253 [...] to West, Sprint has solved just about all the problems it had faced earlier in getting the right amount of backhaul services to WiMax towers, in part by adopting some of the microwave-backhaul techniques of its imminent [...] [...] to West, Sprint has solved just about all the problems it had faced earlier in getting the right amount of backhaul services to WiMax towers, in part by adopting some of the microwave-backhaul techniques of its imminent [...]

]]> By: » What’s Next for the New Clearwire? Sidecut Reports http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/#comment-878581 » What’s Next for the New Clearwire? Sidecut Reports Fri, 16 May 2008 00:06:21 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13294#comment-878581 [...] launch,” and lame excuses like not figuring out how to get enough microwave engineers or backhaul into towers weren’t cutting it. Now there are some valid excuses for pushing soft launches back a few [...] [...] launch,” and lame excuses like not figuring out how to get enough microwave engineers or backhaul into towers weren’t cutting it. Now there are some valid excuses for pushing soft launches back a few [...]

]]> By: » AT&T: Our 3G Goes to Eleven Sidecut Reports http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/#comment-878381 » AT&T: Our 3G Goes to Eleven Sidecut Reports Wed, 14 May 2008 19:00:17 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13294#comment-878381 [...] if any hardware modifications to the company’s infrastructure,” there has been widespread questioning of late whether or not network providers have sufficient backhaul to supply the wireless-data [...] [...] if any hardware modifications to the company’s infrastructure,” there has been widespread questioning of late whether or not network providers have sufficient backhaul to supply the wireless-data [...]

]]> By: Mobile Back Haul Equals Big Money Opportunity - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/#comment-878080 Mobile Back Haul Equals Big Money Opportunity - GigaOM Tue, 13 May 2008 05:47:55 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13294#comment-878080 [...] has issued a report which forecasts 4.4 billion mobile subscribers worldwide by 2011, and their needs will push the demand for wireless backhaul equipment to over $10 billion by that year. Infonetics predicts [...] [...] has issued a report which forecasts 4.4 billion mobile subscribers worldwide by 2011, and their needs will push the demand for wireless backhaul equipment to over $10 billion by that year. Infonetics predicts [...]

]]> By: Fonearama » Sprint, Clearwire Mull $12 Billion Joint-“Miserable Failure” http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/#comment-877174 Fonearama » Sprint, Clearwire Mull $12 Billion Joint-“Miserable Failure” Wed, 07 May 2008 02:41:14 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13294#comment-877174 [...] said, the deal is not without its problems–top among them WiMax itself. As Craig Moffett, an analyst with Bernstein Research, explained in a note to clients earlier this [...] [...] said, the deal is not without its problems–top among them WiMax itself. As Craig Moffett, an analyst with Bernstein Research, explained in a note to clients earlier this [...]

]]> By: Sprint, Clearwire Mull $12 Billion Joint-”Miserable Failure” | John Paczkowski | Digital Daily | AllThingsD http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/#comment-877149 Sprint, Clearwire Mull $12 Billion Joint-”Miserable Failure” | John Paczkowski | Digital Daily | AllThingsD Tue, 06 May 2008 23:12:43 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13294#comment-877149 [...] said, the deal is not without its problems–top among them WiMax itself. As Craig Moffett, an analyst with Bernstein Research, explained in a research note to clients [...] [...] said, the deal is not without its problems–top among them WiMax itself. As Craig Moffett, an analyst with Bernstein Research, explained in a research note to clients [...]

]]> By: techboy2000 http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/#comment-876613 techboy2000 Sat, 03 May 2008 04:36:13 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13294#comment-876613 Business is so strange today. Math and due diligence seems passé. Each base station usually has a couple stinking T1s for backhaul (Not good enough for WiMax broadband). The upgrade will be: Expensive Will take a long time to provision the new backhaul lines Will require configuration (more time delay) Ok, now we have our network up and enormous new costs but NO CUSTOMERS. Adding a handful of business customers with WiMax laptop data cards will not pay for the network. You still need a lot of handsets on the network. I have not seen a single WiMax handset. Solution: Beg Verizon to buy Sprint Fire the employees/consultants that created the farcical spreadsheets showing WiMax short term profitability Fire management that believed the spreadsheets Hire a new outside management team who can actually implement the transfer of Nextel customers to Sprint Punt and go to LTE in a few years Business is so strange today. Math and due diligence seems passé.

Each base station usually has a couple stinking T1s for backhaul (Not good enough for WiMax broadband).
The upgrade will be:
Expensive
Will take a long time to provision the new backhaul lines
Will require configuration (more time delay)

Ok, now we have our network up and enormous new costs but NO CUSTOMERS. Adding a handful of business customers with WiMax laptop data cards will not pay for the network. You still need a lot of handsets on the network. I have not seen a single WiMax handset.

Solution:
Beg Verizon to buy Sprint
Fire the employees/consultants that created the farcical spreadsheets showing WiMax short term profitability
Fire management that believed the spreadsheets
Hire a new outside management team who can actually implement the transfer of Nextel customers to Sprint
Punt and go to LTE in a few years

]]> By: Markus Goebel's Tech News Comments http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/#comment-876563 Markus Goebel's Tech News Comments Fri, 02 May 2008 19:16:40 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13294#comment-876563 I find T-Mobile's idea to simply connect several DSL lines to cell phone towers quite nifty. They are experimenting with that for some months already here in Germany. After all they have plenty of DSL bandwith because they belong to Deutsche Telekom. Of course DSL is asynchronous, but the download speed is always more important. Also on cell phones. I find T-Mobile’s idea to simply connect several DSL lines to cell phone towers quite nifty. They are experimenting with that for some months already here in Germany. After all they have plenty of DSL bandwith because they belong to Deutsche Telekom.

Of course DSL is asynchronous, but the download speed is always more important. Also on cell phones.

]]> By: Brandon Wirtz http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/#comment-876557 Brandon Wirtz Fri, 02 May 2008 18:46:16 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13294#comment-876557 As the TCP convergence happens, you are going to see that guy with the fattest pipe in the most places will win. The thing that worries me is the digital divide between people who live in wired neighborhoods and those who don't. Soon the economic, and educational divide will widen between those who live in places that have the infrastructure and those who don't. (and I live in a place that doesn't). http://www.takingthebridge.com/2008/05/responses/sprints-xohm-disadvantage-in-wimax-race/ As the TCP convergence happens, you are going to see that guy with the fattest pipe in the most places will win. The thing that worries me is the digital divide between people who live in wired neighborhoods and those who don’t. Soon the economic, and educational divide will widen between those who live in places that have the infrastructure and those who don’t. (and I live in a place that doesn’t).

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]]> By: Taking the Bridge » Sprint’s Xohm disadvantage in WiMax race http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/#comment-876556 Taking the Bridge » Sprint’s Xohm disadvantage in WiMax race Fri, 02 May 2008 18:44:53 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13294#comment-876556 [...] I agree with Om Malik,  selling backhaul bandwidth to Cellular providers who don’t have Pop’s in a given neighborhood will be big business, and selling shovels to gold diggers is always a safe bet.  But I think Sprint is the biggest player who is going to need this service, They just need to buy Comcast, or RCN or both, or the other way around. [...] [...] I agree with Om Malik,  selling backhaul bandwidth to Cellular providers who don’t have Pop’s in a given neighborhood will be big business, and selling shovels to gold diggers is always a safe bet.  But I think Sprint is the biggest player who is going to need this service, They just need to buy Comcast, or RCN or both, or the other way around. [...]

]]> By: Dan Jones http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/#comment-876551 Dan Jones Fri, 02 May 2008 17:57:22 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13294#comment-876551 Hey, its going to be interesting to watch this issue as 4G (slowly) gets deployed. Everything I've seen so far suggests that AT&T and VRZN's 4G markets will follow their U-Verse and FIOS markets respectively, although how exactly they deal with really dense urban cellsite deployments will be intriguing. There's plenty more reporting to be done before we get to that stage though. Cheers, Dan Jones Site Editor, Unstrung Hey, its going to be interesting to watch this issue as 4G (slowly) gets deployed. Everything I’ve seen so far suggests that AT&T and VRZN’s 4G markets will follow their U-Verse and FIOS markets respectively, although how exactly they deal with really dense urban cellsite deployments will be intriguing. There’s plenty more reporting to be done before we get to that stage though.

Cheers,

Dan Jones
Site Editor, Unstrung

]]> By: fluxam http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/#comment-876546 fluxam Fri, 02 May 2008 17:10:59 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13294#comment-876546 "biggest bottleneck" -- that means wider = MORE bandwidth. ;P “biggest bottleneck” — that means wider = MORE bandwidth.
;P

]]> By: Alan Wilensky http://gigaom.com/2008/05/02/sprints-xohm-and-backhaul-bottleneck/#comment-876530 Alan Wilensky Fri, 02 May 2008 14:55:27 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=13294#comment-876530 Well, there is also flex bandwidth management, but most of the SLCs and multiplexers already do that. You can steal and allocate between data channels and the voice channels. this is why new systems sound horrible compared to the first analog systems, and much worse than old IMTS. It's amazing what the LEC can do with dynamic allocation. But, in the end, most of the T1 /PRI circuits made for cell site backhaul will be too narrow. some of MAN wireless solutions are great for this. Well, there is also flex bandwidth management, but most of the SLCs and multiplexers already do that. You can steal and allocate between data channels and the voice channels. this is why new systems sound horrible compared to the first analog systems, and much worse than old IMTS.

It’s amazing what the LEC can do with dynamic allocation. But, in the end, most of the T1 /PRI circuits made for cell site backhaul will be too narrow. some of MAN wireless solutions are great for this.

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