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		<title>By: UK Minister Wants to Personally Zap File-Sharers</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]      It seems the British government is going loony for anti-piracy rhetoric from the likes of U2 and David Geffen. Legislation proposed in the UK today would allow government ministers to cut off [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]      It seems the British government is going loony for anti-piracy rhetoric from the likes of U2 and David Geffen. Legislation proposed in the UK today would allow government ministers to cut off [...]</p>
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		<title>By: UK Wants to Zap File-Sharers</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192486</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UK Wants to Zap File-Sharers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...]  It seems the British government is going loony for anti-piracy rhetoric from the likes of U2 and David [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: - Six of One, Half Dozen of the Other?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192485</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[- Six of One, Half Dozen of the Other?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 04:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] business. If you have read any of my previous posts on this topic, you know I have taken to task U2’s manager and UK ISPs, not to mention writing a bitterly sarcastic, Swift-like proposal to disconnect the [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] business. If you have read any of my previous posts on this topic, you know I have taken to task U2’s manager and UK ISPs, not to mention writing a bitterly sarcastic, Swift-like proposal to disconnect the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Six of One, Half Dozen of the Other? - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192484</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Six of One, Half Dozen of the Other? - GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 03:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] business. If you have read any of my previous posts on this topic, you know I have taken to task U2’s manager and UK ISPs, not to mention writing a bitterly sarcastic, Swift-like proposal to disconnect the [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] business. If you have read any of my previous posts on this topic, you know I have taken to task U2’s manager and UK ISPs, not to mention writing a bitterly sarcastic, Swift-like proposal to disconnect the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Save Music &#8212; Disconnect the Internet! - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192483</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Save Music &#8212; Disconnect the Internet! - GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] in the United Kingdom, France and Australia. When these ridiculous proposals first popped up, I publicly flamed the manager of my favorite band. Then I went to town on the proposed UK enforcement [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the United Kingdom, France and Australia. When these ridiculous proposals first popped up, I publicly flamed the manager of my favorite band. Then I went to town on the proposed UK enforcement [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gerd Leonhard</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192482</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gerd Leonhard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I just posted a rather lengthy reply to Paul McGuinness MIDEM rant here:  http://www.mediafuturist.com/2008/02/welcome-to-paul.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;... This kind of ridiculous whining about other people making billions of dollars of the back of artists is usually reserved to industry lobbyists, Paul – what in the world happened to you??  It is nobody’s job to ‘save the recorded music industry’ but OURS i.e. those that are in this industry (counting myself in here, for now) – why would any of these people be responsible for the recorded music industry’s future?  While I understand the emotional part I fail to see your business logic here, Paul. We could have provided licenses to all those companies and people a long time ago. We could have collected a revenue share. We could have used their networks to upsell to other music services. We COULD HAVE.  But then there is people like you and all those incumbents you so happily count as friends that would rather stay in total control than collect those new monies, and that would rather call the police than to change their outdated assumptions and business practices.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Here is my bottom line to you, with all due respect for your great work with your artists, Paul: get with the new program or at least move out of the way, and plant your poison pills somewhere else.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Nobody wants the Internet you are calling for, and nobody will want that secure safe controlled and policed music machine you long for....&quot;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just posted a rather lengthy reply to Paul McGuinness MIDEM rant here:  <a href="http://www.mediafuturist.com/2008/02/welcome-to-paul.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediafuturist.com/2008/02/welcome-to-paul.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; This kind of ridiculous whining about other people making billions of dollars of the back of artists is usually reserved to industry lobbyists, Paul – what in the world happened to you??  It is nobody’s job to ‘save the recorded music industry’ but OURS i.e. those that are in this industry (counting myself in here, for now) – why would any of these people be responsible for the recorded music industry’s future?  While I understand the emotional part I fail to see your business logic here, Paul. We could have provided licenses to all those companies and people a long time ago. We could have collected a revenue share. We could have used their networks to upsell to other music services. We COULD HAVE.  But then there is people like you and all those incumbents you so happily count as friends that would rather stay in total control than collect those new monies, and that would rather call the police than to change their outdated assumptions and business practices.</p>
<p>Here is my bottom line to you, with all due respect for your great work with your artists, Paul: get with the new program or at least move out of the way, and plant your poison pills somewhere else.</p>
<p>Nobody wants the Internet you are calling for, and nobody will want that secure safe controlled and policed music machine you long for&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Asprey</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192481</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Asprey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 05:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s always fun to wear Napster or Bit Torrent t-shirts to U2 and Metallica concerts...&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s always fun to wear Napster or Bit Torrent t-shirts to U2 and Metallica concerts&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Are They ISPs, or Are They Bobbies? - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192480</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Are They ISPs, or Are They Bobbies? - GigaOM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] Leinwand, Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 9:01 AM PT Comments (0)   The “No-Bits List” I facetiously proposed late last month in response to a speech made by U2’s manager may soon become reality in the UK, [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Leinwand, Tuesday, February 12, 2008 at 9:01 AM PT Comments (0)   The “No-Bits List” I facetiously proposed late last month in response to a speech made by U2’s manager may soon become reality in the UK, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dimitrios Matsoulis</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192479</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dimitrios Matsoulis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;It is typical to blame others when you have nothing really meaningful and viable to propose. The Internet can be easily blamed as it is not a person to answer back.
http://electronrun.wordpress.com/&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is typical to blame others when you have nothing really meaningful and viable to propose. The Internet can be easily blamed as it is not a person to answer back.<br />
<a href="http://electronrun.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://electronrun.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Allan Leinwand</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192478</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allan Leinwand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@Paul - Thanks for your thoughts.  You are right - the Internet and related technologies is just another delivery model.  Don&#039;t blame the infrastructure for how folks use it...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@Loring - not an issue - thanks again for the link.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul &#8211; Thanks for your thoughts.  You are right &#8211; the Internet and related technologies is just another delivery model.  Don&#8217;t blame the infrastructure for how folks use it&#8230;</p>
<p>@Loring &#8211; not an issue &#8211; thanks again for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Loring Wirbel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192477</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loring Wirbel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 16:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Allan, a thousand pardons, so many bloggers had used the Billboard magazine posting of McGuinness&#039;s speech, I didn&#039;t bother to check your reference.  You were aware of U2 themselves hosting the speech before most were...&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allan, a thousand pardons, so many bloggers had used the Billboard magazine posting of McGuinness&#8217;s speech, I didn&#8217;t bother to check your reference.  You were aware of U2 themselves hosting the speech before most were&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192476</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Allan&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Your post got me thinking, its the middlemen who are stirring here. The internet delivery model should be a good thing for the artists if done properly.... U2 seem to have become the establishment&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;my thoughts if you are interested http://unreasonablemen.net/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=blogcategory&amp;id=27&amp;Itemid=42&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allan</p>
<p>Your post got me thinking, its the middlemen who are stirring here. The internet delivery model should be a good thing for the artists if done properly&#8230;. U2 seem to have become the establishment</p>
<p>my thoughts if you are interested <a href="http://unreasonablemen.net/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=blogcategory&#038;id=27&#038;Itemid=42" rel="nofollow">http://unreasonablemen.net/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=blogcategory&#038;id=27&#038;Itemid=42</a></p>
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		<title>By: Allan Leinwand</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192475</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allan Leinwand]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;@Loring - thanks for the link. I think this is the same link I provided in the post.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Loring &#8211; thanks for the link. I think this is the same link I provided in the post.</p>
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		<title>By: Loring Wirbel</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192474</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Loring Wirbel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;U2 has posted the speech on the band web site, providing implied agreement:
http://www.u2.com/news/index.php?mode=full&amp;news_id=2196&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As far as I&#039;m concerned, when McGuinness rails against hippie values and the memory of Abbie Hoffman, while encouraging the bullying of ISPs, it virtually negates all the so-called do-gooder work Bono does in matters of debt and world hunger.  Bono, say it ain&#039;t so!  Wait a minute - Bono bullied Negativland over copyright issues and cozied up to Paul Wolfowitz.  Guess he was nothing but a creep to begin with.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U2 has posted the speech on the band web site, providing implied agreement:<br />
<a href="http://www.u2.com/news/index.php?mode=full&#038;news_id=2196" rel="nofollow">http://www.u2.com/news/index.php?mode=full&#038;news_id=2196</a></p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned, when McGuinness rails against hippie values and the memory of Abbie Hoffman, while encouraging the bullying of ISPs, it virtually negates all the so-called do-gooder work Bono does in matters of debt and world hunger.  Bono, say it ain&#8217;t so!  Wait a minute &#8211; Bono bullied Negativland over copyright issues and cozied up to Paul Wolfowitz.  Guess he was nothing but a creep to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: David Mullings</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192473</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Mullings]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Your analogy using the road and who polices them is a good one and I hope that more people realize where the responsibility really lies.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The first place blame should be cast is labels - they have pretty much stuck to their high CD prices despite the cost of the medium going down, effectively robbing consumers. People do still buy music, but the labels are fighting the 99c model as well, why? - so that they can jack up the price on the songs they see fit, once again showing their greed.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your analogy using the road and who polices them is a good one and I hope that more people realize where the responsibility really lies.</p>
<p>The first place blame should be cast is labels &#8211; they have pretty much stuck to their high CD prices despite the cost of the medium going down, effectively robbing consumers. People do still buy music, but the labels are fighting the 99c model as well, why? &#8211; so that they can jack up the price on the songs they see fit, once again showing their greed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/30/the-internet-where-the-managers-have-no-game/#comment-192472</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Well, just because of that mr McGuinness, i&#039;m going to download an U2 album on The Pirate Bay! HA HA&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;( Just Kidding! )&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, just because of that mr McGuinness, i&#8217;m going to download an U2 album on The Pirate Bay! HA HA</p>
<p>( Just Kidding! )</p>
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