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	<title>Comments on: HP to consider VIA Isaiah and Intel Atom in HP Mini-Note refresh</title>
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		<title>By: Coun</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/10/hp-to-consider/#comment-372817</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;1.6ghz C7-M is 7.5w?!  geeez, what kind of gas guzzler are they designing over at Via? even my old 2005 laptop had a 1.2ghz Pentium-M ULV was just 5w, and it could also run circles around the Via in performance. i realize it&#039;s a bigger CPU, discontinued, &amp; couldnt be upgraded like the C7-M &gt; Isaiah. but still, Via is using some seriously old (in-order exec) &amp; power hungry technology with the C7-M.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;no wonder the HP&#039;s 6-cell battery life sucks. if they had used the A110 3w this would probably be a 9w (total) machine &amp; achieve around 6 hours (and be slightly faster also). as it stands right now, it&#039;s probably a 13w-14w machine getting only 4 hours.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;HP MUST be planning an upgrade path to Isaiah, that is the absolute only thing that makes sense. i am more convinced now than ever.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.6ghz C7-M is 7.5w?!  geeez, what kind of gas guzzler are they designing over at Via? even my old 2005 laptop had a 1.2ghz Pentium-M ULV was just 5w, and it could also run circles around the Via in performance. i realize it&#8217;s a bigger CPU, discontinued, &#038; couldnt be upgraded like the C7-M > Isaiah. but still, Via is using some seriously old (in-order exec) &#038; power hungry technology with the C7-M.</p>
<p>no wonder the HP&#8217;s 6-cell battery life sucks. if they had used the A110 3w this would probably be a 9w (total) machine &#038; achieve around 6 hours (and be slightly faster also). as it stands right now, it&#8217;s probably a 13w-14w machine getting only 4 hours.</p>
<p>HP MUST be planning an upgrade path to Isaiah, that is the absolute only thing that makes sense. i am more convinced now than ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/10/hp-to-consider/#comment-372818</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;I think performance will be much better on the Mini-Note with XP. It&#039;s due on May 15.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Run that by me again?  You cannot get a Mini with XP until *MAY 15*?!!?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>>>>I think performance will be much better on the Mini-Note with XP. It&#8217;s due on May 15.</p>
<p>Run that by me again?  You cannot get a Mini with XP until *MAY 15*?!!?</p>
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		<title>By: Ismail Bagci</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/10/hp-to-consider/#comment-372819</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I believe it is a business strategy from HP.  This is done quite often in business.  They play two competitors against each other both trying for the business and each offering a discounted price.  Even if HP knows it will goes with VIA, the will make sure that VIA knows that there is still competition from Intel so they make sure the target price is where they need it for a decent profit margin.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I believe it is a business strategy from HP.  This is done quite often in business.  They play two competitors against each other both trying for the business and each offering a discounted price.  Even if HP knows it will goes with VIA, the will make sure that VIA knows that there is still competition from Intel so they make sure the target price is where they need it for a decent profit margin.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/10/hp-to-consider/#comment-372820</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s at least double the draw of the low-end 1.0ghz C7-M, maybe more.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Weird... only up to 1.5ghz listed at Via&#039;s page. 1.6 is MIA.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/processors/c7-m_ulv/index.jsp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/processors/c7-m_ulv/index.jsp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>It&#8217;s at least double the draw of the low-end 1.0ghz C7-M, maybe more.</p>
<p>Weird&#8230; only up to 1.5ghz listed at Via&#8217;s page. 1.6 is MIA.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/processors/c7-m_ulv/index.jsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.via.com.tw/en/products/processors/c7-m_ulv/index.jsp</a></p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/10/hp-to-consider/#comment-372821</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;does anybody know the power consumption of the current 1.6ghz C7-M found in the highend HP?&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>does anybody know the power consumption of the current 1.6ghz C7-M found in the highend HP?</p>
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		<title>By: bostonirishguy13</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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        &lt;p&gt;I think performance will be much better on the Mini-Note with XP. It&#039;s due on May 15.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I think performance will be much better on the Mini-Note with XP. It&#8217;s due on May 15.</p>
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		<title>By: TheCoin</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/10/hp-to-consider/#comment-372823</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;i doubt HP will wait a full 6 months for a refresh, especially when the company they are in contract with is the 1 offering the new CPU &amp; there is just going to be way to much compeition coming up in this market segment.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;i will ABSOLUTELY buy 1 of these when the Isaiah is dropped inside (or to a lesser extent Atom), but not until then. i also wont recommend it until then to any of my acquaintances or coworkers (i work in IT for an F500).&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i doubt HP will wait a full 6 months for a refresh, especially when the company they are in contract with is the 1 offering the new CPU &#038; there is just going to be way to much compeition coming up in this market segment.</p>
<p>i will ABSOLUTELY buy 1 of these when the Isaiah is dropped inside (or to a lesser extent Atom), but not until then. i also wont recommend it until then to any of my acquaintances or coworkers (i work in IT for an F500).</p>
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		<title>By: TechOIN</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/10/hp-to-consider/#comment-372824</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;ooops, i should definitely clarify...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Intel stated that the 1.6ghz Atom will have equal performance to the 1ghz Pentium-M&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>ooops, i should definitely clarify&#8230;</p>
<p>Intel stated that the 1.6ghz Atom will have equal performance to the 1ghz Pentium-M</p>
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		<title>By: TechOIN</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/10/hp-to-consider/#comment-372825</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;to people looking for a basic explanation of the situation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Intel Atom:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2.4w &#124; in-order execution &#124; 2 instructions per clock cycle&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Via Isaiah:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3.5w &#124; out-of-order execution &#124; 3 instructions per clock cycle&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
i think people keep stating that they wish the HP had an Atom CPU simply because they have no deeper understanding than that of the Intel branding. the advantages of the Isaiah is that it is pin compatible (needs no redesign) with current C7-M &amp; no question will be a better performer. the primary downside being it needs 1w extra power (which isnt a major issue).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;although in the Atom&#039;s defense, Intel has claimed it will have equal performance to the 1ghz Pentium-M. but that also means the Isaiah would be even faster.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to people looking for a basic explanation of the situation.</p>
<p>Intel Atom:</p>
<p>2.4w | in-order execution | 2 instructions per clock cycle</p>
<p>Via Isaiah:</p>
<p>3.5w | out-of-order execution | 3 instructions per clock cycle</p>
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i think people keep stating that they wish the HP had an Atom CPU simply because they have no deeper understanding than that of the Intel branding. the advantages of the Isaiah is that it is pin compatible (needs no redesign) with current C7-M &#038; no question will be a better performer. the primary downside being it needs 1w extra power (which isnt a major issue).</p>
<p>although in the Atom&#8217;s defense, Intel has claimed it will have equal performance to the 1ghz Pentium-M. but that also means the Isaiah would be even faster.</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;div xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are two types of Atom. One for MID type devices and a cheaper version for Netbook or low cost desktop computers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;]]></description>
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<p>There are two types of Atom. One for MID type devices and a cheaper version for Netbook or low cost desktop computers.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Atom</a></p>
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