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		<title>By: ItSalesGeek</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-926904</link>
		<dc:creator>ItSalesGeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 13:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The layoff list is just increasing.
http://toostep.com/insight/layoffs-soar-as-india-plunges-deeper-into-recession

God help us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The layoff list is just increasing.<br />
<a href="http://toostep.com/insight/layoffs-soar-as-india-plunges-deeper-into-recession" rel="nofollow">http://toostep.com/insight/layoffs-soar-as-india-plunges-deeper-into-recession</a></p>
<p>God help us</p>
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		<title>By: http://cisco.nosle.com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-924008</link>
		<dc:creator>http://cisco.nosle.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 07:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to mention that there was a news about richardson layoffs. But that was I think more of a reorg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to mention that there was a news about richardson layoffs. But that was I think more of a reorg.</p>
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		<title>By: suire</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-924007</link>
		<dc:creator>suire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 07:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not easy to get information about layoffs. Even managers will not know about it. So it is almost always speculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not easy to get information about layoffs. Even managers will not know about it. So it is almost always speculation.</p>
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		<title>By: po.an</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-923693</link>
		<dc:creator>po.an</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hah!! A year nearly and counting.. No layoffs yet.. Mr. Malik, any comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hah!! A year nearly and counting.. No layoffs yet.. Mr. Malik, any comments?</p>
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		<title>By: Hemalatha Manohar</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-913744</link>
		<dc:creator>Hemalatha Manohar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cisco has decided to layoff nobody. Some internal restructuring have been done and may perhaps take place in the recent future. However, no layoffs is promised as there is no need for the same. All new hiring is frozen indefinitely until mid next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cisco has decided to layoff nobody. Some internal restructuring have been done and may perhaps take place in the recent future. However, no layoffs is promised as there is no need for the same. All new hiring is frozen indefinitely until mid next year.</p>
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		<title>By: router</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-901104</link>
		<dc:creator>router</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has begun.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has begun&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: dean</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-895700</link>
		<dc:creator>dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do we have a date for the layoff?  How many people?</description>
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		<title>By: gc</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-868297</link>
		<dc:creator>gc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In the event of a layoff, how will the incoming new employees who just got hired last fall but haven&#039;t started working until this summer, be affected? I heard from my sources that CSCO did revoke offers in 2001, but the current recession is nowhere as big as the 2001 bust in the tech sector. Should I, as a pending new hire, be worried?
Sincerely,&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the event of a layoff, how will the incoming new employees who just got hired last fall but haven&#8217;t started working until this summer, be affected? I heard from my sources that CSCO did revoke offers in 2001, but the current recession is nowhere as big as the 2001 bust in the tech sector. Should I, as a pending new hire, be worried?<br />
Sincerely,</p>
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		<title>By: blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-868100</link>
		<dc:creator>blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 22:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;there are several great points here. a few others i&#039;d like to make&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;CAGR Salary growth in China and India, is double digits, between 10-20% per annum.  US CAGR is negligable.  If India is 64k already, on a cost basis relocating staff to india makes little sense, especially when computing a 5 year forecast plan like JC likes to do.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Headcount costs are an overly simplified and myopic metric, but simple to compute.  American Corps get tax benefits for offshore opEX, there are revenue and branding and licensing profit diversions, and lax regulations, and taxes advantages in emerging markets.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;the real issue is building R&amp;D organizations which produce world class products.  to collaborate efficiently in offshore/multisite development.  headcount costs don&#039;t consider any of these costs.  research shows that core development teams working in a geographic in areas of core competency, way out-perform, the overly simplistic &#039;offshore headcount&#039; paradigm.  google understands this, and manages accordingly.  thats why they continue to invest all over, especially in the bay area.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;JC hasn&#039;t done a very good job of managing CSCO; he pretty much grows it into boom then bust.  In 2001, he claimed it was his biggest failure, yet here we go again.. surprise surprise.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cisco is too big, should be split up in to fledgling emerging market companies, which would permit a greater share valuation for investors and employees.  You can&#039;t aggregate 60% growth in a small emerging market into a large 10%/annum growth company, it just doesn&#039;t scale.
But JC insists.. this is the way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cisco has lost 2 extremely excellent CEO replacements cause of chamber&#039;s  obstinate ways.  If JC does this at the top of CSCO, the raises and career growth opportunities, are certainly stiffled.  The CEO sets the tone for the entire organization.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;so again, the employees feel the pain, of staff compression, layoffs, workload expansion, little stock appreciation, disruptions, shareholders get marginal appreciation, and the industry gets expensive moderately emerging products.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Moving CSCO around the globe won&#039;t make it perform better.  The problem resides here on Tasman... ,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Chambers continues to sail the ship of Cisco, like Capt&#039;n Jack, down the next trough, into the next big swell, employees and products swept overboard.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are several great points here. a few others i&#8217;d like to make</p>
<p>CAGR Salary growth in China and India, is double digits, between 10-20% per annum.  US CAGR is negligable.  If India is 64k already, on a cost basis relocating staff to india makes little sense, especially when computing a 5 year forecast plan like JC likes to do.</p>
<p>Headcount costs are an overly simplified and myopic metric, but simple to compute.  American Corps get tax benefits for offshore opEX, there are revenue and branding and licensing profit diversions, and lax regulations, and taxes advantages in emerging markets.</p>
<p>the real issue is building R&amp;D organizations which produce world class products.  to collaborate efficiently in offshore/multisite development.  headcount costs don&#8217;t consider any of these costs.  research shows that core development teams working in a geographic in areas of core competency, way out-perform, the overly simplistic &#8216;offshore headcount&#8217; paradigm.  google understands this, and manages accordingly.  thats why they continue to invest all over, especially in the bay area.</p>
<p>JC hasn&#8217;t done a very good job of managing CSCO; he pretty much grows it into boom then bust.  In 2001, he claimed it was his biggest failure, yet here we go again.. surprise surprise.</p>
<p>Cisco is too big, should be split up in to fledgling emerging market companies, which would permit a greater share valuation for investors and employees.  You can&#8217;t aggregate 60% growth in a small emerging market into a large 10%/annum growth company, it just doesn&#8217;t scale.<br />
But JC insists.. this is the way.</p>
<p>Cisco has lost 2 extremely excellent CEO replacements cause of chamber&#8217;s  obstinate ways.  If JC does this at the top of CSCO, the raises and career growth opportunities, are certainly stiffled.  The CEO sets the tone for the entire organization.</p>
<p>so again, the employees feel the pain, of staff compression, layoffs, workload expansion, little stock appreciation, disruptions, shareholders get marginal appreciation, and the industry gets expensive moderately emerging products.</p>
<p>Moving CSCO around the globe won&#8217;t make it perform better.  The problem resides here on Tasman&#8230; ,</p>
<p>Chambers continues to sail the ship of Cisco, like Capt&#8217;n Jack, down the next trough, into the next big swell, employees and products swept overboard.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-862691</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Any word yet on this &#039;so called&#039; layoff?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any word yet on this &#8217;so called&#8217; layoff?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-862237</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Stock options aren&#039;t worth anything if the stock doesn&#039;t go up.  So how can you say shareholders suffer but management is making a windfall on stock options?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stock options aren&#8217;t worth anything if the stock doesn&#8217;t go up.  So how can you say shareholders suffer but management is making a windfall on stock options?</p>
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		<title>By: shhh</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-862004</link>
		<dc:creator>shhh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cisco laid off hundreds of employees (US and Canada) in October 2007 and replaced those employees with new hires in India. Not a peep on the web about that layoff. Job reqs in Bangalore about 500 right now.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cisco laid off hundreds of employees (US and Canada) in October 2007 and replaced those employees with new hires in India. Not a peep on the web about that layoff. Job reqs in Bangalore about 500 right now.</p>
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		<title>By: mmm</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-861650</link>
		<dc:creator>mmm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Indian Engineers were $6K in 1999 and are $65K now.  This comes from a slide preso I was witness to just a week or so ago at a local multinational.  Hiring offshore is not the huge cost savings it was made out to be years ago.  It makes sense  to hire Indian workers for deployment in India but nowhere else.  As far as Cisco stock please quit blaming stock options, the problem with the stock markets has nothing to do with one specific issue, it is a market wide thing which is more related to the dollar and overspending by our government than anything else. We have had underperforming markets this entire decade.  At this point if I was an investor in Cisco I would rather them give out stock options than hard cash since those stock options seem to have a very low payout.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indian Engineers were $6K in 1999 and are $65K now.  This comes from a slide preso I was witness to just a week or so ago at a local multinational.  Hiring offshore is not the huge cost savings it was made out to be years ago.  It makes sense  to hire Indian workers for deployment in India but nowhere else.  As far as Cisco stock please quit blaming stock options, the problem with the stock markets has nothing to do with one specific issue, it is a market wide thing which is more related to the dollar and overspending by our government than anything else. We have had underperforming markets this entire decade.  At this point if I was an investor in Cisco I would rather them give out stock options than hard cash since those stock options seem to have a very low payout.</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-861488</link>
		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 19:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Investors who lost money on Cisco are real people too.  They watch their retirement investment
goes down the toilet while Chambers and his employees cash in their stock options.  Do remember
that the investors are real people who get affected as well.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Investors who lost money on Cisco are real people too.  They watch their retirement investment<br />
goes down the toilet while Chambers and his employees cash in their stock options.  Do remember<br />
that the investors are real people who get affected as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-861424</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 08:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;All you folks out there who talk about how much reduction is good for business, do remember that employess are real people who get affected.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you folks out there who talk about how much reduction is good for business, do remember that employess are real people who get affected.</p>
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		<title>By: H</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/12/cisco-layoffs-in-the-offing/#comment-861387</link>
		<dc:creator>H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cisco laid off 1200 in Q208?  Where did you find out?  There is no public info as far as I know.
Having said that 1200 is really nothing considering they have 65K employees.  With decleration
growth for at least next 5 quarters, the company needs to cut at least 15% of workforce to
align their expenses.  Chambers isn&#039;t doing a good job, IMHO.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cisco laid off 1200 in Q208?  Where did you find out?  There is no public info as far as I know.<br />
Having said that 1200 is really nothing considering they have 65K employees.  With decleration<br />
growth for at least next 5 quarters, the company needs to cut at least 15% of workforce to<br />
align their expenses.  Chambers isn&#8217;t doing a good job, IMHO.</p>
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