Comments on: EchoStar Now DISH Network — Spins Off SlingBox, Set-Top Biz http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/ The Business of Technology Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:06:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Can it be hacked- Dish Network Hack http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-873032 Can it be hacked- Dish Network Hack Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:32:48 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-873032 <p>Nkeno- I would think thats total sales internet and other. Would be interesting to find out though. Does anyone know, maybe another day of fun with numbers.</p> Nkeno- I would think thats total sales internet and other. Would be interesting to find out though. Does anyone know, maybe another day of fun with numbers.

]]> By: Nkeno http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-872569 Nkeno Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:08:10 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-872569 <p>Billion dollars in sales for Dish Network ? Wow !! Is that from people signing up through the websites, or is that including sales from retailers as well ?</p> Billion dollars in sales for Dish Network ? Wow !! Is that from people signing up through the websites, or is that including sales from retailers as well ?

]]> By: Do We Really Need More Mobile TV? - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-868160 Do We Really Need More Mobile TV? - GigaOM Sun, 30 Mar 2008 08:43:42 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-868160 <p>[...] licenses to the E block of spectrum, which is good for one-way service. It’s something Om had prophesied, but does it really make [...]</p> [...] licenses to the E block of spectrum, which is good for one-way service. It’s something Om had prophesied, but does it really make [...]

]]> By: Why the New EchoStar Should Buy TiVo « NewTeeVee http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-779662 Why the New EchoStar Should Buy TiVo « NewTeeVee Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:00:18 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-779662 <p>[...] the New EchoStar Should Buy TiVo Satellite TV company EchoStar recently decided to spin off its set-top box and other non-broadcast businesses into a separate company, EchoStar Technologies [...]</p> [...] the New EchoStar Should Buy TiVo Satellite TV company EchoStar recently decided to spin off its set-top box and other non-broadcast businesses into a separate company, EchoStar Technologies [...]

]]> By: Our Techno Lyrics » Blog Archive » EchoStar to Split in Two: Satellite TV and Sling-Top Boxes http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-767709 Our Techno Lyrics » Blog Archive » EchoStar to Split in Two: Satellite TV and Sling-Top Boxes Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:48:06 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-767709 <p>[...] expected, EchoStar has filed with the SEC to split its business in two, reports GigaOm. The two businesses will be the Dish Network satellite TV service and its set-top box business. [...]</p> [...] expected, EchoStar has filed with the SEC to split its business in two, reports GigaOm. The two businesses will be the Dish Network satellite TV service and its set-top box business. [...]

]]> By: EchoStar to Split in Two: Satellite TV and Sling-Top Boxes | Article Blog http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-764352 EchoStar to Split in Two: Satellite TV and Sling-Top Boxes | Article Blog Tue, 11 Dec 2007 04:24:20 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-764352 <p>[...] and Sling-Top Boxes As expected, EchoStar has filed with the SEC to split its business in two, reports GigaOm. The two businesses will be the Dish Network satellite TV service and its set-top box business. [...]</p> [...] and Sling-Top Boxes As expected, EchoStar has filed with the SEC to split its business in two, reports GigaOm. The two businesses will be the Dish Network satellite TV service and its set-top box business. [...]

]]> By: Newswatch 12.7.07: Apple delights Big Apple | www.theirway.net http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-754350 Newswatch 12.7.07: Apple delights Big Apple | www.theirway.net Sat, 08 Dec 2007 09:04:21 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-754350 <p>[...] EchoStar becomes Dish, spins off SlingBox [GigaOM] Why the change? EchoStar wants its name to truly reflect its true business. It is also planning to spin off some of its businesses, and that spin-off will be called EchoStar Holding Co. (EHC), a move we had mused about earlier. Drew family statement on Megan’s suicide [Fox] “Lori Drew was not aware of any mean, nasty or negative comments made by anyone against Megan until after Megan took her own life. In fact, the first negative message was sent by a teenager from another residence, and several other negative comments were made by other teenagers at different locations. The negative comments that were sent by the teenage girl at the Drew’s residence occurred when Lori was not home. [...]</p> [...] EchoStar becomes Dish, spins off SlingBox [GigaOM] Why the change? EchoStar wants its name to truly reflect its true business. It is also planning to spin off some of its businesses, and that spin-off will be called EchoStar Holding Co. (EHC), a move we had mused about earlier. Drew family statement on Megan’s suicide [Fox] “Lori Drew was not aware of any mean, nasty or negative comments made by anyone against Megan until after Megan took her own life. In fact, the first negative message was sent by a teenager from another residence, and several other negative comments were made by other teenagers at different locations. The negative comments that were sent by the teenage girl at the Drew’s residence occurred when Lori was not home. [...]

]]> By: EchoStar to Split in Two: Satellite TV and Sling-Top Boxes | view::click::getpaid http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-752789 EchoStar to Split in Two: Satellite TV and Sling-Top Boxes | view::click::getpaid Sat, 08 Dec 2007 01:53:53 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-752789 <p>[...] expected, EchoStar has filed with the SEC to split its business in two, reports GigaOm. The two businesses will be the Dish Network satellite TV service and its set-top box business. [...]</p> [...] expected, EchoStar has filed with the SEC to split its business in two, reports GigaOm. The two businesses will be the Dish Network satellite TV service and its set-top box business. [...]

]]> By: EchoStar now officially called DISH Network | Gadget Reviews and Tech Updates http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-752371 EchoStar now officially called DISH Network | Gadget Reviews and Tech Updates Fri, 07 Dec 2007 23:59:58 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-752371 <p>[...] [Via GigaOM] [...]</p> [...] [Via GigaOM] [...]

]]> By: Echostar Splits into 2 companies, lots of fodder for speculation | http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-751351 Echostar Splits into 2 companies, lots of fodder for speculation | Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:29:06 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-751351 <p>[...] December 7, 2007Echostar Splits into 2 companies, lots of fodder for speculation Echostar’s Charlie Ergen is up to something. It’s hard to know exactly what to expect, but the company is making some interesting moves, and we’ll be watching and reporting on them. EchoStar, the satellite broadcasting company, is finally changing its name to DISH Network, according to a filing with the SEC. Why the change? EchoStar wants its name to truly reflect its true business. It is also planning to spin off some of its businesses, and that spin-off will be called EchoStar Holding Co. (EHC), a move we had mused about earlier. Charlie Ergen is going to be chairman and CEO of both companies. EHC had sales of over a billion dollars and a profit of about $32 million for first six months of 2007, on a pro forma basis. (from Gigaom) [...]</p> [...] December 7, 2007Echostar Splits into 2 companies, lots of fodder for speculation Echostar’s Charlie Ergen is up to something. It’s hard to know exactly what to expect, but the company is making some interesting moves, and we’ll be watching and reporting on them. EchoStar, the satellite broadcasting company, is finally changing its name to DISH Network, according to a filing with the SEC. Why the change? EchoStar wants its name to truly reflect its true business. It is also planning to spin off some of its businesses, and that spin-off will be called EchoStar Holding Co. (EHC), a move we had mused about earlier. Charlie Ergen is going to be chairman and CEO of both companies. EHC had sales of over a billion dollars and a profit of about $32 million for first six months of 2007, on a pro forma basis. (from Gigaom) [...]

]]> By: G http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-750510 G Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:15:23 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-750510 <p>"In other words, don’t be surprised if the company starts selling boxes to cable operators and other DBS companies."</p> <p>They might very well be planning to do just that - but they have better chance selling those boxes in reatil stores (as the FCC is pushing for) than seling to Cable companies directly. That's a terrible business - just ask CSCO (scientific atlanta), MOT, Digeo (owned by Paul Allen who also owns Charter), TiVo, Samsung, and the rest of the bunch. Making money on STBs is a tough business.</p> <p>Echostar's STB sales have been primarily to their customers - selling them to other operators is a whole differnt thing. Cable companies cherry pick STB components - and have it delivered by differnt vendors - that's how they keep control over their STBs (it is "their gateway, and theirs only", into the home), an expereience all too familar to everyone from MOT to TiVo.</p> <p>Missing here in this post is the TiVo litigation with Echostar - and most likely the catalyst for spinning off the STB business - and subsequently the primary driver for the Sling acquisition.</p> <p>OM as you have suggested, there's more to this spin-off story ... I hope you are poking at the right places.</p> “In other words, don’t be surprised if the company starts selling boxes to cable operators and other DBS companies.”

They might very well be planning to do just that - but they have better chance selling those boxes in reatil stores (as the FCC is pushing for) than seling to Cable companies directly. That’s a terrible business - just ask CSCO (scientific atlanta), MOT, Digeo (owned by Paul Allen who also owns Charter), TiVo, Samsung, and the rest of the bunch. Making money on STBs is a tough business.

Echostar’s STB sales have been primarily to their customers - selling them to other operators is a whole differnt thing. Cable companies cherry pick STB components - and have it delivered by differnt vendors - that’s how they keep control over their STBs (it is “their gateway, and theirs only”, into the home), an expereience all too familar to everyone from MOT to TiVo.

Missing here in this post is the TiVo litigation with Echostar - and most likely the catalyst for spinning off the STB business - and subsequently the primary driver for the Sling acquisition.

OM as you have suggested, there’s more to this spin-off story … I hope you are poking at the right places.

]]> By: Roundup: BT Vision, BBC iPlayer, DISH Network - TVover.net http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-750152 Roundup: BT Vision, BBC iPlayer, DISH Network - TVover.net Fri, 07 Dec 2007 17:17:03 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-750152 <p>[...] namely their set-top box division that now owns Sling Media, creators of the Slingbox. Read more at GigaOm. In some older news, Brightcove will be closing doors on the ability for consumers to upload and [...]</p> [...] namely their set-top box division that now owns Sling Media, creators of the Slingbox. Read more at GigaOm. In some older news, Brightcove will be closing doors on the ability for consumers to upload and [...]

]]> By: Rajeev Hirani http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-749616 Rajeev Hirani Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:46:40 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-749616 <p>Well this is a good way for them to increase their valuations. The holding company will own two seperate entities and this unlocking should create more value.</p> Well this is a good way for them to increase their valuations. The holding company will own two seperate entities and this unlocking should create more value.

]]> By: Dave's Football Blog http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-749507 Dave's Football Blog Fri, 07 Dec 2007 13:28:56 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-749507 <p>So it will be waiting for everyone in the morning? =^)</p> <p>The "broadband-enabled Satellite TV service" sounds intriguing, but a DISH Network bid on spectrum wouldn't be the only way to get there, would it? After all, if Google wins the auction, couldn't DISH rent the spectrum from them? And if AT&T wins the auction and then buys DISH, couldn't they do an all-in-one service as well?</p> <p>If it leads to a DVR that can download and play back H.264 podcasts, too, I'm all for it. (Or are we going to have to wait for DivX 7, since that's likely going to support H.264 playback?)</p> So it will be waiting for everyone in the morning? =^)

The “broadband-enabled Satellite TV service” sounds intriguing, but a DISH Network bid on spectrum wouldn’t be the only way to get there, would it? After all, if Google wins the auction, couldn’t DISH rent the spectrum from them? And if AT&T wins the auction and then buys DISH, couldn’t they do an all-in-one service as well?

If it leads to a DVR that can download and play back H.264 podcasts, too, I’m all for it. (Or are we going to have to wait for DivX 7, since that’s likely going to support H.264 playback?)

]]> By: TiVo Lovers Blog » Blog Archive » EchoStar Is Dead, Long Live EchoStar! http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-749006 TiVo Lovers Blog » Blog Archive » EchoStar Is Dead, Long Live EchoStar! Fri, 07 Dec 2007 09:55:21 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-749006 <p>[...] Picked up from GigaOM. [...]</p> [...] Picked up from GigaOM. [...]

]]> By: EchoStar now officially called DISH Network | Gadget & Tech News http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-749005 EchoStar now officially called DISH Network | Gadget & Tech News Fri, 07 Dec 2007 09:55:21 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/06/echostar-now-dish-network-spins-off-slingbox-set-top-biz/#comment-749005 <p>[...] GigaOM] [...]</p> [...] GigaOM] [...]

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