Comments on: Future Phones: Let Your Fingers Do the Talking http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:01:04 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Jake http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-971460 Jake Thu, 03 Sep 2009 17:43:07 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-971460 Big business has lots of con artists tricks, their should be a minister for consumers rights Big business has lots of con artists tricks, their should be a minister for consumers rights

]]> By: I Want to Give My Computer the Finger http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-958659 I Want to Give My Computer the Finger Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:36:15 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-958659 [...] Samsung’s gesture controlled phone is just an idea, but we all had fun with it. [...] [...] Samsung’s gesture controlled phone is just an idea, but we all had fun with it. [...]

]]> By: kate http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-944560 kate Wed, 20 May 2009 12:53:08 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-944560 they conned me and now i am unable to get hold of anyone who can help. i have reported them to trading standards and the guy dealing with it there is finding the same. AVOID!! they conned me and now i am unable to get hold of anyone who can help.

i have reported them to trading standards and the guy dealing with it there is finding the same.

AVOID!!

]]> By: Nuance Takes On Microsoft and Google With IBM Deal http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-921908 Nuance Takes On Microsoft and Google With IBM Deal Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:39:28 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-921908 [...] to your phone and have it execute the task, rely on speech recognition technology to create easier to use interfaces for everything from in-car navigation devices to mobile phones. Steve Chambers, president of Nuance’s mobile enterprise division, says the deal with IBM, the [...] [...] to your phone and have it execute the task, rely on speech recognition technology to create easier to use interfaces for everything from in-car navigation devices to mobile phones. Steve Chambers, president of Nuance’s mobile enterprise division, says the deal with IBM, the [...]

]]> By: Telefonía móvil por gestos | AtelMedia http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-914508 Telefonía móvil por gestos | AtelMedia Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:42:37 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-914508 [...] Nokia registró una patente con esa finalidad, que se suma a la que ya conocíamos por parte de Samsung. Dichas patentes no dejan de ser bastante generales, pero deben dar una idea clara de por dónde [...] [...] Nokia registró una patente con esa finalidad, que se suma a la que ya conocíamos por parte de Samsung. Dichas patentes no dejan de ser bastante generales, pero deben dar una idea clara de por dónde [...]

]]> By: Forget Wii Fit: Play Full-Body Tetris Instead - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-908880 Forget Wii Fit: Play Full-Body Tetris Instead - GigaOM Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:52:21 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-908880 [...] beyond actually touching or offering realistic simulation training. Samsung is looking at gestures as a mobile phone interface as well. Intel’s interest in the technology is that it requires many (hopefully Intel) [...] [...] beyond actually touching or offering realistic simulation training. Samsung is looking at gestures as a mobile phone interface as well. Intel’s interest in the technology is that it requires many (hopefully Intel) [...]

]]> By: J.Williams http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-884122 J.Williams Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:16:25 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-884122 Can u please tell me if future phones are in any way associated with a legal company called "UPI"? they have ontacted me tonight re: claiming back bank charges. i would just like to know if they are ligitimate or con merchants! please reply thanx jan. Can u please tell me if future phones are in any way associated with a legal company called “UPI”? they have ontacted me tonight re: claiming back bank charges. i would just like to know if they are ligitimate or con merchants! please reply thanx jan.

]]> By: Scionguy http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-872073 Scionguy Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:31:11 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-872073 <p>@James: You need to get better sources. The iphone accounted for 28% of the smartphone market share (not ALL phones) in the 4th quarter of 2007. Selling more phones in 1 quarter does NOT mean they dominate the market. There are many, many millions more Windows Mobile phones out there whether you like it or not.</p> <p>I have no reason to have a multi-touch, proximity, accelerometer or any other cool, but worthless gadget in my phone. It looks cool when you spin a picture around with 2 fingers, but it serves no purpose. I'd rather give that up and have 3G which does have a purpose. Or how about a battery I can change myself like Windows Mobile devices? If your phone goes dead you sit there bored. If mine goes dead I change the battery and continue doing whatever I need to do.</p> <p>"Above all the iPhone has modern OS (OS X) with a REAL web browser and Wi-Fi to boot." Windows Mobile 6 was released in 2007.. I'd call that modern. My Windows Mobile based phone has had a REAL web browser and Wi-Fi for YEARS before the iphone was ever thought of. You wouldn't know because you've never even touched a Windows Mobile device have you? And if I didn't like the browser I could go download one of the countless other browsers since 3rd party applications are allowed. If you find that a feature is missing from your browser then you're just out of luck because Apple already decided what you should/shouldn't do with YOUR phone. Oh and since Jobs decided for all users that Flash isn't good enough, your "real" web browser doesn't support one of the most commonly used technologies. I wouldn't call that a "real" browser. I'd call it "missing features".. just like the rest of the iphone.</p> <p>"Slapping together hardware, software, and services developed by different companies makes for a weak user experience." No, it makes for a great experience with lots of competition and innovation. When there is no competition (i.e. you have to get everything from Apple) then they have no incentive to make it better. A weak user experience is when you can only install Apple approved browser based applications. I can install all kinds of 3rd party applications (that are REAL applications) that give me a MUCH better user experience than a closed, proprietary iphone will ever have. A weak user experience comes from your cell phone manufacturer deciding which carrier you should be with. Fewer choices ALWAYS means worse experience for the user.</p> <p>It's a horrible business model and it's why Apple can't takeover Windows in the PC market either. With Windows you have tons of choices for hardware, software, etc. where the Macs have only 1 choice with 1 ridiculous price. The bottom line is Apple knows their products are shiny, but inferior in functionality. To stay in business they know they have to control every aspect of their products and consumers. Limiting consumer choices is the only thing Apple has ever been consistently good at.</p> @James: You need to get better sources. The iphone accounted for 28% of the smartphone market share (not ALL phones) in the 4th quarter of 2007. Selling more phones in 1 quarter does NOT mean they dominate the market. There are many, many millions more Windows Mobile phones out there whether you like it or not.

I have no reason to have a multi-touch, proximity, accelerometer or any other cool, but worthless gadget in my phone. It looks cool when you spin a picture around with 2 fingers, but it serves no purpose. I’d rather give that up and have 3G which does have a purpose. Or how about a battery I can change myself like Windows Mobile devices? If your phone goes dead you sit there bored. If mine goes dead I change the battery and continue doing whatever I need to do.

“Above all the iPhone has modern OS (OS X) with a REAL web browser and Wi-Fi to boot.”
Windows Mobile 6 was released in 2007.. I’d call that modern. My Windows Mobile based phone has had a REAL web browser and Wi-Fi for YEARS before the iphone was ever thought of. You wouldn’t know because you’ve never even touched a Windows Mobile device have you? And if I didn’t like the browser I could go download one of the countless other browsers since 3rd party applications are allowed. If you find that a feature is missing from your browser then you’re just out of luck because Apple already decided what you should/shouldn’t do with YOUR phone. Oh and since Jobs decided for all users that Flash isn’t good enough, your “real” web browser doesn’t support one of the most commonly used technologies. I wouldn’t call that a “real” browser. I’d call it “missing features”.. just like the rest of the iphone.

“Slapping together hardware, software, and services developed by different companies makes for a weak user experience.”
No, it makes for a great experience with lots of competition and innovation. When there is no competition (i.e. you have to get everything from Apple) then they have no incentive to make it better. A weak user experience is when you can only install Apple approved browser based applications. I can install all kinds of 3rd party applications (that are REAL applications) that give me a MUCH better user experience than a closed, proprietary iphone will ever have. A weak user experience comes from your cell phone manufacturer deciding which carrier you should be with. Fewer choices ALWAYS means worse experience for the user.

It’s a horrible business model and it’s why Apple can’t takeover Windows in the PC market either. With Windows you have tons of choices for hardware, software, etc. where the Macs have only 1 choice with 1 ridiculous price. The bottom line is Apple knows their products are shiny, but inferior in functionality. To stay in business they know they have to control every aspect of their products and consumers. Limiting consumer choices is the only thing Apple has ever been consistently good at.

]]> By: Nueva Patente de Samsung: control del móvil mediante señas « SCRATCHING http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-872012 Nueva Patente de Samsung: control del móvil mediante señas « SCRATCHING Sun, 20 Apr 2008 07:34:25 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-872012 <p>[...] Vía: GigaOM [...]</p> [...] Vía: GigaOM [...]

]]> By: Craig Daitch http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-871957 Craig Daitch Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:09:00 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-871957 <p>meant www.dialplus.net :-)</p> meant http://www.dialplus.net :-)

]]> By: Craig Daitch http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-871955 Craig Daitch Sat, 19 Apr 2008 22:06:16 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-871955 <p>It's going to be as much about data as it is voice. Companies like Dial Plus (www.dialplus.com) have an opportunity to help change mobile consumer behavior.</p> It’s going to be as much about data as it is voice. Companies like Dial Plus (www.dialplus.com) have an opportunity to help change mobile consumer behavior.

]]> By: James http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-871941 James Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:26:30 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-871941 <p>@Scionguy "The only thing Apple scored is the hype crown."</p> <p>Hype?</p> <p>Also-ran phone makers like Samsung have learned nothing. They are following the same FAILED strategy that Microsoft used to develop it's iPod killing Zune. Seven years after the debut of the iPod(iPhone), no one has come close to learning it's lessons as Apple gobbled up 80% of the market, while becoming the #1 retail music distributor at the expense of Walmart, Best Buy, and Amazon (8%). Now we see the same cycle repeating itself with the iPhone.</p> <p>There is no attack of the clones. These are simply recycled models with a touchscreen slapped on. Not a Multi-Touch (gesture) phone, with a Proximity Sensor and an Accelerometer (think Nintendo Wii) touchscreen, but the same-old tried kiosk touchscreen that adorns every ATM machine. Same goes for the software and services. The Symbian OS and Windows Mobile are junk, along with also-ran music services. Integration is key.</p> <p>What hype?</p> <p>The ground break triad of integrated hardware (iPod/iPhone), software (iTunes), and services (iTunes Music Store), developed using a non-commodity based vertical model, defies everything that this industry has thrived on since the rise of the Windows PC. Slapping together hardware, software, and services developed by different companies makes for a weak user experience.</p> <p>The problem for iPhone competitors is not features and price, rather their entire way of doing business.</p> <p>Watch the video about iPhone 2.0 developments... (a great section in it about games for the iPhone - think Nintendo Wii) http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/iphoneroadmap/</p> @Scionguy “The only thing Apple scored is the hype crown.”

Hype?

Also-ran phone makers like Samsung have learned nothing. They are following the same FAILED strategy that Microsoft used to develop it’s iPod killing Zune. Seven years after the debut of the iPod(iPhone), no one has come close to learning it’s lessons as Apple gobbled up 80% of the market, while becoming the #1 retail music distributor at the expense of Walmart, Best Buy, and Amazon (8%). Now we see the same cycle repeating itself with the iPhone.

There is no attack of the clones. These are simply recycled models with a touchscreen slapped on. Not a Multi-Touch (gesture) phone, with a Proximity Sensor and an Accelerometer (think Nintendo Wii) touchscreen, but the same-old tried kiosk touchscreen that adorns every ATM machine. Same goes for the software and services. The Symbian OS and Windows Mobile are junk, along with also-ran music services. Integration is key.

What hype?

The ground break triad of integrated hardware (iPod/iPhone), software (iTunes), and services (iTunes Music Store), developed using a non-commodity based vertical model, defies everything that this industry has thrived on since the rise of the Windows PC. Slapping together hardware, software, and services developed by different companies makes for a weak user experience.

The problem for iPhone competitors is not features and price, rather their entire way of doing business.

Watch the video about iPhone 2.0 developments… (a great section in it about games for the iPhone – think Nintendo Wii)
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/iphoneroadmap/

]]> By: James http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-871940 James Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:19:19 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-871940 <p>The competitors won't beat Apple using a horizontal model of development, because they can't develop a product with the same level of integration that Apple can. Nor can they provide the ecosystem that iTunes / iTunes music store can provide.</p> <p>Apple has changed the wireless phone market forever. Just like they have with Music and the first commercial non-DRM tracks, Apple has changed wireless well beyond hardware and software, being the first company to get revenue sharing from a wireless provider and circumvent them as the frontman.</p> <p>You need to do some research.</p> <p>It's funny how so many people these days think that when something is wildly popular and people are excited about it, it's just a fad or or some kind of infatuation (love affair). But the industry has changed and you just can see it, because your using "last years thinking" in a new age of technology.</p> <p>We just see something you can't, because it's what we've been waiting for all along. Change.</p> <p>Apple’s iPhone vs Smartphone Software Makers
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/03/07/apples-iphone-vs-smartphone-software-makers/#more-1618</p> <p>iPhone 2.0 SDK: Video Games to Rival Nintendo DS, Sony PSP
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/03/20/iphone-20-sdk-video-games-to-rival-nintendo-ds-sony-psp/#more-1650</p> The competitors won’t beat Apple using a horizontal model of development, because they can’t develop a product with the same level of integration that Apple can. Nor can they provide the ecosystem that iTunes / iTunes music store can provide.

Apple has changed the wireless phone market forever. Just like they have with Music and the first commercial non-DRM tracks, Apple has changed wireless well beyond hardware and software, being the first company to get revenue sharing from a wireless provider and circumvent them as the frontman.

You need to do some research.

It’s funny how so many people these days think that when something is wildly popular and people are excited about it, it’s just a fad or or some kind of infatuation (love affair). But the industry has changed and you just can see it, because your using “last years thinking” in a new age of technology.

We just see something you can’t, because it’s what we’ve been waiting for all along. Change.

Apple’s iPhone vs Smartphone Software Makers
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/03/07/apples-iphone-vs-smartphone-software-makers/#more-1618

iPhone 2.0 SDK: Video Games to Rival Nintendo DS, Sony PSP
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/03/20/iphone-20-sdk-video-games-to-rival-nintendo-ds-sony-psp/#more-1650

]]> By: James http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-871939 James Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:15:55 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-871939 <p>@Scionguy "Without 3G, 3rd party apps, active sync, GPS and tons of other features, the iPhone can’t “touch” a Windows Mobile device... The only thing Apple scored is the hype crown."</p> <p>That must be why the iPhone now exceeds Windows Mobile in marketshare. The crown doesn't go to those in third place, like Windows Moblie.</p> <p>iPhone trumping Windows Mobile ownership http://www.electronista.com/articles/07/12/17/iphone.vs.windows.mobile/</p> <p>iPhone Smashes Windows Mobile and Motorola in 4Q http://gizmodo.com/353408/iphone-smashes-windows-mobile-and-motorola-in-4q</p> <p>Canalys, Symbian: Apple iPhone Already Leads Windows Mobile in US Market Share, Q3 2007 http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/12/14/canalys-symbian-apple-iphone-already-leads-windows-mobile-in-us-market-share-q3-2007/</p> <p>The Spectacular Failure of WinCE and Windows Mobile http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/50755EA6-A759-42FD-84ED-EBB5A060AF16.html</p> @Scionguy “Without 3G, 3rd party apps, active sync, GPS and tons of other features, the iPhone can’t “touch” a Windows Mobile device… The only thing Apple scored is the hype crown.”

That must be why the iPhone now exceeds Windows Mobile in marketshare. The crown doesn’t go to those in third place, like Windows Moblie.

iPhone trumping Windows Mobile ownership
http://www.electronista.com/articles/07/12/17/iphone.vs.windows.mobile/

iPhone Smashes Windows Mobile and Motorola in 4Q
http://gizmodo.com/353408/iphone-smashes-windows-mobile-and-motorola-in-4q

Canalys, Symbian: Apple iPhone Already Leads Windows Mobile in US Market Share, Q3 2007
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2007/12/14/canalys-symbian-apple-iphone-already-leads-windows-mobile-in-us-market-share-q3-2007/

The Spectacular Failure of WinCE and Windows Mobile
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q1.07/50755EA6-A759-42FD-84ED-EBB5A060AF16.html

]]> By: James http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-871938 James Sat, 19 Apr 2008 19:00:51 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-871938 <p>@Scionguy "Apple came into the game YEARS after touch screens were introduced to Windows Mobile and Palm devices. Even with tons of devices to copy, they still introduced a “new” phone with far fewer features than devices 5 years older. The only thing Apple scored is the hype crown."</p> <p>Whahaha... another critic about to go down in flames...</p> <p>The iPhone is a game changer in just about every way that counts. Yes, there were touch phones before the iPod and many more after, BUT not Multi-Touch (gesture), with a Proximity Sensor and an Accelerometer (think Nintendo Wii), with 300 patents to protect it from also-ran phones from Nokia and others.</p> <p>Above all the iPhone has modern OS (OS X) with a REAL web browser and Wi-Fi to boot. Also, the iPhone is about integrated software design and a developer friendly SDK. For the average user this will result in a superior user experience that goes well beyond current phones with inferior operating systems and troublesome development models.</p> <p>Apple’s iPhone vs Smartphone Software Makers http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/03/07/apples-iphone-vs-smartphone-software-makers/#more-1618</p> <p>iPhone 2.0 SDK: Video Games to Rival Nintendo DS, Sony PSP http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/03/20/iphone-20-sdk-video-games-to-rival-nintendo-ds-sony-psp/#more-1650</p> @Scionguy “Apple came into the game YEARS after touch screens were introduced to Windows Mobile and Palm devices. Even with tons of devices to copy, they still introduced a “new” phone with far fewer features than devices 5 years older. The only thing Apple scored is the hype crown.”

Whahaha… another critic about to go down in flames…

The iPhone is a game changer in just about every way that counts. Yes, there were touch phones before the iPod and many more after, BUT not Multi-Touch (gesture), with a Proximity Sensor and an Accelerometer (think Nintendo Wii), with 300 patents to protect it from also-ran phones from Nokia and others.

Above all the iPhone has modern OS (OS X) with a REAL web browser and Wi-Fi to boot. Also, the iPhone is about integrated software design and a developer friendly SDK. For the average user this will result in a superior user experience that goes well beyond current phones with inferior operating systems and troublesome development models.

Apple’s iPhone vs Smartphone Software Makers
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/03/07/apples-iphone-vs-smartphone-software-makers/#more-1618

iPhone 2.0 SDK: Video Games to Rival Nintendo DS, Sony PSP
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2008/03/20/iphone-20-sdk-video-games-to-rival-nintendo-ds-sony-psp/#more-1650

]]> By: Patente de Samsung para controlar el móvil por gestos http://gigaom.com/2008/04/17/future-phones-let-your-fingers-do-the-talking/#comment-871907 Patente de Samsung para controlar el móvil por gestos Sat, 19 Apr 2008 08:15:40 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=12181#comment-871907 <p>[...] | GigaOM. Imagen de Cellpasion. trackback ¿Recomendarías este post? Más noticias sobre: [...]</p> [...] | GigaOM. Imagen de Cellpasion. trackback ¿Recomendarías este post? Más noticias sobre: [...]

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