There are already nokia tube domains being sold on ebay. Sad.

>>>That’s about the dumbest thing I’ve read today. Thanks for the chuckle.

You’re welcome. You probably would have laughed back in the 1980s if I told you Chrysler was doomed and would be bought by Germans. That Jaguar was doomed and would be bought by the Chinese.

Let’s meet here in 2020 shall we? I’ll be sure to have the last laugh.

It’s funny you say that, that the phones in europe are so much better.
I live in Iceland and I work at a mobile carrier an have had accsess to most new phones and before I had my iPhone I always switched phones every 2-3 weeks or so. No I have had my iPhone for almost 6 months and have not touched another phone, and no phone have even remotely tempted me.

When I look at the iPhone I look at what it can don, not what it can’t do. and here are the 4 reasons why the iPhone is the best phone for me.

#1 – Built quality. The only phone in Nokia’s line that comes even close to iPhone’s built quality is the 8800 and it cost’s 2-3X more.

#2 – Comfortable to use with one hand, comfortable UI.

#3 – Best mobile webbrowser awailable today on a phone.

#3 – fully functional iPod in my phone.

And when Nokia offer me an ugly plastic alternative with worse UI, worse media featurs and worse webbrowser, All the GPS’s, 3G’s and built in FM radio’s of the world could never even get me to think about letting it replace my iPhone.

Gotta wholeheartedly disagree here. The stylus is what allows fast text input if you know how to use it and practice a little.

We all know how bad onscreen keyboards suck. What is worse to me is the complete waste of space, thickness, etc of implementing a hardware keyboard. With a little practice one can easily stylus write faster than thumb write.

Now in terms of any UI or navigation there should be absolutely NO stylus input, this is where windows mobile is woefully behind the curve. The stylus is only for one purpose and one purpose only, for long text entry.

BTW I used to write all my patient daily encounter notes and long reports on my old Ipaq before tablet PC’s came out. I would routinely write 20-30 pages of text per day on it. I could never in my wildest dreams imagine doing that with a hardware keyboard, or gasp… an onscreen keyboard.

So please think twice before you denounce the stylus. What you really mean to denounce is stylus navigation within an UI.

i have said it before and i say it again, the iphone is a construct of the us mobile phone market.

compared to even a low price nokia in europe, the feature set of the iphone is down right laughable.

bluetooth that cant do file transfer? come on…

but i guess the us market i used to that sort of thing so i dont blame them.

i will say the same about the iphone as i will say about a girl. while the looks my get me interested, the brains will make me stay.

but then i guess i match the geek stereotype, and probably have my style vs substance values crossed these days…

I’m all for freedom of choice and I have owned many great S60 phones, but also many crapy ones.

But staitments like:
“We all know that iPhone is nothing but the crap”
“The iPhone brings nothing new to the market”

they just judge them self.

Also it is quite funny to see Nokia make the same mistake that all of apple competitors in the iPod market made, make worse product’s with more, and more features.

“Yeah, right. Feeling the heat of impending bankruptcy in Finland, are they? Good riddance.”

That’s about the dumbest thing I’ve read today. Thanks for the chuckle.

Nokia has over 40% of the handset market globally. Nokia also has over 50% of the smartphone market globally. The iPhone is definitely not a piece of crap, but right now Apple is a tiny blip on the radar compared to Samsung as far as Nokia is concerned. Will that change in a few years when Apple has 4 or 5 solid handsets out. You’re damn right it will. Hopefully by then Nokia will have put this S60 Touch nonsense behind them and will have stepped up their game if they choose to be competitive in the touch UI market. Either way, they’ll be the global leader for many, many years to come…

im with the people that say choice is good.

reading webforums on my N800 i can either zoom 3-4 levels so that the “new posts” element becomes big enough to reliably hit with a finger, pop the stylus and tap it with that, or turn of all images so that i can get the alternative text based link…

and given the limited options of a iphone, i would say that zooming until finger friendly would be my only option. and then zooming back out again so that one get most of the text on screen again. all in all, meh…

if the unfamiliarity of the user should stop one from including something, then we would still be bashing stones together…

>>>S60 environment

Oh Christ. Yeah, have fun with that General Public.

>>>We all know that iPhone is nothing but the crap

Yeah, right. Feeling the heat of impending bankruptcy in Finland, are they? Good riddance.

Finger-touch works great for some things, but for others, not so well.

Putting aside HWR (which I’ll happily take if I can get it), there are also plenty of web pages with dense links that are close enough that it’s hard to be precise with a finger on a 3″ screen. Heck, just move up THIS page to the list of recent comments on the right and you’ll see what I mean – and there are much harder examples out there. I’ll take the stylus for this purpose alone, every time. Remember, most web pages are designed for use with a precision pointing instrument that can put the pointer in a space a few pixels wide – a mouse or stylus – not for finger pointing.