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		<title>By: Flo Rohlf</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/06/data-property-rights-not-portability/#comment-582231</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Flo Rohlf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey There. I found your blog using msn. This is a very well written article. I’ll be sure to bookmark it and come back to read more of your useful information. Thanks for the post. I will definitely comeback.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey There. I found your blog using msn. This is a very well written article. I’ll be sure to bookmark it and come back to read more of your useful information. Thanks for the post. I will definitely comeback.</p>
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		<title>By: steve caturan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/06/data-property-rights-not-portability/#comment-192981</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[steve caturan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 05:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a handful of misunderstood ideas of &quot;data portability&quot; before I read your article. Now I have a better idea how to convey what it really means. Thanks very much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a handful of misunderstood ideas of &#8220;data portability&#8221; before I read your article. Now I have a better idea how to convey what it really means. Thanks very much.</p>
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		<title>By: Data Portability</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/06/data-property-rights-not-portability/#comment-192980</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Data Portability]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] conflict and in the process the user may lose his rights over his own data, very aptly phrased by Nitin Borwankar at Gigaom as  “The real problem — and the elephant in the room – is not whether web app [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] conflict and in the process the user may lose his rights over his own data, very aptly phrased by Nitin Borwankar at Gigaom as  “The real problem — and the elephant in the room – is not whether web app [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Data portability on social networks : Bain or Boon ? &#124; !!pseudonormicks!!</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/06/data-property-rights-not-portability/#comment-192979</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Data portability on social networks : Bain or Boon ? &#124; !!pseudonormicks!!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] conflict and in the process the user may lose his rights over his own data, very aptly phrased by Nitin Borwankar at Gigaom as  “The real problem — and the elephant in the room – is not whether web app [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] conflict and in the process the user may lose his rights over his own data, very aptly phrased by Nitin Borwankar at Gigaom as  “The real problem — and the elephant in the room – is not whether web app [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Data Standards for Web Applications &#124; Inspired? No</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/06/data-property-rights-not-portability/#comment-192978</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Data Standards for Web Applications &#124; Inspired? No]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 12:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Data Property Rights, Not Portability [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Uttenicen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/06/data-property-rights-not-portability/#comment-192977</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Uttenicen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 18:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello there,

Been reading many us are feedup with the huge ebay fees they are charging.  I was too, so thouht I was share my info on how I continue to sell many items and pay no listing fees.  After some research a few months ago I found:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freead2u.com/index.php?id=5&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TheStreet&lt;/a&gt; - This is totaly free to signup, use, list and sell your items and has over 4 million views a day.  I&#039;ve found it extremelty usful for UK sales.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.freead2u.com/index.php?id=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CQOUT&lt;/a&gt;- Simply put this is Ebay only worldwide competitior, they do charge a $1 signup fee to prove your identity.  However all listings are totaly free upto $200 and multimillion views daily from all over the world.  This I found is especially good for the US market.

I hope this help some of you improve your sales on this bad time of world econimic markets, so it can only help to get free advertising and sell your items.  If anyone knows anymore, please post here so I too can benifit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello there,</p>
<p>Been reading many us are feedup with the huge ebay fees they are charging.  I was too, so thouht I was share my info on how I continue to sell many items and pay no listing fees.  After some research a few months ago I found:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freead2u.com/index.php?id=5" rel="nofollow">TheStreet</a> &#8211; This is totaly free to signup, use, list and sell your items and has over 4 million views a day.  I&#8217;ve found it extremelty usful for UK sales.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freead2u.com/index.php?id=2" rel="nofollow">CQOUT</a>- Simply put this is Ebay only worldwide competitior, they do charge a $1 signup fee to prove your identity.  However all listings are totaly free upto $200 and multimillion views daily from all over the world.  This I found is especially good for the US market.</p>
<p>I hope this help some of you improve your sales on this bad time of world econimic markets, so it can only help to get free advertising and sell your items.  If anyone knows anymore, please post here so I too can benifit.</p>
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		<title>By: Data standards for web applications &#124; CloudAve</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/06/data-property-rights-not-portability/#comment-192976</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Data standards for web applications &#124; CloudAve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] regarding data formats in the cloud or moving your data from one vendor to another?Related articles:Data Property Rights, Not PortabilitySaas Vendors should care about data portabilityWho will control your data in the web 3.0 world?Tim [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] regarding data formats in the cloud or moving your data from one vendor to another?Related articles:Data Property Rights, Not PortabilitySaas Vendors should care about data portabilityWho will control your data in the web 3.0 world?Tim [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Data portability on social networks : Bain or Boon ? &#124; Lavin Mirchandani .com</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/06/data-property-rights-not-portability/#comment-192975</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Data portability on social networks : Bain or Boon ? &#124; Lavin Mirchandani .com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 11:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] conflict and in the process the user may lose his rights over his own data, very aptly phrased by Nitin Borwankar at Gigaom as “The real problem — and the elephant in the room – is not whether web app [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] conflict and in the process the user may lose his rights over his own data, very aptly phrased by Nitin Borwankar at Gigaom as “The real problem — and the elephant in the room – is not whether web app [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Reid</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/06/data-property-rights-not-portability/#comment-192974</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Reid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 06:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This makes me think of traditional business models surrounding being a trustee for other people&#039;s property: the classic model is banking. With a bank, I place my money in their trust, and am free to withdraw the money according to the agreement I have with them (ie savings / chequeing / fixed term investment account types). Conversely, while they have my money they are free to invest that money for their own profit (again, within certain limits - for example maybe I would specify that arms and tobacco investments are off-limits).

In the same way, for a piece of data or content that I own, I can choose which &quot;trustee&quot; I place my data with and can &quot;withdraw&quot; (ie to another service provider) my data according to the terms of my service agreement. Meanwhile, that trustee is free to try and make profits from my content by driving advertising, social mapping or other revenue from it.

Sounds fair enough to me.

Couple of afterthoughts, however:
- Banking is regulated: the internet will potentially need a regulator to achieve the &quot;liquidity&quot; of content outlined above.
- If these content ownership rules become embedded in internet culture over the next few years, and Facebook, YouTube and all the rest are just trusted, temporary custodians of their customer&#039;s content: what implications does that have for internet company valuations?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me think of traditional business models surrounding being a trustee for other people&#8217;s property: the classic model is banking. With a bank, I place my money in their trust, and am free to withdraw the money according to the agreement I have with them (ie savings / chequeing / fixed term investment account types). Conversely, while they have my money they are free to invest that money for their own profit (again, within certain limits &#8211; for example maybe I would specify that arms and tobacco investments are off-limits).</p>
<p>In the same way, for a piece of data or content that I own, I can choose which &#8220;trustee&#8221; I place my data with and can &#8220;withdraw&#8221; (ie to another service provider) my data according to the terms of my service agreement. Meanwhile, that trustee is free to try and make profits from my content by driving advertising, social mapping or other revenue from it.</p>
<p>Sounds fair enough to me.</p>
<p>Couple of afterthoughts, however:<br />
- Banking is regulated: the internet will potentially need a regulator to achieve the &#8220;liquidity&#8221; of content outlined above.<br />
- If these content ownership rules become embedded in internet culture over the next few years, and Facebook, YouTube and all the rest are just trusted, temporary custodians of their customer&#8217;s content: what implications does that have for internet company valuations?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/06/data-property-rights-not-portability/#comment-192973</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 01:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Insightful look at the project, you&#039;ve given me a lot to think about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insightful look at the project, you&#8217;ve given me a lot to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: MySpace Builds a Bigger Walled Garden - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/06/data-property-rights-not-portability/#comment-192972</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MySpace Builds a Bigger Walled Garden - GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] in to sharing their MySpace information on a variety of partner sites. While not exactly complete data portability (the social networking company also said it was joining the Data Portability Project), it&#8217;s a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in to sharing their MySpace information on a variety of partner sites. While not exactly complete data portability (the social networking company also said it was joining the Data Portability Project), it&#8217;s a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Wilkinson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/06/data-property-rights-not-portability/#comment-192971</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Philip Wilkinson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Completely agree - the user owns the data and not the website.  Something Facebook seemed to have forgotten when they tried to make money out of it all with Beacon.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely agree &#8211; the user owns the data and not the website.  Something Facebook seemed to have forgotten when they tried to make money out of it all with Beacon.</p>
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		<title>By: Adriana Lukas</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/06/data-property-rights-not-portability/#comment-192970</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adriana Lukas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I agree with you that the &#039;pure&#039; data portability cannot be the whole story. I see it as a subset of a bigger shift towards the individual user where the data ultimate comes under his/her &#039;sphere of influence&#039;. I have been working (with others with Project VRM) explicitly on the kind of &#039;new “data infrastructure” layer of the Internet operating system&#039; you hint at.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/02/power-to-the-persons-redux/
http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/02/social-cloud-and-the-blue-pill/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Btw, I am a keen supporter of dataportability.org... taking the toys (data) away from web apps and platform owners should bring some interesting developments. :)&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you that the &#8216;pure&#8217; data portability cannot be the whole story. I see it as a subset of a bigger shift towards the individual user where the data ultimate comes under his/her &#8216;sphere of influence&#8217;. I have been working (with others with Project VRM) explicitly on the kind of &#8216;new “data infrastructure” layer of the Internet operating system&#8217; you hint at.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/02/power-to-the-persons-redux/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/02/power-to-the-persons-redux/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/02/social-cloud-and-the-blue-pill/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediainfluencer.net/2008/02/social-cloud-and-the-blue-pill/</a></p>
<p>Btw, I am a keen supporter of dataportability.org&#8230; taking the toys (data) away from web apps and platform owners should bring some interesting developments. :)</p>
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		<title>By: This Week&#8217;s Bookmarks at Not So Relevant</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[This Week&#8217;s Bookmarks at Not So Relevant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Data Property Rights, Not Portability - GigaOM [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
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		<title>By: Data portability meeting in San Francisco &#171; foldier&#8217;s blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/02/06/data-property-rights-not-portability/#comment-192968</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Data portability meeting in San Francisco &#171; foldier&#8217;s blog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Q dub</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Q dub]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Great thoughts Nitin,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I sincerely hope that pay-for-meter becomes more popular in the future.  The penny-gap is largely a cultural phenomenon where people think the internet should be both free as in speech and free as in beer, combined with the lack of a really simple and ubiquitous micro-payment provider.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But until then, a majority of startups will depend on the very very unoriginal &quot;lets get popular and stick ads in there!&quot; business model, upon which raw data accessibility is not easily monetizeable.  I don&#039;t think Amazon S3 is a good analogy: it&#039;s customer base are the content/application providers, who are business and don&#039;t really exhibit a penny gap like consumers do.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thoughts Nitin,</p>
<p>I sincerely hope that pay-for-meter becomes more popular in the future.  The penny-gap is largely a cultural phenomenon where people think the internet should be both free as in speech and free as in beer, combined with the lack of a really simple and ubiquitous micro-payment provider.</p>
<p>But until then, a majority of startups will depend on the very very unoriginal &#8220;lets get popular and stick ads in there!&#8221; business model, upon which raw data accessibility is not easily monetizeable.  I don&#8217;t think Amazon S3 is a good analogy: it&#8217;s customer base are the content/application providers, who are business and don&#8217;t really exhibit a penny gap like consumers do.</p>
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