Comments on: LTE vs WiMAX: A Little 4G Sibling Rivalry http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/ Tracking the Internet Evolution Sat, 17 May 2008 05:50:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Mohammad http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-877859 Mohammad Sun, 11 May 2008 21:03:37 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-877859 Wimax will be game changer in Wireless Industry. Basically, unleashing wired IP to Mobile IP. Watch out, Cisco, Wireless Carriers and even Cable Operators(WiMAX technically provide Cable Channels). Wimax will be game changer in Wireless Industry. Basically, unleashing wired IP to Mobile IP. Watch out, Cisco, Wireless Carriers and even Cable Operators(WiMAX technically provide Cable Channels).

]]> By: U.S. WiMAX Saved by $3.2 Billion Infusion - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-877151 U.S. WiMAX Saved by $3.2 Billion Infusion - GigaOM Tue, 06 May 2008 23:17:07 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-877151 [...] is a good chance this service comes out before the wireless guys roll out their LTE [...] [...] is a good chance this service comes out before the wireless guys roll out their LTE [...]

]]> By: Jacques http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-871164 Jacques Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:54:45 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-871164 <p>The only difference between WiMax and LTE for me is that Wimax is available now and LTE is not! Mainly consumers have the choice between Cable, DSL and Wimax. So far to my knowledge only ClearWire is offering Wimax. So why talking about LTE all the time if not available yet? Instead promote Wimax like I did in Grants Pass OR, I sold more than 700 so far and all my clients love it! They don't care if it is LTE or Wimax only that it is available and affordable. So if ATT, T-Mobile, Verizon, Sprint and Other want to sleep and wait for LTE too bad for the consumer. Hopefully Google will see that as an opportunity. If a French man can sell more than 700 ClearWire in one year in a small rural city in Oregon. One can only imagine what Google could do by investing in ClearWire!!!</p> The only difference between WiMax and LTE for me is that Wimax is available now and LTE is not!
Mainly consumers have the choice between Cable, DSL and Wimax. So far to my knowledge only ClearWire is offering Wimax. So why talking about LTE all the time if not available yet? Instead promote Wimax like I did in Grants Pass OR, I sold more than 700 so far and all my clients love it! They don’t care if it is LTE or Wimax only that it is available and affordable.
So if ATT, T-Mobile, Verizon, Sprint and Other want to sleep and wait for LTE too bad for the consumer. Hopefully Google will see that as an opportunity. If a French man can sell more than 700 ClearWire in one year in a small rural city in Oregon. One can only imagine what Google could do by investing in ClearWire!!!

]]> By: 4G Wireless & the Ensuing Bandwidth Boom - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-870765 4G Wireless & the Ensuing Bandwidth Boom - GigaOM Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:54:21 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-870765 <p>[...] because of a perceived fear of WiMAX or a sudden spurt in data revenues, the LTE announcements made earlier this year didn’t come as a [...]</p> [...] because of a perceived fear of WiMAX or a sudden spurt in data revenues, the LTE announcements made earlier this year didn’t come as a [...]

]]> By: - LTE Jumps Ahead in the Race to 4G http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-870314 - LTE Jumps Ahead in the Race to 4G Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:08:13 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-870314 <p>[...] The awkwardly named Long-Term Evolution (LTE) technology is pulling ahead in the race for the 4G wireless networks. If carrier plans are any indication, Ultra Mobile Broadband, the upgrade technology for CDMA networks, is quickly becoming a non-factor. Even WiMAX, which was at one point seen as offering significant cost and time advantages, has started to lose out to LTE. [...]</p> [...] The awkwardly named Long-Term Evolution (LTE) technology is pulling ahead in the race for the 4G wireless networks. If carrier plans are any indication, Ultra Mobile Broadband, the upgrade technology for CDMA networks, is quickly becoming a non-factor. Even WiMAX, which was at one point seen as offering significant cost and time advantages, has started to lose out to LTE. [...]

]]> By: LTE Jumps Ahead in the Race to 4G - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-870309 LTE Jumps Ahead in the Race to 4G - GigaOM Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:45:25 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-870309 <p>[...] Om Malik, Wednesday, April 9, 2008 at 7:45 AM PT Comments (0) The awkwardly named Long-Term Evolution (LTE) technology is pulling ahead in the race for the 4G wireless networks. If carrier plans are any indication, Ultra Mobile Broadband, the upgrade technology for CDMA networks, is quickly becoming a non-factor. Even WiMAX, which was at one point seen as offering significant cost and time advantages, has started to lose out to LTE. [...]</p> [...] Om Malik, Wednesday, April 9, 2008 at 7:45 AM PT Comments (0) The awkwardly named Long-Term Evolution (LTE) technology is pulling ahead in the race for the 4G wireless networks. If carrier plans are any indication, Ultra Mobile Broadband, the upgrade technology for CDMA networks, is quickly becoming a non-factor. Even WiMAX, which was at one point seen as offering significant cost and time advantages, has started to lose out to LTE. [...]

]]> By: Sajal http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-867945 Sajal Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:18:22 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-867945 <p>I completely agree with Clonmore. Hey, even now, EV-DO Rev B and HSPA have higher throughput than Wimax(802.16e). The only way Wimax could be widely successful is if Intel integrates it in all it's chips, and consumers find it easier to upgrade using laptop rather than just the operator.. kind of like finding wifi.</p> I completely agree with Clonmore. Hey, even now, EV-DO Rev B and HSPA have higher throughput than Wimax(802.16e). The only way Wimax could be widely successful is if Intel integrates it in all it’s chips, and consumers find it easier to upgrade using laptop rather than just the operator.. kind of like finding wifi.

]]> By: CableCos Join The $3 Billion US WiMAX Rescue Act - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-867379 CableCos Join The $3 Billion US WiMAX Rescue Act - GigaOM Wed, 26 Mar 2008 05:28:23 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-867379 <p>[...] also wants to get the network up and running so they upstage AT&T and Verizon in the 4G race. (Read: LTE vs WiMAX) Sprint did quite well when it launched its PCS network before rivals and won market share by [...]</p> [...] also wants to get the network up and running so they upstage AT&T and Verizon in the 4G race. (Read: LTE vs WiMAX) Sprint did quite well when it launched its PCS network before rivals and won market share by [...]

]]> By: Altair Tosses Its Chips Into the WiMax Ring - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-865115 Altair Tosses Its Chips Into the WiMax Ring - GigaOM Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:00:40 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-865115 <p>[...] is now sampling chips, has some cool attributes worth nothing, especially for those interested in 4G mobile networks. First off, the chip it’s launching today — to deliver Mobile WiMax — is really [...]</p> [...] is now sampling chips, has some cool attributes worth nothing, especially for those interested in 4G mobile networks. First off, the chip it’s launching today — to deliver Mobile WiMax — is really [...]

]]> By: Naheed Vora http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-864455 Naheed Vora Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:23:57 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-864455 <p>I think LTE being based on a flat architecture, there are more parallels between WiMaX and LTE than the differences. In long term, the evolution (Pun intended) would be driven by cost factor and timing.</p> <p>WiMaX at this stage has benefit of timing, whereas LTE trumps from cost factor (upgrade path). If 80% operators move towards LTE in the future, then it remains to be seen how much interoperability would be implemented between this two competing standards and how much the big operators would be willing to make that happen.</p> <p>Having said that, LTE has interim solutions as mentioned by Clonmore, whereas WiMaX is working on 802.16m to match LTE on performance levels. Looking at whole picture, we see quite similar architectures in 2012, but question is how do you get there ?</p> <p>Disclaimer: I work for NSN and have worked on both technologies and do not advocate any one in particular.</p> I think LTE being based on a flat architecture, there are more parallels between WiMaX and LTE than the differences. In long term, the evolution (Pun intended) would be driven by cost factor and timing.

WiMaX at this stage has benefit of timing, whereas LTE trumps from cost factor (upgrade path). If 80% operators move towards LTE in the future, then it remains to be seen how much interoperability would be implemented between this two competing standards and how much the big operators would be willing to make that happen.

Having said that, LTE has interim solutions as mentioned by Clonmore, whereas WiMaX is working on 802.16m to match LTE on performance levels. Looking at whole picture, we see quite similar architectures in 2012, but question is how do you get there ?

Disclaimer: I work for NSN and have worked on both technologies and do not advocate any one in particular.

]]> By: Clonmore http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-864408 Clonmore Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:14:03 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-864408 <p>@Shah, my point is that if you're an operator on 3PGG you get enhanced network performance by upgrading to HSPA+ (software and i think moderate hardware upgrades) at a lesser cost to the financial outlay on a totally new infrastructure in the form of WiMAX. Cost on HSPA+ is less and yet the service improvement offers a bridge between 3G and LTE.</p> <p>Whether of not WiMAX is IP-based is not important, it is all about QoS for the customer. I'm by no means an advocate of HSPA/LTE but this point hadn't been addressed.</p> @Shah, my point is that if you’re an operator on 3PGG you get enhanced network performance by upgrading to HSPA+ (software and i think moderate hardware upgrades) at a lesser cost to the financial outlay on a totally new infrastructure in the form of WiMAX. Cost on HSPA+ is less and yet the service improvement offers a bridge between 3G and LTE.

Whether of not WiMAX is IP-based is not important, it is all about QoS for the customer. I’m by no means an advocate of HSPA/LTE but this point hadn’t been addressed.

]]> By: Michael http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-864394 Michael Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:15:47 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-864394 <p>Hey wait a minute! Philadelphia may be "colder" than Austin, but by Tartu standards it is almost tropical (a bit of fun from probably the only reader who has lived in both places).</p> Hey wait a minute! Philadelphia may be “colder” than Austin, but by Tartu standards it is almost tropical (a bit of fun from probably the only reader who has lived in both places).

]]> By: techboy2000 http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-864383 techboy2000 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 06:13:09 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-864383 <p>80% of the world will go to LTE (I think it will be closer to 90%). The wildly successful biggest carriers in the USA (AT&T, Verizon) are going to LTE. The punch drunk, comical, and strategically challenged Sprint is going to use WiMax. Hmm, as a manufacturer of cool mobile devices who will I target for my best devices?</p> <p>Game over, WiMax will be a cute little rural niche. Do I paint a correct picture, or do I exaggerate?</p> 80% of the world will go to LTE (I think it will be closer to 90%). The wildly successful biggest carriers in the USA (AT&T, Verizon) are going to LTE. The punch drunk, comical, and strategically challenged Sprint is going to use WiMax. Hmm, as a manufacturer of cool mobile devices who will I target for my best devices?

Game over, WiMax will be a cute little rural niche. Do I paint a correct picture, or do I exaggerate?

]]> By: yooflix.com http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-864349 yooflix.com Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:17:30 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-864349 <p>A wimax presentation</p> <p>http://yooflix.com/ShowVideo.aspx?directLink=http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=211158308408628866</p> A wimax presentation

http://yooflix.com/ShowVideo.aspx?directLink=http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docid=211158308408628866

]]> By: Shah Ullah http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-864331 Shah Ullah Thu, 06 Mar 2008 00:21:34 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-864331 <p>Clonmore: If WiMax is IP-enabled and has much lower operating expenditures than HSPA+, does it still negate its time advantage over LTE? If so, please explain why.</p> Clonmore: If WiMax is IP-enabled and has much lower operating expenditures than HSPA+, does it still negate its time advantage over LTE? If so, please explain why.

]]> By: WiMax vs LTE | Струва си! http://gigaom.com/2008/03/05/a-little-4g-sibling-rivalry/#comment-864284 WiMax vs LTE | Струва си! Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:03:29 +0000 http://gigaom.com/?p=11695#comment-864284 <p>[...] Капитал LTE можел да препъне WiMax. Според GigaOM - по-скоро ще се [...]</p> [...] Капитал LTE можел да препъне WiMax. Според GigaOM - по-скоро ще се [...]

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