Comments on: Zuckerberg and Facebook Both Have Growing Pains http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:26:30 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: YouTube’s Head of Monetization Quits, Joins CoolIris - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/#comment-881756 YouTube’s Head of Monetization Quits, Joins CoolIris - GigaOM Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:36:58 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11701#comment-881756 <p>[...] senior executive exodus continues. YouTube’s head of monetization, Shashi Seth, has now left the company to become the chief [...]</p> [...] senior executive exodus continues. YouTube’s head of monetization, Shashi Seth, has now left the company to become the chief [...]

]]> By: Stacey Higginbotham http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/#comment-864863 Stacey Higginbotham Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:06:21 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11701#comment-864863 <p>@Social Millionaire, Those apologies seem pretty scripted and forced. My guess is he's pushing the envelope and doesn't care all that much when it goes too far. He'll backtrack because from a business perspective it makes sense, not because he's sad that some guy's proposal was ruined because of Beacon. It may not be an admirable trait, but its an attitude that has led plenty of people to success in business.</p> <p>@grown, Zuckerberg is an adult, but there's a wide gulf in maturity ad experience between a 23-year-old and a 43-year-old. Bringing FB to meet the level of its hype is the sort of thing a seasoned manager may have a hard time doing, so watching a 23-year-old attempt it is noteworthy. If he fails, it may be his ability or it may also be his lack of experience. There are plenty of people who blew through a startup or two before figuring it all out.</p> @Social Millionaire, Those apologies seem pretty scripted and forced. My guess is he’s pushing the envelope and doesn’t care all that much when it goes too far. He’ll backtrack because from a business perspective it makes sense, not because he’s sad that some guy’s proposal was ruined because of Beacon. It may not be an admirable trait, but its an attitude that has led plenty of people to success in business.

@grown, Zuckerberg is an adult, but there’s a wide gulf in maturity ad experience between a 23-year-old and a 43-year-old. Bringing FB to meet the level of its hype is the sort of thing a seasoned manager may have a hard time doing, so watching a 23-year-old attempt it is noteworthy. If he fails, it may be his ability or it may also be his lack of experience. There are plenty of people who blew through a startup or two before figuring it all out.

]]> By: suzanne http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/#comment-864857 suzanne Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:53:14 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11701#comment-864857 <p>Do any of you guys know Mark personally? he is a great guy with a good head on his shoulder. i think you people are jealous that you didn't think of it first.</p> Do any of you guys know Mark personally? he is a great guy with a good head on his shoulder. i think you people are jealous that you didn’t think of it first.

]]> By: Marcel http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/#comment-864651 Marcel Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:01:27 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11701#comment-864651 <p>Grown man, thats harsh. I am guessing you haven't accomplished anything similar. Am i right?</p> Grown man, thats harsh. I am guessing you haven’t accomplished anything similar. Am i right?

]]> By: I Get My Grown Man On http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/#comment-864492 I Get My Grown Man On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:23:30 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11701#comment-864492 <p>"How old is Mark Z? Just give him some credit would you guys?"</p> <p>Mark is 23 years-old. He is an ADULT. He is not an adolescent. Are people in Silicion Valley really so out of touch with the real world that they can't recognize this?</p> <p>I know people Mark's age who left home at 16 and went to work so that they could pay their bills and go to college. I know Wall Street whiz kids not much older than Mark who have big responsibilities and even bigger paychecks. There are a lot of people who are in their early 20s who do "adult" things very well without requiring special treatment. Because they are ADULTS.</p> <p>So why does everybody seem to think Mark is special because of his age? He was at the right place and the right time and has milked Facebook for all it's worth. He's a paper billionaire running a bloated company that has few options as to where it can go in the immediate future - it's unlikely anybody is going to buy the company for $15 billion and the public markets won't give Facebook anywhere near a $15 billion valuation.</p> <p>It's finally show and prove time for Zuck. If he fails it won't be because of his age, it will be because of his lack of ability. Those who don't see that have some growing up of their own to do.</p> “How old is Mark Z? Just give him some credit would you guys?”

Mark is 23 years-old. He is an ADULT. He is not an adolescent. Are people in Silicion Valley really so out of touch with the real world that they can’t recognize this?

I know people Mark’s age who left home at 16 and went to work so that they could pay their bills and go to college. I know Wall Street whiz kids not much older than Mark who have big responsibilities and even bigger paychecks. There are a lot of people who are in their early 20s who do “adult” things very well without requiring special treatment. Because they are ADULTS.

So why does everybody seem to think Mark is special because of his age? He was at the right place and the right time and has milked Facebook for all it’s worth. He’s a paper billionaire running a bloated company that has few options as to where it can go in the immediate future – it’s unlikely anybody is going to buy the company for $15 billion and the public markets won’t give Facebook anywhere near a $15 billion valuation.

It’s finally show and prove time for Zuck. If he fails it won’t be because of his age, it will be because of his lack of ability. Those who don’t see that have some growing up of their own to do.

]]> By: Social Millionaire http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/#comment-864452 Social Millionaire Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:25:28 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11701#comment-864452 <p>"Also like a true entrepreneur, he doesn’t spend a lot of time apologizing for his mistakes, but opts to go out and act differently."</p> <p>Really? You should take a look at all Mark Zuckerburg's Blog Posts (http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?blog_id=company&blogger=4). Seems to me all he does is apologize for all the mistakes he makes.</p> “Also like a true entrepreneur, he doesn’t spend a lot of time apologizing for his mistakes, but opts to go out and act differently.”

Really? You should take a look at all Mark Zuckerburg’s Blog Posts (http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?blog_id=company&blogger=4). Seems to me all he does is apologize for all the mistakes he makes.

]]> By: free market research company http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/#comment-864440 free market research company Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:01:51 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11701#comment-864440 <p>Facebook - another Yahoo on the road of nowhere?</p> Facebook – another Yahoo on the road of nowhere?

]]> By: Emil http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/#comment-864387 Emil Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:31:37 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11701#comment-864387 <p>I personally think he deserves all the traction Facebook receives. He's a young man who makes mistakes but he really showed the world what a social network should be like. He's a bit snobbish though and sure Brin/Page were not like that but as time flows he'll grow up. Maybe it's going to happen faster than Facebook bubble explodes.</p> I personally think he deserves all the traction Facebook receives. He’s a young man who makes mistakes but he really showed the world what a social network should be like. He’s a bit snobbish though and sure Brin/Page were not like that but as time flows he’ll grow up. Maybe it’s going to happen faster than Facebook bubble explodes.

]]> By: fabianschonholz http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/#comment-864385 fabianschonholz Thu, 06 Mar 2008 06:50:37 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11701#comment-864385 <p>How old is Mark Z? Just give him some credit would you guys?</p> How old is Mark Z? Just give him some credit would you guys?

]]> By: David http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/#comment-864375 David Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:03:51 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11701#comment-864375 <p>I saw the TV interview (60 mins?) a few weeks ago with Zuckerberg. Although not yet grown-up, he is is growing up. He is learning to play the game... isn't that part of growing up?</p> <p>He's a 20-something programmer/billionaire presenting himself as a down to earth guy who works side by side with his team. Sure, he doesn't have all the answers (although did a good job of answering/avoiding some tough questions) but who does?</p> <p>David http:\jobsearchdigest.com</p> I saw the TV interview (60 mins?) a few weeks ago with Zuckerberg. Although not yet grown-up, he is is growing up. He is learning to play the game… isn’t that part of growing up?

He’s a 20-something programmer/billionaire presenting himself as a down to earth guy who works side by side with his team. Sure, he doesn’t have all the answers (although did a good job of answering/avoiding some tough questions) but who does?

David http:\jobsearchdigest.com

]]> By: stone http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/#comment-864305 stone Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:30:30 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11701#comment-864305 <p>I don't mean to sound obnoxious but Michael Dell, Sergey, Larry and Bill Gates are all vastly more successful than young Mark will likely ever be. There's a BUBBLE in how the market values social networking sites. Facebook has been lucky enough to get swept up in that, and they deserve to be in such company. They also have a lot to prove before I take them too seriously. That little stunt Zuckerburg pulled a few weeks back when he pre-announced a tough 2008 is very instructive. This means that they know things aren't going to be good this year and are trying to innoculate themselves against mass defections. I think they're pretty close to being in trouble. Keep your eyes on these guys.</p> I don’t mean to sound obnoxious but Michael Dell, Sergey, Larry and Bill Gates are all vastly more successful than young Mark will likely ever be. There’s a BUBBLE in how the market values social networking sites. Facebook has been lucky enough to get swept up in that, and they deserve to be in such company. They also have a lot to prove before I take them too seriously. That little stunt Zuckerburg pulled a few weeks back when he pre-announced a tough 2008 is very instructive. This means that they know things aren’t going to be good this year and are trying to innoculate themselves against mass defections. I think they’re pretty close to being in trouble. Keep your eyes on these guys.

]]> By: Curtis http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/#comment-864294 Curtis Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:07:37 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11701#comment-864294 <p>The Sandberg hire was a good move for sure. Mark Z. personally reminds me more of Scott McNealy (Sun co-fouunder) than he does of Page/Brin/Andreesen. I think each of the latter group displayed much more maturity early on in their success than Mark Z. They also weren't burdened by questions of dishonesty, integrity, and bubblicious investments.</p> <p>It'll be interesting to see this year's revenue growth given the lofty figure reported by the WSJ. My guess is that most of the $150M in 2007 came from the ad deal guarantees. I therefore expect much more challenging revenue growth ahead.</p> <p>Good luck to Facebook.... and go get 'em OM! :-)</p> The Sandberg hire was a good move for sure. Mark Z. personally reminds me more of Scott McNealy (Sun co-fouunder) than he does of Page/Brin/Andreesen. I think each of the latter group displayed much more maturity early on in their success than Mark Z. They also weren’t burdened by questions of dishonesty, integrity, and bubblicious investments.

It’ll be interesting to see this year’s revenue growth given the lofty figure reported by the WSJ. My guess is that most of the $150M in 2007 came from the ad deal guarantees. I therefore expect much more challenging revenue growth ahead.

Good luck to Facebook…. and go get ‘em OM! :-)

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/#comment-864287 Om Malik Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:24:28 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11701#comment-864287 <p>Is he growing up really? I am not sure - paint me cynical but the old hack in me doesn't buy this "i am learning and adapting act."</p> Is he growing up really? I am not sure – paint me cynical but the old hack in me doesn’t buy this “i am learning and adapting act.”

]]> By: Peter http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/zuckerberg-and-facebook-both-have-growing-pains/#comment-864286 Peter Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:16:45 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11701#comment-864286 <p>yes - Zuck is a robot, and he used to be self-absorbed - and now he's growing up - just as we predicted!</p> yes – Zuck is a robot, and he used to be self-absorbed – and now he’s growing up – just as we predicted!

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