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		<title>By: Verizon Announces Intention To Open Its Network, Platform</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-725297</link>
		<dc:creator>Verizon Announces Intention To Open Its Network, Platform</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] is Verizon&#8217;s motive in all of this? Why the sudden change of heart? It could be their fear a Google-led wireless revolution or it could be a realization that networks need to be open and customer&#8217;s need [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is Verizon&#8217;s motive in all of this? Why the sudden change of heart? It could be their fear a Google-led wireless revolution or it could be a realization that networks need to be open and customer&#8217;s need [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Verizon Wireless To Open Its Network, Platform - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-723774</link>
		<dc:creator>Verizon Wireless To Open Its Network, Platform - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 14:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] by Om Malik  Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 6:38 AM PT Comments (0)   Whether it is the threat of a Google-led wireless revolution that could cause an upheaval in its empire, or it is just a realization that networks need to be [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by Om Malik  Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 6:38 AM PT Comments (0)   Whether it is the threat of a Google-led wireless revolution that could cause an upheaval in its empire, or it is just a realization that networks need to be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Enlaces interesantes de la semana - Online</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-707471</link>
		<dc:creator>Enlaces interesantes de la semana - Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] como operador?. Las ambiciones de Google (Mobile) en dos geniales posts de Om Malik: Google&#8217;s Grand Mobile Ambitions y Google&#8217;s Wireless [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] como operador?. Las ambiciones de Google (Mobile) en dos geniales posts de Om Malik: Google&#8217;s Grand Mobile Ambitions y Google&#8217;s Wireless [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Take Two: Google&#8217;s Wireless Ambitions &#171; GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-697928</link>
		<dc:creator>Take Two: Google&#8217;s Wireless Ambitions &#171; GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 10:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Om Malik  Monday, November 19, 2007 at 2:15 AM PT &#124; No comments    Google&#8217;s mobile ambitions have by now been widely articulated in the media, and after my initial post, I spent some time on the phone with various people discussing whether [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Om Malik  Monday, November 19, 2007 at 2:15 AM PT | No comments    Google&#8217;s mobile ambitions have by now been widely articulated in the media, and after my initial post, I spent some time on the phone with various people discussing whether [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paul G</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-693556</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Venkatesh-&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Amen. They need to present entry into the operator market as a credible threat to make things happen, but they won't if they don't absolutely have to (would drag them down in a big way).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Google's perfect solution would be for all operators to offer open-platform devices, so they could run all their apps on them. They will try every option to get them there - partner with Clearwire/Sprint over WiMax, bid with Verizon on 700MHz, subsidize T-Mobile rollout of femtocells, etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In any case, this will be fun to watch.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Venkatesh-</p>
<p>Amen. They need to present entry into the operator market as a credible threat to make things happen, but they won&#8217;t if they don&#8217;t absolutely have to (would drag them down in a big way).</p>
<p>Google&#8217;s perfect solution would be for all operators to offer open-platform devices, so they could run all their apps on them. They will try every option to get them there - partner with Clearwire/Sprint over WiMax, bid with Verizon on 700MHz, subsidize T-Mobile rollout of femtocells, etc.</p>
<p>In any case, this will be fun to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayank Kumar</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-690418</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayank Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Latest update:
Google may launch gphone ... 
Google may buy 700 MHZ spectrum ...
Google's Opensocial may lead to something that is maybe called MakaMaka ...
Why so many google rumors? will somebody tell me?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Latest update:<br />
Google may launch gphone &#8230;<br />
Google may buy 700 MHZ spectrum &#8230;<br />
Google&#8217;s Opensocial may lead to something that is maybe called MakaMaka &#8230;<br />
Why so many google rumors? will somebody tell me?</p>
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		<title>By: Vivek</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-690364</link>
		<dc:creator>Vivek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 16:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;they will do nothing is my guess. (just a one liner, sorry).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they will do nothing is my guess. (just a one liner, sorry).</p>
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		<title>By: Ike Elliott</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-689030</link>
		<dc:creator>Ike Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think Google is serious about bidding for spectrum in this winter's auctions, especially the "C" block that requires open handsets.  Once they win the spectrum they will likely partner with an established wireless carrier to operate the network.  More on my blog at http://ikeelliott.typepad.com/telecosm/2007/11/googles-next-mo.html&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Google is serious about bidding for spectrum in this winter&#8217;s auctions, especially the &#8220;C&#8221; block that requires open handsets.  Once they win the spectrum they will likely partner with an established wireless carrier to operate the network.  More on my blog at  (<a href="http://ikeelliott.typepad.com/telecosm/2007/11/googles-next-mo.html" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kapustka</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-688672</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Kapustka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 20:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why the harsh words for the WSJ reporters? Seems to me like they are just doing what any good reporter would do, as in working the story to see what shakes loose. I for one am heartened to see the MSM get more into the weeds on telecom issues, because the more reporting and openness the better for all concerned.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As analysts like Blair Levin and crew at Stifel, Nicolaus have noted, Google gains great leverage in the upcoming auction by dropping hints but keeping its cards close to the vest. Come Dec. 3 some of the hands will have to be played, but remember this is a long process that could even change more if the Democrats win the Presidency in 2008 (and thereby control of the FCC).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the harsh words for the WSJ reporters? Seems to me like they are just doing what any good reporter would do, as in working the story to see what shakes loose. I for one am heartened to see the MSM get more into the weeds on telecom issues, because the more reporting and openness the better for all concerned.</p>
<p>As analysts like Blair Levin and crew at Stifel, Nicolaus have noted, Google gains great leverage in the upcoming auction by dropping hints but keeping its cards close to the vest. Come Dec. 3 some of the hands will have to be played, but remember this is a long process that could even change more if the Democrats win the Presidency in 2008 (and thereby control of the FCC).</p>
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		<title>By: joe shmoe</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-688314</link>
		<dc:creator>joe shmoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@P:
That's exactly my observation. Last couple of weeks has seen the &lt;em&gt;exact&lt;/em&gt; same content, hashed, rehashed and rehashed yet again to be printed. I just totally lost interest and honestly think Amol Sharma and the other authors have some vested interests in drumming up the news! Are they freakin' out of their mind?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Journalism, due to folks like these, gets a bad name.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@P:<br />
That&#8217;s exactly my observation. Last couple of weeks has seen the <em>exact</em> same content, hashed, rehashed and rehashed yet again to be printed. I just totally lost interest and honestly think Amol Sharma and the other authors have some vested interests in drumming up the news! Are they freakin&#8217; out of their mind?</p>
<p>Journalism, due to folks like these, gets a bad name.</p>
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		<title>By: Chetan Sharma</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-688287</link>
		<dc:creator>Chetan Sharma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;comparing wifi network to a cellular network is hilarious. these "people familiar with the matter" need to go to school&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>comparing wifi network to a cellular network is hilarious. these &#8220;people familiar with the matter&#8221; need to go to school</p>
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		<title>By: p</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-688261</link>
		<dc:creator>p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Om,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don't get WSJ article. What's new?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They keep printing same story every month!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Om,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get WSJ article. What&#8217;s new?</p>
<p>They keep printing same story every month!</p>
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		<title>By: Jim A</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-688140</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 15:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why would Google buy into a 2.5Ghz based WiMAX network, when they can bid and win a true Broadband Wireless Distribution network based on 700Mhz?
Sprints 2.5Ghz WiMAX play will survive on the Fixed and select Portable deployments with some semblence of LOS. Mobile service within Metro and rural markets will have issues with foliage.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;700Mhz will allow Google and Partners to gain access to the Last Mile and direct access to the end user-which has limited their plans for domination of the Broadband distribution services space.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would Google buy into a 2.5Ghz based WiMAX network, when they can bid and win a true Broadband Wireless Distribution network based on 700Mhz?<br />
Sprints 2.5Ghz WiMAX play will survive on the Fixed and select Portable deployments with some semblence of LOS. Mobile service within Metro and rural markets will have issues with foliage.</p>
<p>700Mhz will allow Google and Partners to gain access to the Last Mile and direct access to the end user-which has limited their plans for domination of the Broadband distribution services space.</p>
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		<title>By: Constance Reader</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-688008</link>
		<dc:creator>Constance Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 14:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think they will bid on the spectrum but I also think they are looking very, very closely at Sprint's WiMax work to date.  Especially now that the Clearwire deal has fallen through.  Google seems to place a very high priority on keeping every option open.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they will bid on the spectrum but I also think they are looking very, very closely at Sprint&#8217;s WiMax work to date.  Especially now that the Clearwire deal has fallen through.  Google seems to place a very high priority on keeping every option open.</p>
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		<title>By: Venkatesh Kumar</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/11/16/googles-grand-mobile-ambitions/#comment-687599</link>
		<dc:creator>Venkatesh Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think it would be stupid for Google to get into the wireless operator game and I wish this whole speculation had some more analysis and reasoning behind it. Why do I think that it does not make sense for Google:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1) Google can get what it needs without buying/building an operator - What is Google after? Channels for advertising, closer relationship with users. they can get all they want by partnering with Sprint or another operator. that is the beauty of having 4 operators. You play one off the other and get what you want (e.g. Apple and AT&#38;T). So, best option would be to partner and maybe buy a stake (like they did in AOL) if partnership without investment does not work&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1) It is very very hard - An operator business is about managing capex, acquiring customers and reducing churn. Google has ZERO experience in all this. Google's expertise is writing great software that is technologically very hard. An operator's expertise is running operations and marketing. Two VERY different skills. Eric Schmidt would be a fool to think he can get both within one culture&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;3) Return on investment is much lower compared to its existing business. operator margins are low, capex is high and there are already entrenched competitors. Google's ship needs to be tanking for them to justify a $10-$20B investment into an operator. As an investor, i see these as two separate businesses.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thoughts?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it would be stupid for Google to get into the wireless operator game and I wish this whole speculation had some more analysis and reasoning behind it. Why do I think that it does not make sense for Google:</p>
<p>1) Google can get what it needs without buying/building an operator - What is Google after? Channels for advertising, closer relationship with users. they can get all they want by partnering with Sprint or another operator. that is the beauty of having 4 operators. You play one off the other and get what you want (e.g. Apple and AT&amp;T). So, best option would be to partner and maybe buy a stake (like they did in AOL) if partnership without investment does not work</p>
<p>1) It is very very hard - An operator business is about managing capex, acquiring customers and reducing churn. Google has ZERO experience in all this. Google&#8217;s expertise is writing great software that is technologically very hard. An operator&#8217;s expertise is running operations and marketing. Two VERY different skills. Eric Schmidt would be a fool to think he can get both within one culture</p>
<p>3) Return on investment is much lower compared to its existing business. operator margins are low, capex is high and there are already entrenched competitors. Google&#8217;s ship needs to be tanking for them to justify a $10-$20B investment into an operator. As an investor, i see these as two separate businesses.</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think they will co-opt Sprint to lend credibility to Xohm &#38; placate Sprint investors, without buying them.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they will co-opt Sprint to lend credibility to Xohm &amp; placate Sprint investors, without buying them.</p>
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