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		<title>By: The Law of Mobility &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Business Models: January 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Law of Mobility &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Business Models: January 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 10 Things You Need to Know About the Future of Broadband - GigaOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>10 Things You Need to Know About the Future of Broadband - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] authentication) to that delivery. This is much more complex (and profitable) than being a &#8220;dumb pipe,&#8221; but doesn’t mean being an applications or media business (something telcos are [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: &#187; Carriers as Mobile Content Creators &#187; Next Great Thing</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Carriers as Mobile Content Creators &#187; Next Great Thing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Sunday writer Chetan Sharma, in a guest column for GigaOM, posted a very thoughtful analysis on the current landscape of mobile content. The article takes a look at carrier aspirations to [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: All about Mobile Life - Addendum: Media vs Operators</title>
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		<dc:creator>All about Mobile Life - Addendum: Media vs Operators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 00:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] vs Operators Category: Mobile Market &#xA0;&#xA0; By editor at 01:17As an addendum to this post:  The Operators vs. the Media Brands by Chetan Sharma [...] If we look at the strategic canvas of the mobile data industry, it&#x2019;s [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Tom Poe</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/13/the-operators-vs-the-media-brands/#comment-849931</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Poe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The airwaves belong to the People.  The media and providers are attempting to control the distribution of our airwaves.  The issue is not which will win, but rather how we use the airwaves we own.  Wireless mesh networks demonstrate that an infrastructure for providing access to the airwaves we own costs less than $50 per house for a Meraki unit, and less than $10 per house per month to obtain and enjoy broadband speeds up to 54Mbps, today.  In the future, that speed will increase, and costs will be lower.  So, why not acknowledge that the issue isn't about entry cost, and discuss how best to shift to an infrastructure that benefits the People?  Media and providers can argue amongst themselves, while we receive the mandate of a government that is supposed to be on our side, not theirs.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The airwaves belong to the People.  The media and providers are attempting to control the distribution of our airwaves.  The issue is not which will win, but rather how we use the airwaves we own.  Wireless mesh networks demonstrate that an infrastructure for providing access to the airwaves we own costs less than $50 per house for a Meraki unit, and less than $10 per house per month to obtain and enjoy broadband speeds up to 54Mbps, today.  In the future, that speed will increase, and costs will be lower.  So, why not acknowledge that the issue isn&#8217;t about entry cost, and discuss how best to shift to an infrastructure that benefits the People?  Media and providers can argue amongst themselves, while we receive the mandate of a government that is supposed to be on our side, not theirs.</p>
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		<title>By: Always On Real-Time Access &#187; The Operators vs. the Media Brands</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] I wrote a guest column for GigaOM - The Operators vs. the Media Brands. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: tech-talk.biz &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Operators vs. Media companies</title>
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		<dc:creator>tech-talk.biz &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Operators vs. Media companies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] GigaOM&#8217;s guess column, Mr Chetan Sharma writes a interesting article on the battle between operators and media companies [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Buzz around me-10 &#124; Silence</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Broadband” (IEEE Press). He is an adviser to several operators and media brands around the world. This post at Gigaom by Chetan Sharma about the competition between mobile operators and media brands is a [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Jose Miguel Cansado</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/13/the-operators-vs-the-media-brands/#comment-849793</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose Miguel Cansado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good article, Mr Chetan Sharma. I have also wasted ink on the topic:
http://tech-talk.biz/2007/12/15/iphone-friend-or-foe-can-mobile-operators-avoid-turning-into-pipes/
http://tech-talk.biz/2008/01/02/will-2008-be-the-year-of-mobile-advertisement/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apart from the 3 "special powers" mentioned by Shai Berger, I would add QoS. With IMS deployed, only the mobile operators can control QoS. A guaranteed QoS enables carrier-grade VoIP and other real-time conversational services, like high definition video calls and video sharing, that Internet players can not deliver with best-effort Internet QoS.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Once the operator controls the real-time services, then it is in a strong position to bundle presence, location, user profile and IM with conversational services. Without this bundling, Google, Microsoft and Yahoo are even in better position than operators to provide applications based on presence, location or user profile (including advertisement).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;On the content delivery side, similarly the battle is not lost for operators if they show the determination and courage to play their cards. See KDDI example of a music service that competes head to head with iTunes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://tech-talk.biz/2008/01/12/kddi-lismo-best-mobile-music-service-in-the-world/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, Mr Chetan Sharma. I have also wasted ink on the topic:<br />
<a href="http://tech-talk.biz/2007/12/15/iphone-friend-or-foe-can-mobile-operators-avoid-turning-into-pipes/" rel="nofollow">http://tech-talk.biz/2007/12/15/iphone-friend-or-foe-can-mobile-operators-avoid-turning-into-pipes/</a><br />
<a href="http://tech-talk.biz/2008/01/02/will-2008-be-the-year-of-mobile-advertisement/" rel="nofollow">http://tech-talk.biz/2008/01/02/will-2008-be-the-year-of-mobile-advertisement/</a></p>
<p>Apart from the 3 &#8220;special powers&#8221; mentioned by Shai Berger, I would add QoS. With IMS deployed, only the mobile operators can control QoS. A guaranteed QoS enables carrier-grade VoIP and other real-time conversational services, like high definition video calls and video sharing, that Internet players can not deliver with best-effort Internet QoS.</p>
<p>Once the operator controls the real-time services, then it is in a strong position to bundle presence, location, user profile and IM with conversational services. Without this bundling, Google, Microsoft and Yahoo are even in better position than operators to provide applications based on presence, location or user profile (including advertisement).</p>
<p>On the content delivery side, similarly the battle is not lost for operators if they show the determination and courage to play their cards. See KDDI example of a music service that competes head to head with iTunes.</p>
<p><a href="http://tech-talk.biz/2008/01/12/kddi-lismo-best-mobile-music-service-in-the-world/" rel="nofollow">http://tech-talk.biz/2008/01/12/kddi-lismo-best-mobile-music-service-in-the-world/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Qurat</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/13/the-operators-vs-the-media-brands/#comment-849547</link>
		<dc:creator>Qurat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don't think that sustainability and faster pace can go together. Anyways, a thought provoking write up!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that sustainability and faster pace can go together. Anyways, a thought provoking write up!</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/13/the-operators-vs-the-media-brands/#comment-849459</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mobile operators will face financial challenges as they plan to deploy new technologies in a saturated market. Saturation in mobile penetration will result in increased competition for the existing subscriber base and continued focus on existing value drivers...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Typical Western European markets are saturating at the 80% penetration level. However, there will be increased operator focus to migrate this subscriber base from the current 2G service offering to GPRS and 3G services. To migrate customers from 2G to 2.5G services, operators will need to migrate their own subscribers and churn competitor subscribers, and attract them to upgrade their handsets to take advantage of new services. As a result, key operating expense drivers like subscriber acquisition cost (SAC), subscriber retention cost (SRC) and customer churn will continue to be an area of focus for operators. Increase in ARPU will continue to be the main driver for revenue.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;... and financial markets are expected to challenge operators' future investment plans
Exhibit 1
Subscriber penetration in the UK&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Source: Analysys&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A typical operator (in one of the five largest European markets) is expected to invest nearly EUR1 billion in the next four years in expanding GPRS capacity, as well as rolling out initial 3G networks in major cities. The basic operator business model in Europe is driven by voice and SMS revenues. Packet-based GPRS networks for data are still relatively unproven as business successes. As GPRS data networks will have a business model similar to future 3G networks, it is critical that operators prove the success of packet-based systems with GPRS. The success of GPRS will be increasingly measured, not only in terms of subscriber take-up and revenues, but also on the efficiency of capital utilised. In addition, potential consolidation within the industry will put increasing pressure on enterprise valuations.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Financial markets are expected to increasingly evaluate companies on capital efficiency ratios
Markets have traditionally compared company valuations on subscriber and EBITDA ratios, though valuation ratios themselves tend to be volatile&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mobile operators will face financial challenges as they plan to deploy new technologies in a saturated market. Saturation in mobile penetration will result in increased competition for the existing subscriber base and continued focus on existing value drivers&#8230;</p>
<p>Typical Western European markets are saturating at the 80% penetration level. However, there will be increased operator focus to migrate this subscriber base from the current 2G service offering to GPRS and 3G services. To migrate customers from 2G to 2.5G services, operators will need to migrate their own subscribers and churn competitor subscribers, and attract them to upgrade their handsets to take advantage of new services. As a result, key operating expense drivers like subscriber acquisition cost (SAC), subscriber retention cost (SRC) and customer churn will continue to be an area of focus for operators. Increase in ARPU will continue to be the main driver for revenue.</p>
<p>&#8230; and financial markets are expected to challenge operators&#8217; future investment plans<br />
Exhibit 1<br />
Subscriber penetration in the UK</p>
<p>Source: Analysys</p>
<p>A typical operator (in one of the five largest European markets) is expected to invest nearly EUR1 billion in the next four years in expanding GPRS capacity, as well as rolling out initial 3G networks in major cities. The basic operator business model in Europe is driven by voice and SMS revenues. Packet-based GPRS networks for data are still relatively unproven as business successes. As GPRS data networks will have a business model similar to future 3G networks, it is critical that operators prove the success of packet-based systems with GPRS. The success of GPRS will be increasingly measured, not only in terms of subscriber take-up and revenues, but also on the efficiency of capital utilised. In addition, potential consolidation within the industry will put increasing pressure on enterprise valuations.</p>
<p>Financial markets are expected to increasingly evaluate companies on capital efficiency ratios<br />
Markets have traditionally compared company valuations on subscriber and EBITDA ratios, though valuation ratios themselves tend to be volatile</p>
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		<title>By: Chetan Sharma</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/13/the-operators-vs-the-media-brands/#comment-849051</link>
		<dc:creator>Chetan Sharma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 05:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi wil,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I consider Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft to be among the media companies.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>I consider Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft to be among the media companies.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: wil</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/13/the-operators-vs-the-media-brands/#comment-848897</link>
		<dc:creator>wil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;maybe you are lumping in "application" player with media companies. . . but I believe independent application players are about to take a big chunk of the value chain (but still tiertiary in influence to media comapnies and operators for the foreseeable future).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Developing applications is not the expertise of media companies nor telecom operators . . .&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe you are lumping in &#8220;application&#8221; player with media companies. . . but I believe independent application players are about to take a big chunk of the value chain (but still tiertiary in influence to media comapnies and operators for the foreseeable future).</p>
<p>Developing applications is not the expertise of media companies nor telecom operators . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Chetan Sharma</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2008/01/13/the-operators-vs-the-media-brands/#comment-848670</link>
		<dc:creator>Chetan Sharma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 22:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Scott, Shai,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your comments. While there are other ways to enable/leverage network features, operators are still better positioned (currently) for the mass-market (as it relates to mobile). Whether they (or are able to) leverage that position or not is the point of my discussion.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks
Chetan&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, Shai,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments. While there are other ways to enable/leverage network features, operators are still better positioned (currently) for the mass-market (as it relates to mobile). Whether they (or are able to) leverage that position or not is the point of my discussion.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
Chetan</p>
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		<title>By: Shai Berger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shai Berger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I'm guilty of "wasting ink", as you say, on the dumb-vs-smart pipe discussion. Admittedly, that's a simplistic analogy for a very nuanced issue. My two cents here: http://www.shaiberger.com/?p=35&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I agree with Aswath that location, presence and user profile info can be gotten without carrier involvement. For location, see for example what Navizon is doing. For presence and profile, see Jaiku (now part of Google).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think there are 3 "special powers" that carriers bring to the table: 1) Billing relationship (customer support, extending credit, bundling programs, etc); 2) Integration (shortcodes like 411, "Pound and Star" combinations); 3) Marketing (billing inserts, etc.)
I elaborated on those 3 a bit more here: http://www.shaiberger.com/?p=39&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m guilty of &#8220;wasting ink&#8221;, as you say, on the dumb-vs-smart pipe discussion. Admittedly, that&#8217;s a simplistic analogy for a very nuanced issue. My two cents here: <a href="http://www.shaiberger.com/?p=35" rel="nofollow">http://www.shaiberger.com/?p=35</a></p>
<p>I agree with Aswath that location, presence and user profile info can be gotten without carrier involvement. For location, see for example what Navizon is doing. For presence and profile, see Jaiku (now part of Google).</p>
<p>I think there are 3 &#8220;special powers&#8221; that carriers bring to the table: 1) Billing relationship (customer support, extending credit, bundling programs, etc); 2) Integration (shortcodes like 411, &#8220;Pound and Star&#8221; combinations); 3) Marketing (billing inserts, etc.)<br />
I elaborated on those 3 a bit more here: <a href="http://www.shaiberger.com/?p=39" rel="nofollow">http://www.shaiberger.com/?p=39</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Rafer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Rafer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How are "location, presence, user profiles and platforms for applications; as well as device and network APIs" the sole province of the carriers? None of them are tied irrevocable to Layer 3 or lower. The carriers can start obfuscating data, but otherwise this works rather well: http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/annc/20071128_maps_mobile_my_location.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are &#8220;location, presence, user profiles and platforms for applications; as well as device and network APIs&#8221; the sole province of the carriers? None of them are tied irrevocable to Layer 3 or lower. The carriers can start obfuscating data, but otherwise this works rather well: <a href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/annc/20071128_maps_mobile_my_location.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/annc/20071128_maps_mobile_my_location.html</a></p>
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