Comments on: Cogent CEO: Peering Breakdown Is Telia's Fault

By: Richard

Richard — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:18:22 +0000

Do Telia realise they are affecting New Zealand and other countries here in the pacific from accessing certain European sites? I subscribe to one particular site and if this matter is not resolved soon, I will be requesting my money back for failure to provide a service. Hopefully by doing this the site will then sue Telia for loss of business caused by them!

By: Linda SVENSSON

Linda SVENSSON — Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:05:28 +0000

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- Does Telia Have A Clue?
- Yes’ut’s! TELIA is spy machinery of all kind legalized dictatorial areas…

By: Rommel

Rommel — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:46:28 +0000

Cogent dag that hole for themselves by not doing proper market research and contract negotiations. Their legal counsel is not the brightest guy in the world and I tell you, these guys are a special bunch of incompetent morons.

Telia Sonera had the right to do this to Cogent.

By: 10 Stories That Defined Broadband in 2008

10 Stories That Defined Broadband in 2008 — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:15:56 +0000

[...] Communications, a wholesale bandwidth provider, got into a fracas with two separate carriers -– Telia and Sprint — and shut off its connections with them, [...]

By: Cogent, Sprint Disconnect Networks, May Cause Web Slowdown - GigaOM

Cogent, Sprint Disconnect Networks, May Cause Web Slowdown - GigaOM — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 05:57:27 +0000

[...] need to be compensated for the the traffic they are sending to the other. Cogent CEO Dave Schaffer in an interview earlier this year said that carriers hate them because they don’t like “our low-price pricing policy except [...]

By: Verslo Tinklas

Verslo Tinklas — Sun, 04 May 2008 01:07:32 +0000

To internet goblin

You should wear your sharp suit when you visit Sweden, their governments own TeliaSonera whose business model fully depends on bribery and corruption.

It’s a shame that Swedish and Finnish governments are tolerating to this crimianal business.

Sooner or later TeliaSonera mafia will have to respond for its criminal actions against our companies.

TeliaSonera MUST STOP SPREADING BRIBERY AND CORRUPTION IN LITHUANIA!

By: Mike

Mike — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 12:24:28 +0000

Looks like they finally managed to find an agreement. Since yesterday (Friday) both networks have again direct connectivity through interconnects in LA, Ashburn and London.
http://www.backbone-news.com/2008/03/28/cogenttelia-connectivity-restored/

By: Inside the Newsroom » Blog Archive » Why didn’t the web site work for me? This is why.

Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:52:53 +0000

[...] network infrastructure at peering locations to better carry traffic. Cogent CEO Dave Schaffer claims Telia was doing that to degrade the experience for Cogent’s customers. Eventually Cogent and [...]

By: NRK offer for striden mellom TeliaSonera og Cogent

NRK offer for striden mellom TeliaSonera og Cogent — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:12:53 +0000

[...] for spillstoff, benytter videonettstedet blip.tv til lagring av gametrailers, men på grunn av en splid mellom TeliaSonera og Cogent så er ikke blip.tv lenger tilgjengelig i endel europeiske land, [...]

By: tekilo7

tekilo7 — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:52:46 +0000

No one is mentioning that Internet Transit and access is still "best efforts". I would encourage all Cogent customers reading this to look on their contracts and find any language referencing "full routing table acccess". I bet you will not find it, because this service is still very much a collaboration service. Particularly in the wholesale market. So you are stuck with what you pay for.

I received a call two days ago from a customer that was extremely upset about the whole situation, yet he understood the simple premise: The service is best efforts. There are no service level guarantees. lower rates = insecurity and no reliability. You get what you paid for.

By: Bill Noel

Bill Noel — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:16:44 +0000

Cogent should stop this nonsense. Telia is big enough a company to fight back. Blackmail will not do. The customers will be the one that get hurt.

By: opassande » Blog Archive » Digitala förha(nd)lingar

opassande » Blog Archive » Digitala förha(nd)lingar — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:54:11 +0000

[...] och Cogent bråkar fortfarande med varandra om ett avtalsbrott angående s.k. peering. Trafiken mellan Cogents servrar och Telias har stängts av helt enkelt, [...]

By: Mike

Mike — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:36:56 +0000

I have some 3 servers and use cogent bandwidth now because i live in sweden i can not access them! If the issue does not get resolved i may move my servers.

I really don't care whos fault it is.

By: Viktor.S

Viktor.S — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:41:10 +0000

FIRST OF ALL: Ongoing peering issue is between TELIASONERA INTERNATIONAL CARRIER(as1299) and Cogent, NOT TELIA SWEDEN(as3301) or SONERA, so if you wanna complain about bad broadband quality or bad customer support, TSIC(as1299) has got NOTHING to do with it. Except being within the same company group and that they are offering transit to them.

SECOND:

Fact: Teliasonera International carrier(as1299) has total transatlantic capacity of 160+90 Gbit/s.(Homepage and ip-network map not up-to-date) Links between Paris,London,Copenhagen-NYK,Washington(ASH).

Stating that TSIC should have 20G or “second to none” transatlantic capacity is just a joke.

Fact2: Cogent and TSIC only connect eachother in US, TSIC have different peering requirements for EU and US.

I leave the speculating of why they dont peer in EU and the rest to you guys.

By: Anders (another one)

Anders (another one) — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:18:42 +0000

(from first thread) They could have settled this in court or through negotiation (like ethical companies do). It doesn’t matter AT ALL which company is right or wrong - Cognet cut the cable so to speak.

The real problem, as several others posters mentioned, is that these tactics threatens the open structure of the Internet. 5 companies (in probably fewer, western, countries) can heavily disrupt Internet if they feel like doing so. International treaties is a must to prevent these ridicules disputes!

Issues are present as of today (24:th Mars).

Telia is trying to downplay the effect on their Swedish website. Saying it only affects a very small number of webb-sites. BullS* it affect loads of webb-sites. I did a tracert run from several European countries and carriers (19th) and so did my hosting provider - it affected huge numbers of users and websites (and many operators besides Telia).

I’ve seen traffic turned on and of on specific sites which indicate Telia is trying to re-route access to Cognet nets - though I suspect Cognet is countering those moves with new barriers.

(new in this thread) AND: Cognet ALSO seem to have stopped the Transit option to a great degree (see previos thread). Lying thives!

"TeliaSonera customers experiencing any difficulty reaching Cogent’s network can continue to purchase IP Transit from TeliaSonera along with another Tier 1 provider. This will fix the immediate problem and ensure optimal connectivity going forward."

By: Beregar

Beregar — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:20:13 +0000

Hmm, I'm curious if Cogent customers had advance notice about this?

When this happened with Level 3, didn't Cogent agree to give a warning to their customers before de-peering in the future? I suppose the agreement applied only to Cogent - Level 3 relationship...