Comments on: Digital Music Startups: Asking Permission vs. Begging Forgiveness http://gigaom.com/2007/11/19/asking-permission-vs-begging-forgiveness/ The Business of Technology Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:13:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: GIGAOM | How Can the Music Labels Save Themselves? - MEDIA & ENTERTAINMENT NEWS http://gigaom.com/2007/11/19/asking-permission-vs-begging-forgiveness/#comment-863138 GIGAOM | How Can the Music Labels Save Themselves? - MEDIA & ENTERTAINMENT NEWS Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:23:21 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/11/19/asking-permission-vs-begging-forgiveness/#comment-863138 <p>[...] I’m not sure that this will fully replace the foregone revenues from a decline in physical CD sales, but it does make a lot of sense. I’ve been privately telling my friends at the labels that their licensing pricing strategy has been flawed, notably that it’s skewed towards short-term financial rewards. I’ve also been telling them that they’ve priced out a large part of the market, which is one reason that so far it’s made more business sense for even well-meaning startups to beg forgiveness instead of asking permission. [...]</p> [...] I’m not sure that this will fully replace the foregone revenues from a decline in physical CD sales, but it does make a lot of sense. I’ve been privately telling my friends at the labels that their licensing pricing strategy has been flawed, notably that it’s skewed towards short-term financial rewards. I’ve also been telling them that they’ve priced out a large part of the market, which is one reason that so far it’s made more business sense for even well-meaning startups to beg forgiveness instead of asking permission. [...]

]]> By: How Can the Music Labels Save Themselves? - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/11/19/asking-permission-vs-begging-forgiveness/#comment-862986 How Can the Music Labels Save Themselves? - GigaOM Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:03:36 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/11/19/asking-permission-vs-begging-forgiveness/#comment-862986 <p>[...] I’m not sure that this will fully replace the foregone revenues from a decline in physical CD sales, but it does make a lot of sense. I’ve been privately telling my friends at the labels that their licensing pricing strategy has been flawed, notably that it’s skewed towards short-term financial rewards. I’ve also been telling them that they’ve priced out a large part of the market, which is one reason that so far it’s made more business sense for even well-meaning startups to beg forgiveness instead of asking permission. [...]</p> [...] I’m not sure that this will fully replace the foregone revenues from a decline in physical CD sales, but it does make a lot of sense. I’ve been privately telling my friends at the labels that their licensing pricing strategy has been flawed, notably that it’s skewed towards short-term financial rewards. I’ve also been telling them that they’ve priced out a large part of the market, which is one reason that so far it’s made more business sense for even well-meaning startups to beg forgiveness instead of asking permission. [...]

]]> By: alex4comment http://gigaom.com/2007/11/19/asking-permission-vs-begging-forgiveness/#comment-703961 alex4comment Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:37:20 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/11/19/asking-permission-vs-begging-forgiveness/#comment-703961 <p>It's a great idea really. While you are getting traction as a startup under the radar, and building up a fan base, the music industry can be seen as a bad guy, and you get free publicity in one of those David -vs- Goliath news stories.</p> It’s a great idea really. While you are getting traction as a startup under the radar, and building up a fan base, the music industry can be seen as a bad guy, and you get free publicity in one of those David -vs- Goliath news stories.

]]> By: jeremyliew http://gigaom.com/2007/11/19/asking-permission-vs-begging-forgiveness/#comment-703733 jeremyliew Tue, 20 Nov 2007 15:58:24 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/11/19/asking-permission-vs-begging-forgiveness/#comment-703733 <p>I recently blogged about how big media companies use IP litigation as a negotiation tactic with internet startups - quite relevant to this topic. More at http://lsvp.wordpress.com/2007/11/07/litigation-as-a-negotation-strategy/</p> I recently blogged about how big media companies use IP litigation as a negotiation tactic with internet startups - quite relevant to this topic. More at (link)

]]> By: Andrew A. Peterson http://gigaom.com/2007/11/19/asking-permission-vs-begging-forgiveness/#comment-702535 Andrew A. Peterson Tue, 20 Nov 2007 09:46:27 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/11/19/asking-permission-vs-begging-forgiveness/#comment-702535 <p>I think that disruptive technologies are necessary right now. The product they can deliver is so superior to what is available legally (see oink's pink palace). When all the video-sharing sites were sprouting like crazy back in 2005 and 2006, it was YouTube that was so obviously set up to "obliviously" allow illegal uploads, while the other sites seemed much more guarded in their EULAs against copyright violations. And it's those very violations that made YouTube stick.</p> <p>There are so many kinks to work out in the area of digital media and intellectual property... If you listen to the teachings of Lawrence Lessig like I do, you'll agree that some major changes in perception about the ownership of ideas are in order. If you disagree with that side of the debate, you'll at least agree that digital makes it suddenly very hard if not impossible to satisfy the consumer using the traditional models.</p> <p>If nothing else, it makes this an interesting time to be alive.</p> I think that disruptive technologies are necessary right now. The product they can deliver is so superior to what is available legally (see oink’s pink palace).
When all the video-sharing sites were sprouting like crazy back in 2005 and 2006, it was YouTube that was so obviously set up to “obliviously” allow illegal uploads, while the other sites seemed much more guarded in their EULAs against copyright violations. And it’s those very violations that made YouTube stick.

There are so many kinks to work out in the area of digital media and intellectual property… If you listen to the teachings of Lawrence Lessig like I do, you’ll agree that some major changes in perception about the ownership of ideas are in order. If you disagree with that side of the debate, you’ll at least agree that digital makes it suddenly very hard if not impossible to satisfy the consumer using the traditional models.

If nothing else, it makes this an interesting time to be alive.

]]> By: Today's Cool News http://gigaom.com/2007/11/19/asking-permission-vs-begging-forgiveness/#comment-702089 Today's Cool News Tue, 20 Nov 2007 06:55:42 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/11/19/asking-permission-vs-begging-forgiveness/#comment-702089 <p><strong>Digital Music: Begging Forgiveness</strong></p> <p>Back in those halcyon days before Lars Ulrich became the Spokesmodel for Corporate Greed, I really believed Napster offered the opportunity to blow up the label system which has always been bad for artists and create a new model in</p> Digital Music: Begging Forgiveness

Back in those halcyon days before Lars Ulrich became the Spokesmodel for Corporate Greed, I really believed Napster offered the opportunity to blow up the label system which has always been bad for artists and create a new model in

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