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		<title>By: Adobe Gets Out of the Content Syndication Biz</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/09/adobe-launches-media-player-2/#comment-457172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adobe Gets Out of the Content Syndication Biz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] which launched just over a year ago, offered content from MTV , CBS, Showtime, Sony and many independent creators, [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Adobe Adds Sony to Media Player &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/09/adobe-launches-media-player-2/#comment-457171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adobe Adds Sony to Media Player &#171; NewTeeVee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] a link on the thank-you page for new downloads of Adobe Reader and the Flash player. AMP, which launched April 9 with MTV and CBS content, will also add more video from CBS and Showtime such as the first three [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a link on the thank-you page for new downloads of Adobe Reader and the Flash player. AMP, which launched April 9 with MTV and CBS content, will also add more video from CBS and Showtime such as the first three [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dis Appointed</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/09/adobe-launches-media-player-2/#comment-457170</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dis Appointed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Whew - calling this waste of space a &quot;media player&quot; is a complete misnomer.  Having tried it out and then reread this blog entry I see that it&#039;s implied, but beware - taking feeds is &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; this thing does.  Unless you want  content that is exclusive to Adobe (and even then unless you&#039;re in the USA most of it probably won&#039;t play, unlike what Adobe imply), &lt;strong&gt;don&#039;t bother&lt;/strong&gt;.  This is what I posted at http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b5c547&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
Frankly, I feel extremely misled by the description of AMP on its product page.  Calling it a Media Player and all the talk of being able to watch what you want, when you want and streaming and downloading video - all you can &lt;em&gt;actually&lt;/em&gt; do is watch stuff from the signed up content providers, or that you&#039;ve already got on your hard drive (and have presumably got a player for already, that will almost certainly take up a lot less screen estate than this beast).  Oh, and there&#039;s some mention of adding RSS feeds of videos - though looking at other posts here whether that works is debatable. Anything else might as well not exist.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I had hoped that it would be a way of watching embedded streamed flash videos  without having to have the whole webpage that they&#039;re on open - this would give you just the video, so would be more compact, and would be resizeable so you could watch it at any size you liked, not just the default or full-screen.  After all, coming from Adobe, there would be no problem about having to reverse engineer the RTMP format.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe even (though I thought it unlikely) being able to download videos where the provider permitted it - no worry though, there are other tools for that.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also - the design.  A massive window, not resizeable at all except to minimise / maximise.  Appalling contrast - it&#039;s like being in a cave, everything&#039;s so black.  I couldn&#039;t even see that there were scroll bars - just waved my mouse around where I thought they should be.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s like having the worst, most useless part of RealPlayer (the download centre, or whatever they call it) and not the player itself.  This is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; a media player - a client, maybe.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Frankly, the only reason I can see for installing this is if there is some content that it has that you can&#039;t get anywhere else.  If not, don&#039;t waste your time - use something else.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Like I say, I&#039;m disappointed.  I feel like I&#039;ve been lied to and had my time wasted.  Unless I&#039;m &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; missing something??&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now we&#039;ll see how easily it uninstalls...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew &#8211; calling this waste of space a &#8220;media player&#8221; is a complete misnomer.  Having tried it out and then reread this blog entry I see that it&#8217;s implied, but beware &#8211; taking feeds is <em>all</em> this thing does.  Unless you want  content that is exclusive to Adobe (and even then unless you&#8217;re in the USA most of it probably won&#8217;t play, unlike what Adobe imply), <strong>don&#8217;t bother</strong>.  This is what I posted at <a href="http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b5c547" rel="nofollow">http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b5c547</a></p>
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Frankly, I feel extremely misled by the description of AMP on its product page.  Calling it a Media Player and all the talk of being able to watch what you want, when you want and streaming and downloading video &#8211; all you can <em>actually</em> do is watch stuff from the signed up content providers, or that you&#8217;ve already got on your hard drive (and have presumably got a player for already, that will almost certainly take up a lot less screen estate than this beast).  Oh, and there&#8217;s some mention of adding RSS feeds of videos &#8211; though looking at other posts here whether that works is debatable. Anything else might as well not exist.</p>
<p>I had hoped that it would be a way of watching embedded streamed flash videos  without having to have the whole webpage that they&#8217;re on open &#8211; this would give you just the video, so would be more compact, and would be resizeable so you could watch it at any size you liked, not just the default or full-screen.  After all, coming from Adobe, there would be no problem about having to reverse engineer the RTMP format.</p>
<p>Maybe even (though I thought it unlikely) being able to download videos where the provider permitted it &#8211; no worry though, there are other tools for that.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; the design.  A massive window, not resizeable at all except to minimise / maximise.  Appalling contrast &#8211; it&#8217;s like being in a cave, everything&#8217;s so black.  I couldn&#8217;t even see that there were scroll bars &#8211; just waved my mouse around where I thought they should be.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like having the worst, most useless part of RealPlayer (the download centre, or whatever they call it) and not the player itself.  This is <em>not</em> a media player &#8211; a client, maybe.</p>
<p>Frankly, the only reason I can see for installing this is if there is some content that it has that you can&#8217;t get anywhere else.  If not, don&#8217;t waste your time &#8211; use something else.</p>
<p>Like I say, I&#8217;m disappointed.  I feel like I&#8217;ve been lied to and had my time wasted.  Unless I&#8217;m <em>really</em> missing something??</p>
<p>Now we&#8217;ll see how easily it uninstalls&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adobe Second-Class Citizen of Colbert Nation &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/09/adobe-launches-media-player-2/#comment-457169</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adobe Second-Class Citizen of Colbert Nation &#171; NewTeeVee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Player, Adobe&#8217;s platform-independent online video software, is adding more content from its launch partners MTV Networks and CBS, the company said tonight. But Adobe ends up looking bad in comparison to [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Rick K.</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/09/adobe-launches-media-player-2/#comment-457168</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick K.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 20:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Mark, you can&#039;t be serious. Between the format limitations imposed by being a flashed-based player and the lack of cross browser compatibility, AMP is about as market changing for Adobe as Photoshop&#039;s new logo.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now consider the focus Adobe has admitted to (white label publishers) vs offerings like Miro and VLC (other human beings), and I don&#039;t think you could be more wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, you can&#8217;t be serious. Between the format limitations imposed by being a flashed-based player and the lack of cross browser compatibility, AMP is about as market changing for Adobe as Photoshop&#8217;s new logo.</p>
<p>Now consider the focus Adobe has admitted to (white label publishers) vs offerings like Miro and VLC (other human beings), and I don&#8217;t think you could be more wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Flash Ophile</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/09/adobe-launches-media-player-2/#comment-457167</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Flash Ophile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@ Knose Phiker&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re obviously joking. Please, let&#039;s stop comparing established companies with solid software like Adobe with bogus nonsense companies like Odeo.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nice screen name by the way.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Knose Phiker</p>
<p>You&#8217;re obviously joking. Please, let&#8217;s stop comparing established companies with solid software like Adobe with bogus nonsense companies like Odeo.</p>
<p>Nice screen name by the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Knose Phiker</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/09/adobe-launches-media-player-2/#comment-457166</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Knose Phiker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Hey, ease up Stan.  Joost and Miro might have to worry about Adobe&#039;s software introduction - and the white label marketing juggernaut that will ensue...  But my money is on Odeo to deliver a much better user experience.  Why use an off-the-shelf app when you can build your own from scratch and tailor it precisely to user needs?  I agree with Jeremy when he says the universal device support in the Odeo player will be the killer app.  Can&#039;t wait!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, ease up Stan.  Joost and Miro might have to worry about Adobe&#8217;s software introduction &#8211; and the white label marketing juggernaut that will ensue&#8230;  But my money is on Odeo to deliver a much better user experience.  Why use an off-the-shelf app when you can build your own from scratch and tailor it precisely to user needs?  I agree with Jeremy when he says the universal device support in the Odeo player will be the killer app.  Can&#8217;t wait!</p>
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		<title>By: Stan Oslavsky</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/09/adobe-launches-media-player-2/#comment-457165</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stan Oslavsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Why would anyone in their right mind sit around waiting for something from a lifeless company such as Odeo, when a platform company such as Adobe introduces the goods?
Miro &amp; Joost remember this day well, because it&#039;s the day your greatest  fears came true. Odeo? Keep those great jpegs &quot;coming soon&quot; coming soon LOL!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone in their right mind sit around waiting for something from a lifeless company such as Odeo, when a platform company such as Adobe introduces the goods?<br />
Miro &amp; Joost remember this day well, because it&#8217;s the day your greatest  fears came true. Odeo? Keep those great jpegs &#8220;coming soon&#8221; coming soon LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Worlson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/09/adobe-launches-media-player-2/#comment-457164</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Worlson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;What a joke to wait for Odeo&#039;s player! its just old fireant garbage not even half recycled from the dumpster! We&#039;ve all been waiting for Adobe&#039;s AMP, the real goods from real developers from a real company doing really cool stuff!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a joke to wait for Odeo&#8217;s player! its just old fireant garbage not even half recycled from the dumpster! We&#8217;ve all been waiting for Adobe&#8217;s AMP, the real goods from real developers from a real company doing really cool stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Kliebnor</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/04/09/adobe-launches-media-player-2/#comment-457163</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeremy Kliebnor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m going to wait for the Odeo player.  That&#039;s the killer app.  It will port all your audio and videoblog content to any handheld device you want - seamlessly.  It will be easy to use too.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to wait for the Odeo player.  That&#8217;s the killer app.  It will port all your audio and videoblog content to any handheld device you want &#8211; seamlessly.  It will be easy to use too.</p>
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