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		<title>By: Google and Salesforce.com Join Clouds</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-947280</link>
		<dc:creator>Google and Salesforce.com Join Clouds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 20:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] features to the programs they build on App Engine. It also marks the beginning of a world where multiple clouds talk to one another, and management of information between those clouds becomes more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Computer Rental Company</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-933438</link>
		<dc:creator>Computer Rental Company</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Undeniably, these 5 computer clouds has helped us in a lot of ways. Some of us even can&#039;t start or end a day without them. These are helpful mediums in connecting different people all over the world, whether it be socially, financially or economically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undeniably, these 5 computer clouds has helped us in a lot of ways. Some of us even can&#8217;t start or end a day without them. These are helpful mediums in connecting different people all over the world, whether it be socially, financially or economically.</p>
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		<title>By: With a New Server, Cisco Pushes &#8220;Comm-puting&#8221; Strategy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-931559</link>
		<dc:creator>With a New Server, Cisco Pushes &#8220;Comm-puting&#8221; Strategy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 04:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] rapid growth of digital information has resulted in the formation of megacomputers — Google, Salesforce, Facebook, Yahoo, Amazon and Microsoft — which are essentially data [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cloud computing grows up with Amazon EC2 Reserved Instances &#171; Longworth Venture Partners Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-931118</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloud computing grows up with Amazon EC2 Reserved Instances &#171; Longworth Venture Partners Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] technological and economic grounds. The gold rush to build out cloud infrastructure may only have a few winners, but as enterprises moving large swathes of business workloads to the cloud, the Levis of cloud [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] technological and economic grounds. The gold rush to build out cloud infrastructure may only have a few winners, but as enterprises moving large swathes of business workloads to the cloud, the Levis of cloud [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mesh Collaboration &#124; The 2 Magics and the Hype Cycle</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-905532</link>
		<dc:creator>Mesh Collaboration &#124; The 2 Magics and the Hype Cycle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and users? Should business be thinking about 27 technologies that will impact the world, or 5 computer clouds, or both in equal [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Five Cloud Computers and Information Sharing</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-890871</link>
		<dc:creator>Five Cloud Computers and Information Sharing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lawley. Lots of interesting ideas, but one that got thrown out was the recent idea that maybe the world does only need five (cloud) computers. If something like this really does happen, then perhaps we&#8217;ll need to think even more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lawley. Lots of interesting ideas, but one that got thrown out was the recent idea that maybe the world does only need five (cloud) computers. If something like this really does happen, then perhaps we&#8217;ll need to think even more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Xor News &#187; The Hype of Cloud Computing</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-876200</link>
		<dc:creator>Xor News &#187; The Hype of Cloud Computing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Five computer clouds are all we need - http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: In the Mobile Platform War, Nokia Snags TrollTech - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-858609</link>
		<dc:creator>In the Mobile Platform War, Nokia Snags TrollTech - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Monday, January 28, 2008 at 12:38 PM PT Comments (0)   The problem with the nebulous nature of computing in the cloud is that the real money is made by controlling a platform. In the vapor of bytes that make up the [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Monday, January 28, 2008 at 12:38 PM PT Comments (0)   The problem with the nebulous nature of computing in the cloud is that the real money is made by controlling a platform. In the vapor of bytes that make up the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; IT Management for The Big Switch - Mid-afternoon Speculation and Blue-skying</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-837788</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; IT Management for The Big Switch - Mid-afternoon Speculation and Blue-skying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] things pan out in a Big Switch sort of way, there&#8217;s less primary customers (only a handful - five? - of cloud providers vs. thousands of enterprise data-centers), and thus requiring teams of people [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: 2008 predictions from a VC: Android will succeed…VentureBeat &#124; Techitorial Gadget Reviews and Tech Updates</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-776313</link>
		<dc:creator>2008 predictions from a VC: Android will succeed…VentureBeat &#124; Techitorial Gadget Reviews and Tech Updates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Portfolio. Five computing clouds are poised to deliver what most of us need. I wrote about that for GigaOm last month. Google and Amazon give us consumer apps and infrastructure, Salesforce.com and VMWare [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Portfolio. Five computing clouds are poised to deliver what most of us need. I wrote about that for GigaOm last month. Google and Amazon give us consumer apps and infrastructure, Salesforce.com and VMWare [...]</p>
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		<title>By: VentureBeat &#187; 2008 predictions from a VC: Android will succeed&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-775876</link>
		<dc:creator>VentureBeat &#187; 2008 predictions from a VC: Android will succeed&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Portfolio. Five computing clouds are poised to deliver what most of us need. I wrote about this for GigaOm last month. Google and Amazon give us consumer apps and infrastructure, Salesforce.com and VMWare [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Portfolio. Five computing clouds are poised to deliver what most of us need. I wrote about this for GigaOm last month. Google and Amazon give us consumer apps and infrastructure, Salesforce.com and VMWare [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Syven</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-727957</link>
		<dc:creator>Syven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Andrew are you referring to spatial data such as that being used by companies like Weogeo, if so Weogeo are already running off the Amazon Web Services platform.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The key for me why this discussion opens on a attribution of the &quot;5 Computer&quot; quote is simply has a nice familiarity to it which can serve as a great prelude to bringing the topic of cloud computing to a broader audience. There have been plenty of instances in history where a storyline has been used to serve another end and I guess emails are best directed to Robert Wuhl when they do, at least he knows how to laugh about them.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am more interested in the mindset required for appreciating more emergent approaches to organizing ones information rather than which four, five or six computer &quot;clouds&quot; dominate - I&#039;ll let the experts and VC&#039;s worry about that, what matters to me is discovering this stuff and when and how I will be utilizing it.  I don&#039;t want some university awarding me a PhD for technology knowledge at the end my discovery process, I simply want utilize cloud computing advantages and in the process make sure that I didn&#039;t simply have my head in the clouds.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;M.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew are you referring to spatial data such as that being used by companies like Weogeo, if so Weogeo are already running off the Amazon Web Services platform.</p>
<p>The key for me why this discussion opens on a attribution of the &#8220;5 Computer&#8221; quote is simply has a nice familiarity to it which can serve as a great prelude to bringing the topic of cloud computing to a broader audience. There have been plenty of instances in history where a storyline has been used to serve another end and I guess emails are best directed to Robert Wuhl when they do, at least he knows how to laugh about them.</p>
<p>I am more interested in the mindset required for appreciating more emergent approaches to organizing ones information rather than which four, five or six computer &#8220;clouds&#8221; dominate &#8211; I&#8217;ll let the experts and VC&#8217;s worry about that, what matters to me is discovering this stuff and when and how I will be utilizing it.  I don&#8217;t want some university awarding me a PhD for technology knowledge at the end my discovery process, I simply want utilize cloud computing advantages and in the process make sure that I didn&#8217;t simply have my head in the clouds.</p>
<p>M.</p>
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		<title>By: More Online Collaboration Tools &#171; consultaglobal</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-723613</link>
		<dc:creator>More Online Collaboration Tools &#171; consultaglobal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Baris Karadogan&#8217;s column on [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Baris Karadogan</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-722163</link>
		<dc:creator>Baris Karadogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for reading my article and the comments.  I&#039;d like to respond to Andrew who left a very thoughtful comment that deserves an equal response.  Sorry, it&#039;s taken me a while to get back.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Andrew,
Either for the enterprise side of your life or your consumer side, my model assumes two things; that there is an application cloud, and there is an ifrastructure cloud that delivers the application.  So either way there is an application somebody wants to use.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The spactial data platform you have in mind, sooner or later has to deliver an application.  Nobody would want a platform for its own sake.  So I would focus more on what the key applications are based on the spacial data.  If there are enough of them, and if they, as you say, are a superset of text, than that application would one day be positioned to knock out the consumer app cloud.  Nothing happens until that does.  Once that does, then, and only then, does the infrastructure to deliver it matter.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So long story short, I agree with your second statement.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You are welcome to email me at my work email, and we can talk more about these topics.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reading my article and the comments.  I&#8217;d like to respond to Andrew who left a very thoughtful comment that deserves an equal response.  Sorry, it&#8217;s taken me a while to get back.</p>
<p>Andrew,<br />
Either for the enterprise side of your life or your consumer side, my model assumes two things; that there is an application cloud, and there is an ifrastructure cloud that delivers the application.  So either way there is an application somebody wants to use.</p>
<p>The spactial data platform you have in mind, sooner or later has to deliver an application.  Nobody would want a platform for its own sake.  So I would focus more on what the key applications are based on the spacial data.  If there are enough of them, and if they, as you say, are a superset of text, than that application would one day be positioned to knock out the consumer app cloud.  Nothing happens until that does.  Once that does, then, and only then, does the infrastructure to deliver it matter.</p>
<p>So long story short, I agree with your second statement.</p>
<p>You are welcome to email me at my work email, and we can talk more about these topics.</p>
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		<title>By: One Cloud, Two Clouds, Four Clouds, More? &#171; SmoothSpan Blog</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/22/five-computer-clouds-are-all-we-need/#comment-721523</link>
		<dc:creator>One Cloud, Two Clouds, Four Clouds, More? &#171; SmoothSpan Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] by smoothspan on November 26, 2007  GigaOm writes recently that the world may only need 5 clouds, echoing a misquote attributed to Thomas J. Watson at IBM.  [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by smoothspan on November 26, 2007  GigaOm writes recently that the world may only need 5 clouds, echoing a misquote attributed to Thomas J. Watson at IBM.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Weird Wonderful Web Links for a Grey Cuy Sunday &#124; False Positives</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weird Wonderful Web Links for a Grey Cuy Sunday &#124; False Positives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Five Computer Clouds Are All We Need  - Could five computer &#8220;clouds&#8221; really allow us to do everything we want? If the answer is yes, they can already be found with Google; Amazon; Salesforce.com; either Sun Microsystems or VMWare; and Akamai. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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