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	<title>Comments on: PhotoShelter Wants to Take On Getty Images</title>
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		<title>By: photoshelter</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-881496</link>
		<dc:creator>photoshelter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] give Getty Images a run for its money, launching a service that gives photographers more money, ...http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/Find the Perfect Wedding and Portrait Photographer on Pictage.comWedding Photographers - Find a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] give Getty Images a run for its money, launching a service that gives photographers more money, &#8230;http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/Find the Perfect Wedding and Portrait Photographer on Pictage.comWedding Photographers - Find a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ProPhotographer</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-869497</link>
		<dc:creator>ProPhotographer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 16:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think Photoshelter have got this all wrong. They might beat Getty Images at arm-wrestling but as a source of stock imagery.......read my thoughts:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.thephotographybiz.com/comment/its-stock-jim-but-not-as-we-know-it-aka-are-photoshelter-having-a-laugh/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PP&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Photoshelter have got this all wrong. They might beat Getty Images at arm-wrestling but as a source of stock imagery&#8230;&#8230;.read my thoughts:</p>
<p> (<a href="http://www.thephotographybiz.com/comment/its-stock-jim-but-not-as-we-know-it-aka-are-photoshelter-having-a-laugh/" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
<p>PP</p>
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		<title>By: Monday musings: social network economics, free and legal news pics, the future of marketing, etc. &#124; higher ed marketing</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-867128</link>
		<dc:creator>Monday musings: social network economics, free and legal news pics, the future of marketing, etc. &#124; higher ed marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] The new service is a sign of how tough things are in the stock photography business, where new and low cost competitors are emerging thick and fast, and challenging the old dogs like Getty [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The new service is a sign of how tough things are in the stock photography business, where new and low cost competitors are emerging thick and fast, and challenging the old dogs like Getty [...]</p>
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		<title>By: For Bloggers, Legit News Photos For Free - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-866799</link>
		<dc:creator>For Bloggers, Legit News Photos For Free - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 15:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] The new service is a sign of how tough things are in the stock photography business, where new and low cost competitors are emerging thick and fast, and challenging the old dogs like Getty [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The new service is a sign of how tough things are in the stock photography business, where new and low cost competitors are emerging thick and fast, and challenging the old dogs like Getty [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Doe</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-740390</link>
		<dc:creator>John Doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I see no disagreement from Photo Shelter peeps regarding the previous post.  Must be true.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see no disagreement from Photo Shelter peeps regarding the previous post.  Must be true.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-731571</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bill Avoidér&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;if it was such a great business then why did the company decide to move in different direction? I don't disagree that you you and others use their storage and love it, doesn't mean the company can build a big business from it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for getting the facts straight -  the information came from the company itself. I guess they know what is really going on with their business.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Avoidér</p>
<p>if it was such a great business then why did the company decide to move in different direction? I don&#8217;t disagree that you you and others use their storage and love it, doesn&#8217;t mean the company can build a big business from it.</p>
<p>As for getting the facts straight -  the information came from the company itself. I guess they know what is really going on with their business.</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-731559</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kelly,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I look forward to meeting you and sitting down with you and discussing the photo business.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Happy Holidays. See you next year!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelly,</p>
<p>I look forward to meeting you and sitting down with you and discussing the photo business.</p>
<p>Happy Holidays. See you next year!</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-731556</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 06:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jason,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While the corrections have been made to everyone's satisfaction (sorry about the spellings), I think you need to make sure that the about pages of the company are updated to reflect who are founders in a clear and explicit manner. it makes it harder to figure out things when official pages don't do such a good job of making the point.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason,</p>
<p>While the corrections have been made to everyone&#8217;s satisfaction (sorry about the spellings), I think you need to make sure that the about pages of the company are updated to reflect who are founders in a clear and explicit manner. it makes it harder to figure out things when official pages don&#8217;t do such a good job of making the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Thompson</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-730605</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelly Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dear Om:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think this is an interesting debate that deserves more expansion. Since iStock has been brought into the discussion, I thought I'd speak up.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PhotoShelter is an interesting idea and of course has appeal to some photographers, but they are a little late to the “commercializing crowdsourcing” game.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Further, to claim huge diversity or freshness is a bit of a stretch when iStock has 37,000 photographers from virtually every country in the world, submitting 50,000 plus images per week for review and approval.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You should know that iStock’s most prolific photogs have already been accepted as Getty Images artists, so we provide a true career path for those who have sold 25,000 images or more on iStock.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Second, I am curious about the legal and trademark checks done at PhotoShelter—or is this issue left solely in the hands of photographers? In three quick searches I found dozens of images that should not be sold as stock as they infringe on legal trademarks.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;iStock reviews each image submiited by hand, and our 90 worldwide inspectors are responsible for intimate knowledge of the rules of several countries. iStock has one of the most comprehensive lists of what can &#38; can't be sold as royalty-free stock: http://www.istockphoto.com/tutorial_copyright_list.php&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Om-I will be in your area mid-January—I’d like a chance to chat with you more if you are around.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cheers,
Kelly&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Om:</p>
<p>I think this is an interesting debate that deserves more expansion. Since iStock has been brought into the discussion, I thought I&#8217;d speak up.</p>
<p>PhotoShelter is an interesting idea and of course has appeal to some photographers, but they are a little late to the “commercializing crowdsourcing” game.</p>
<p>Further, to claim huge diversity or freshness is a bit of a stretch when iStock has 37,000 photographers from virtually every country in the world, submitting 50,000 plus images per week for review and approval.</p>
<p>You should know that iStock’s most prolific photogs have already been accepted as Getty Images artists, so we provide a true career path for those who have sold 25,000 images or more on iStock.</p>
<p>Second, I am curious about the legal and trademark checks done at PhotoShelter—or is this issue left solely in the hands of photographers? In three quick searches I found dozens of images that should not be sold as stock as they infringe on legal trademarks.</p>
<p>iStock reviews each image submiited by hand, and our 90 worldwide inspectors are responsible for intimate knowledge of the rules of several countries. iStock has one of the most comprehensive lists of what can &amp; can&#8217;t be sold as royalty-free stock:  (<a href="http://www.istockphoto.com/tutorial_copyright_list.php" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
<p>Om-I will be in your area mid-January—I’d like a chance to chat with you more if you are around.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Kelly</p>
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		<title>By: Allen Murabayashi</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-728265</link>
		<dc:creator>Allen Murabayashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Aidan,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You're making the assumption that all photos have the same value -- namely $1. We believe images, like most products, fall along a continuum. Highly commoditized images have a place in microstock, but better images from better photographers should be sold for market prices, which in advertising and commercial use equates to hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for playing catch-up, I don't agree either. Buyers are constantly looking for fresh imagery. The provider with the most diversity that can control quality will win.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Regards,
Allen&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aidan,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re making the assumption that all photos have the same value &#8212; namely $1. We believe images, like most products, fall along a continuum. Highly commoditized images have a place in microstock, but better images from better photographers should be sold for market prices, which in advertising and commercial use equates to hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars.</p>
<p>As for playing catch-up, I don&#8217;t agree either. Buyers are constantly looking for fresh imagery. The provider with the most diversity that can control quality will win.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Allen</p>
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		<title>By: Aidan Henry</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-728163</link>
		<dc:creator>Aidan Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I'm not convinced that this is going to work. Who would pay $80-100 for a photo when they can purchase a similar offering for a couple bucks from iStockPhoto. Obviously, the company is appealing to a higher end crowd of photographers and editors, but I foresee that the higher financial burden will play a difference in the end. Everything comes back to price in the end. It's a market. I guess I just don't see the differentiation here. As you mention, a new crop of photos will turn up, but the company is already playing catch-up to the other players out there...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I can see how the service will attract photographers (i.e. 70% royalties and higher image prices), but I don't see how it plans to attract customers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cheers,
Aidan
www.MappingTheWeb.com&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not convinced that this is going to work. Who would pay $80-100 for a photo when they can purchase a similar offering for a couple bucks from iStockPhoto. Obviously, the company is appealing to a higher end crowd of photographers and editors, but I foresee that the higher financial burden will play a difference in the end. Everything comes back to price in the end. It&#8217;s a market. I guess I just don&#8217;t see the differentiation here. As you mention, a new crop of photos will turn up, but the company is already playing catch-up to the other players out there&#8230;</p>
<p>I can see how the service will attract photographers (i.e. 70% royalties and higher image prices), but I don&#8217;t see how it plans to attract customers.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Aidan<br />
 (<a href="http://www.MappingTheWeb.com" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
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		<title>By: kangaroozach</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-727351</link>
		<dc:creator>kangaroozach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No easy way to buy from Flickr? Sounds like there's room for a new "feature"... Yahoo, are you down for a piece of that $800M?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No easy way to buy from Flickr? Sounds like there&#8217;s room for a new &#8220;feature&#8221;&#8230; Yahoo, are you down for a piece of that $800M?</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn Pritchard</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-727064</link>
		<dc:creator>Carolyn Pritchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jason, thank you for the note. We've updated the story.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;best, Carolyn&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason, thank you for the note. We&#8217;ve updated the story.</p>
<p>best, Carolyn</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Burfield</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-727036</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Burfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Small correction, my name is Jason Burfield, not Burfielf. :) And, although sometimes it seems like I did, I never worked at HotJobs. And, to be fair, the other founders here are Jeffery Arnold, Thomas Chin and Grover Sanschagrin, not just Allen and myself.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the mention.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;--  Jason&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Small correction, my name is Jason Burfield, not Burfielf. :) And, although sometimes it seems like I did, I never worked at HotJobs. And, to be fair, the other founders here are Jeffery Arnold, Thomas Chin and Grover Sanschagrin, not just Allen and myself.</p>
<p>Thanks for the mention.</p>
<p>&#8211;  Jason</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Avoidér</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-726556</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Avoidér</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;"PhotoShelter was started as a storage service for photographers. That didn´t work out....."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sorry but the PhotoShelter Archive is alive and well and continues to flourish. I use it, friends use it as do many other photographers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;PhotoShelter is committed to this product in addition to their new stock collection.   Get your facts straight!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;PhotoShelter was started as a storage service for photographers. That didn´t work out&#8230;..&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry but the PhotoShelter Archive is alive and well and continues to flourish. I use it, friends use it as do many other photographers.</p>
<p>PhotoShelter is committed to this product in addition to their new stock collection.   Get your facts straight!</p>
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		<title>By: Om Malik</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/27/photoshelter-wants-to-take-on-getty-images/#comment-725799</link>
		<dc:creator>Om Malik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Nitin,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While I agree that is always the case, in most cases the barrier is the stock/archives. Having worked closely with photo editors in my past life as a magazine writer, I think, there is a need for a service like PhotoShelter, which is why I kinda wrote about them. Whether they make it to the finish line, or get snapped up, is a whole different story.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nitin,</p>
<p>While I agree that is always the case, in most cases the barrier is the stock/archives. Having worked closely with photo editors in my past life as a magazine writer, I think, there is a need for a service like PhotoShelter, which is why I kinda wrote about them. Whether they make it to the finish line, or get snapped up, is a whole different story.</p>
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