Comments on: Forbearance Can Impact Telecom Choices http://gigaom.com/2007/12/02/forbearance-decision-can-impact-broadband-choices/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:26:30 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Phone Forbearance Follies - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/12/02/forbearance-decision-can-impact-broadband-choices/#comment-876611 Phone Forbearance Follies - GigaOM Sat, 03 May 2008 04:20:40 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/02/forbearance-decision-can-impact-broadband-choices/#comment-876611 <p>[...] got everything they ever could have wanted out of the 1996 Act; any concessions they had to made they’ve since sneakily reneged on. XO is [...]</p> [...] got everything they ever could have wanted out of the 1996 Act; any concessions they had to made they’ve since sneakily reneged on. XO is [...]

]]> By: FCC Rejects Verizon’s Forbearance Application - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/12/02/forbearance-decision-can-impact-broadband-choices/#comment-743047 FCC Rejects Verizon’s Forbearance Application - GigaOM Wed, 05 Dec 2007 05:59:40 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/02/forbearance-decision-can-impact-broadband-choices/#comment-743047 <p>[...] by Om Malik, Tuesday, December 4, 2007 at 9:59 PM PT Comments (0) As FCC expert Blair Levin had predicted, FCC rejected Verizon’s forbearance relief application. The FCC in a note said that there [...]</p> [...] by Om Malik, Tuesday, December 4, 2007 at 9:59 PM PT Comments (0) As FCC expert Blair Levin had predicted, FCC rejected Verizon’s forbearance relief application. The FCC in a note said that there [...]

]]> By: Verizon petitioning FCC to forgo forbearance in 6 major markets | http://gigaom.com/2007/12/02/forbearance-decision-can-impact-broadband-choices/#comment-739226 Verizon petitioning FCC to forgo forbearance in 6 major markets | Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:03:47 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/02/forbearance-decision-can-impact-broadband-choices/#comment-739226 <p>[...] Darth Verizon is back at it. This time demanding that the FCC will release the big V from far competition rules that require them to sell access to competitors. Worth noting, any are competitors who have been undercutting them. Let’s see now, forbearance requires access to the last mile for competitors to …. compete! What’s wrong with that? Verizon has petitioned FCC to give it forbearance relief in six major markets from certain wholesale requirements, specifically “unbundled network element” (UNE) discounts it must still provide to competitive local exchange carriers (CLECs). What this means is that Verizon wants to stop selling high-capacity DS-1 and DS-3 connections because it feels competitors are using Verizon’s infrastructure to compete for the enterprise customers. (from Gigaom) [...]</p> [...] Darth Verizon is back at it. This time demanding that the FCC will release the big V from far competition rules that require them to sell access to competitors. Worth noting, any are competitors who have been undercutting them. Let’s see now, forbearance requires access to the last mile for competitors to …. compete! What’s wrong with that? Verizon has petitioned FCC to give it forbearance relief in six major markets from certain wholesale requirements, specifically “unbundled network element” (UNE) discounts it must still provide to competitive local exchange carriers (CLECs). What this means is that Verizon wants to stop selling high-capacity DS-1 and DS-3 connections because it feels competitors are using Verizon’s infrastructure to compete for the enterprise customers. (from Gigaom) [...]

]]> By: Verizon forbearance and the FCC — Alec Saunders .LOG http://gigaom.com/2007/12/02/forbearance-decision-can-impact-broadband-choices/#comment-739111 Verizon forbearance and the FCC — Alec Saunders .LOG Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:42:53 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/02/forbearance-decision-can-impact-broadband-choices/#comment-739111 <p>[...] the case currently before the FCC, the commission will make a final decision on December 5th in a forbearance petition by Verizon that would exempt it from UNE-P — the requirement to sell high capacity DS-1 and DS-3 [...]</p> [...] the case currently before the FCC, the commission will make a final decision on December 5th in a forbearance petition by Verizon that would exempt it from UNE-P — the requirement to sell high capacity DS-1 and DS-3 [...]

]]> By: Toledo Dave http://gigaom.com/2007/12/02/forbearance-decision-can-impact-broadband-choices/#comment-738523 Toledo Dave Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:20:33 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/12/02/forbearance-decision-can-impact-broadband-choices/#comment-738523 <p>In our market it was the cable company that killed the independent ISPs. I owned an ISP in the 90's, established a partnership with the cable company, helped them to launch cable modems into the market. Along the way I tried to convince them to allow the other ISP's onto their network to also sell broadband service to their customers. The cable company's thinking was why share when we can own it all, which they've pretty much done. I sold to them and did pretty well. When I left, they had 15,000 cable modem customers, now they have close to 100,000 plus another 50,000 using their cable modem phone service.</p> <p>Around the same time the cable company launched cable modems, they also started a CLEC. For them, thanks to the the Telecom Act of 1996, it was like stealing candy from a baby. They went in and undercut the local incumbent on T1's and voice services taking a big chunk of SBC's business . So I can understand the incumbents now wanting to stop competition that they in essence helped to build.</p> <p>It will get interesting when they really begin to roll out video services and go head to head with the cable companies. Hopefully, the consumers will be the ultimate winners with that competition.</p> In our market it was the cable company that killed the independent ISPs. I owned an ISP in the 90’s, established a partnership with the cable company, helped them to launch cable modems into the market. Along the way I tried to convince them to allow the other ISP’s onto their network to also sell broadband service to their customers. The cable company’s thinking was why share when we can own it all, which they’ve pretty much done. I sold to them and did pretty well. When I left, they had 15,000 cable modem customers, now they have close to 100,000 plus another 50,000 using their cable modem phone service.

Around the same time the cable company launched cable modems, they also started a CLEC. For them, thanks to the the Telecom Act of 1996, it was like stealing candy from a baby. They went in and undercut the local incumbent on T1’s and voice services taking a big chunk of SBC’s business . So I can understand the incumbents now wanting to stop competition that they in essence helped to build.

It will get interesting when they really begin to roll out video services and go head to head with the cable companies. Hopefully, the consumers will be the ultimate winners with that competition.

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