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	<title>Comments on: What the H@%$!! is &#039;founder&#039;s stock&#039; and does it have special value?</title>
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		<title>By: David Cox Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Cox Jr.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If i get 2,000,000 shares of common stock or 20% non-dilutable of 10,000,000 shares.In the long run when the company IPO&#039;s will my stock be worth alot of money if the company is successful.  If we exit like sell the company will my return be great.  Please give me some examples of how this will work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If i get 2,000,000 shares of common stock or 20% non-dilutable of 10,000,000 shares.In the long run when the company IPO&#8217;s will my stock be worth alot of money if the company is successful.  If we exit like sell the company will my return be great.  Please give me some examples of how this will work.</p>
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		<title>By: bngu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bngu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 00:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks everyone, I appreciate your helpful comments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone, I appreciate your helpful comments.</p>
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		<title>By: MDH</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MDH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;how can a founder build anti-dilution protections into his or her stock, in preparation for fundraising?&quot;

Um, that&#039;s an oxymoron. You are SEEKING to get diluted, and most likely sit a &quot;class below&quot; the capital going into the company. Founders stock is... the stock the founder has/had... I agree with the others that it&#039;s typically the initial common in the company.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;how can a founder build anti-dilution protections into his or her stock, in preparation for fundraising?&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, that&#8217;s an oxymoron. You are SEEKING to get diluted, and most likely sit a &#8220;class below&#8221; the capital going into the company. Founders stock is&#8230; the stock the founder has/had&#8230; I agree with the others that it&#8217;s typically the initial common in the company.</p>
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		<title>By: park3</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Bob is right (as is Sean above).  Founder&#039;s stock is common stock.

Normally I see founders dividing up a brand-new company among them and paying a low price for it.  Later (even key) employees generally get smaller percentages and pay higher prices- hence the distinction between &quot;founder&#039;s&quot; shares and other common stock.

The best way I have discovered to protect one&#039;s stock from dilution (from investors, presumably) is to build value in the business.  The higher the pre-money valuation the less of the company investors will take.  Easier said than done, though.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Bob is right (as is Sean above).  Founder&#8217;s stock is common stock.</p>
<p>Normally I see founders dividing up a brand-new company among them and paying a low price for it.  Later (even key) employees generally get smaller percentages and pay higher prices- hence the distinction between &#8220;founder&#8217;s&#8221; shares and other common stock.</p>
<p>The best way I have discovered to protect one&#8217;s stock from dilution (from investors, presumably) is to build value in the business.  The higher the pre-money valuation the less of the company investors will take.  Easier said than done, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whenever I&#039;ve heard &quot;Founder&#039;s Stock&quot; thrown around it is actually referring to the price per share rather than any elaborate voting rights. Most founders will purchase the stock at par value instead of the valuation price that might follow financing (which is when most employees would join). Any employee would love to get the founder&#039;s price on the stock since it&#039;s usually fractions of a penny.

The other major difference is that Founder&#039;s typically own shares instead of options so they have inherent long term capital gains benefits (since they don&#039;t have to take a hit when exercising the option). It also means that you retain the voting rights associated with the shares instead of waiting until you exercise your options when they vest.

While it&#039;s not part of the stock class, founders can usually negotiate different vesting and other terms as part of their stock restriction agreement upon venture investment. For example, while most employees would see their vesting rest when the Series A round closes, a founder might retain some % of their shares. They might also have special terms in the case of termination or demotion that accelerate vesting. Unfortunately, these have less to do with the type of stock and more to do with who the person is and how strategic they are to the organization.

Hope that helps.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I&#8217;ve heard &#8220;Founder&#8217;s Stock&#8221; thrown around it is actually referring to the price per share rather than any elaborate voting rights. Most founders will purchase the stock at par value instead of the valuation price that might follow financing (which is when most employees would join). Any employee would love to get the founder&#8217;s price on the stock since it&#8217;s usually fractions of a penny.</p>
<p>The other major difference is that Founder&#8217;s typically own shares instead of options so they have inherent long term capital gains benefits (since they don&#8217;t have to take a hit when exercising the option). It also means that you retain the voting rights associated with the shares instead of waiting until you exercise your options when they vest.</p>
<p>While it&#8217;s not part of the stock class, founders can usually negotiate different vesting and other terms as part of their stock restriction agreement upon venture investment. For example, while most employees would see their vesting rest when the Series A round closes, a founder might retain some % of their shares. They might also have special terms in the case of termination or demotion that accelerate vesting. Unfortunately, these have less to do with the type of stock and more to do with who the person is and how strategic they are to the organization.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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