Comments on: Shocking: New Facts About P2P and Broadband Usage

By: Welcome to Slide Studios » Blog Archive » Metered Internet coming to a modem near you!

Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:14:16 +0000

[...] portions of their bandwidth and online video consumption is beginning to consumer a greater amount (although actual data is confusing on this topic). Bottom line, their networks were simply not designed to handle the traffic. Attempts to filter [...]

By: 10% des utilisateurs Internet prennent les 80% de la bande passante haut débit disponible - Gizmodo - Tant d'amour pour ces fabuleux nouveaux gadgets, c'est surnaturel.

Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:35:24 +0000

[...] Même si le P2P n’est plus le vilain fantôme qu’on peut agiter avant l’effondrement d’internet sur lui-même, la FCC américaine veut tout de même obliger les FAI à révéler leurs politiques secrètes de ralentissement des réseaux P2P ainsi que leurs véritables chiffres de trafic, pour le meilleur ou pour le pire. [GigaOM] [...]

By: Brian

Brian — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:48:25 +0000

Bt considers 100 gig a month to be the max for an unlimited account
…
100 gig a month works out _ 1 month = 30.4368499 days = 3.2854911177913979856371404584809 gigs/pd (unlimated LMAO)
A 6 meg connection will do that in less than a hour if used well …..

By: House Investigates Calls for “Net Neutrality” by Cord Blomquist

Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:05:21 +0000

[...] Recent reports lend further credence to claims that P2P traffic is a major culprit behind network congestion. According to AT&T, in three years time, 20 typical households will consume as much bandwidth as the entire Internet does today. Between price increases, bandwidth caps, and protocol discrimination, it is far from clear which course of action to deal with this flood of information will be best for average users. But by abolishing network management techniques that target specific applications, ISPs will have fewer options to deal with overloads. [...]

By: Are the cable guys throttling to stifle streaming video? |

Are the cable guys throttling to stifle streaming video? | — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:35:31 +0000

[...] And as we all know, despite the industry’s constant invocation of the P2P bogeyman, at present, the largest bandwidth hog is actually streaming video. Clearly, the emergence of online video is something that cable video providers find very [...]

By: Why Tiered Broadband Is the Enemy of Innovation - GigaOM

Why Tiered Broadband Is the Enemy of Innovation - GigaOM — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 11:59:30 +0000

[...] As for consumers, the cable companies have evoked the P2P bogeyman. I spoke with Time Warner spokesperson Alex Dudley, who claimed that some 5 percent of its user base abuses its network through the use of P2P, causing problems for the remaining subscribers. “Video is the most bandwidth-intensive use right now, and it is not people that go to iTunes but instead it is P2P which sucks bandwidth in the system,” he said. There are some questions about that claim. [...]

By: Blog Stats — « Missing the point?

Blog Stats — « Missing the point? — Sun, 25 May 2008 15:50:57 +0000

[...] http://gigaom.com/2008/04/22/shocking-new-facts-about-p2p-and-broadband-usage/ Here’s an interview of Arbor Networks CTO Danny McPherson. Arbor Networks makes network management and traffic shaping tools for the ISPs so he has interesting data on bandwidth usage. [...]

By: Peter

Peter — Fri, 16 May 2008 20:31:21 +0000

There’s one line in this that bugs me a little: “Http still makes up the majority of the total traffic….” OK, so does HTTP represent a 51% majority according to MacPherson? Or 65%? Or 74%. If P2P is 20% and let’s assume everything else (e.g., non-http video, Voip,etc.) is 10 %, then could HTTP be 70%? I’d be grateful for any clarification.

Thanks, Om.

By: Mr. Whatever

Mr. Whatever — Thu, 15 May 2008 08:24:35 +0000

I watched the show on tivo and tracked down the story online to comment. If broadband company’s are going to advertise their service as “UNLIMITED”, just as dial up subscribers used to with the number of minutes you could be connected, then I think it should be unlimited in the sense of the word. if you don’t want certain types of traffic and usage, be upfront about it, and I will move to a different provider. ( and lets start upping the availability of more providers than just 2 to increase some competition here.) I think its just more whining from the cable provider because if everyone just used 10% of the available bandwidth then conversely there would be 90% left to be doled out to new subscribers by the Comcast gods .. whatever! and 10 plus 80 = 90 .. 10% headroom .. and did they do over long period studys to see if different users where “sucking” bandwith and then backing down?

By: Canadian Watchdog Seeks Bell Privacy Probe - GigaOM

Canadian Watchdog Seeks Bell Privacy Probe - GigaOM — Tue, 13 May 2008 15:48:36 +0000

[...] of Ottawa legal clinic, accuses the firm of using deep packet inspection tools to determine what customers are doing with their Internet connections and then blocking traffic, such as that of BitTorrent. O, Bell Canada, following in the footsteps [...]

By: Victor Blake

Victor Blake — Fri, 02 May 2008 14:46:18 +0000

I think it’s impossible to do justice on coverage of the topic in this short form. Many of the points made here are correct. Such as “what percentage” at “what time of day” or “upstream vs. downstream.” Like most statistics they can be manipulated to send a message that one wants to be sent. One thing is certain, no matter how you spin the numbers P2P applications are not the issue. Unattended applications are the issue. Basically the networks are desired for people to use them, not for machines to automatically do lots of stuff. When that starts happening, a single computer can be capable of creating more traffic than many many subscribers. Most of the Acceptable Use Policies (AUP) prohibit server functions on broadband residential. Many (but not all) of the P2P apps, mimmick that behavior acting as servers. And again, no matter how you spin the stats, it is true that some people abuse that shared resource and it DOES affect others. People do notice and do not like it.

Although I do not run P2P apps 24×7, I ocassionally use Pando to share large projects. I personally opted to pay my ISP $245/month (WiMax) for a business product instead of the residential $59 product. I therefore have the right to and expect to get my full bandwidth (2.5Mbps) 24×7.

That’s what people should do if they are running a business from home. It’s hardly a significant business expense when even a cell phone is at least $100/month.

-Victor

By: Alex Goldman

Alex Goldman — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:28:06 +0000

Got quite a thread started here

http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-bandwidth/0804/index.html

when I wrote

Om Malik supports throttling, gets flamed

and quoted some of what you’d said.

It’s a _very long_ thread.

One question the ISPs would like answered: why do the oil companies get a free pass on fixing prices?

By: Jeh

Jeh — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:19:52 +0000

Aren’t we comparing two different things – bandwidth and traffic? Most of the reports on P2P suggest that P2P consumes a great portion of the ‘bandwidth’. Traffic wise – P2P is a low proportion – doesn’t surprise me.

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By: NextGenCommunications Blog » Blog Archive » The inability to face the truth.

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:28:12 +0000

[...] half duplex radios and now is crying that P2P is a scourge on their networks. According to Om Malik P2P isn’t anywhere near the problem many people are making it out to be. The P2P stats are the [...]

By: notlaw

notlaw — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:50:36 +0000

meh…1% of my ISP’s network consumes 86% of the bandwidth…that number isn’t bad really. That’s why pay per usage and incremental revenue was invented.

By: ‘0.5 procent internetters genereert 40 procent dataverkeer’ · ISPam.nl

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:57:28 +0000

[...] de abonnees 40 procent van het totale dataverkeer, zo stelt Danny McPherson, CTO van Arbor Networks tegenover GigaOM. Daarnaast neemt nog een 9.5 procent van alle abonnees nog eens 40 procent van het overige [...]