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	<title>Comments on: Why Shaping Traffic Isn&#8217;t Just a Comcast Issue</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sandvine: 44% of Web Traffic is P2P &#171; NewTeeVee</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/why-shaping-traffic-isnt-just-a-comcast-issue/#comment-885286</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandvine: 44% of Web Traffic is P2P &#171; NewTeeVee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] has been in the news lately for its role in the Net Neutrality debate. Sandvine devices were reportedly used in Comcast&#8217;s throttling of BitTorrent traffic, and the company recently released FairShare, a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] has been in the news lately for its role in the Net Neutrality debate. Sandvine devices were reportedly used in Comcast&#8217;s throttling of BitTorrent traffic, and the company recently released FairShare, a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: My take on the traffic shaping</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/why-shaping-traffic-isnt-just-a-comcast-issue/#comment-882740</link>
		<dc:creator>My take on the traffic shaping</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Whose Fault Is Traffic Shaping, App Blocking? - GigaOM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whose Fault Is Traffic Shaping, App Blocking? - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is everyone surprised? I&#8217;m sure not. Cox admitted shaping traffic when we asked them about it back in October 2007,  though they didn&#8217;t single out [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is everyone surprised? I&#8217;m sure not. Cox admitted shaping traffic when we asked them about it back in October 2007,  though they didn&#8217;t single out [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shocking: New Facts About P2P and Broadband Usage - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/why-shaping-traffic-isnt-just-a-comcast-issue/#comment-872504</link>
		<dc:creator>Shocking: New Facts About P2P and Broadband Usage - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] of Arbor Networks, which makes all sorts of network-management and traffic-shaping tools. Arbor is used by dozens of ISPs around the planet and, as a result, McPherson is privy to details about traffic flows and usage patterns across many [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Arbor Networks, which makes all sorts of network-management and traffic-shaping tools. Arbor is used by dozens of ISPs around the planet and, as a result, McPherson is privy to details about traffic flows and usage patterns across many [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vuze Plugin Will Show ISPs Messing With P2P - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/why-shaping-traffic-isnt-just-a-comcast-issue/#comment-872371</link>
		<dc:creator>Vuze Plugin Will Show ISPs Messing With P2P - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Malik, Monday, April 21, 2008 at 11:01 PM PT Comments (0)    Back in October 2007 we had reported that Comcast wasn&#8217;t the only broadband service provider that was messing with the P2P traffic [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Malik, Monday, April 21, 2008 at 11:01 PM PT Comments (0)    Back in October 2007 we had reported that Comcast wasn&#8217;t the only broadband service provider that was messing with the P2P traffic [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Comcast Cable CTO: Bandwidth Hogs Will Experience Slowdowns - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/why-shaping-traffic-isnt-just-a-comcast-issue/#comment-868402</link>
		<dc:creator>Comcast Cable CTO: Bandwidth Hogs Will Experience Slowdowns - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] He said Comcast is not alone in traffic management, that even in places like Japan, fiber operators that sell 100-megabits-per-second connections are managing traffic, too. “A vast majority of ISPs do perform traffic management, including NTT, and the reason we do it is because we want to have balanced traffic performance at peak times,” Werner said. (See here for &#8220;Why Shaping Traffic Isn’t Just A Comcast Issue.&#8220;) [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] He said Comcast is not alone in traffic management, that even in places like Japan, fiber operators that sell 100-megabits-per-second connections are managing traffic, too. “A vast majority of ISPs do perform traffic management, including NTT, and the reason we do it is because we want to have balanced traffic performance at peak times,” Werner said. (See here for &#8220;Why Shaping Traffic Isn’t Just A Comcast Issue.&#8220;) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Markey Opens 2nd Round of Net Neutrality Fight - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/why-shaping-traffic-isnt-just-a-comcast-issue/#comment-861329</link>
		<dc:creator>Markey Opens 2nd Round of Net Neutrality Fight - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] recent Net Neutrality-like incidents involving Verizon, AT&#38;T and most recently Comcast, it might be harder this time around for the carriers to claim supervision isn&#8217;t necessary. [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] recent Net Neutrality-like incidents involving Verizon, AT&amp;T and most recently Comcast, it might be harder this time around for the carriers to claim supervision isn&#8217;t necessary. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/why-shaping-traffic-isnt-just-a-comcast-issue/#comment-860031</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To add to that if Comcast is forced to use traffic shaping to continue giving all users quick speeds then they obviously do not have sufficient systems to keep up with what they offer.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add to that if Comcast is forced to use traffic shaping to continue giving all users quick speeds then they obviously do not have sufficient systems to keep up with what they offer.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/why-shaping-traffic-isnt-just-a-comcast-issue/#comment-860030</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Kumar I have to say your belief is amazing. If I am paying for 6Mbps DL I expect it. I also expect the UL speeds I pay for, how I choose to use the internet is my choice so long as I am not participating in illgal activities I find it unfair for Comcast to limit bandwidth as soon as people start using what they pay for.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Comcast has recently seemed to have made their traffic shaping worse by the way as they now reduce my internet to approx 1kbps DL speeds and 4-5 up. The only way I can fix this after running torrents is to go reset my modem which is a bit ridiculous. After calling Comcast they informed me that there is NO guaranteed minimum speed only a maximum so according to my contract I could get as little as 1bps up and won.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kumar I have to say your belief is amazing. If I am paying for 6Mbps DL I expect it. I also expect the UL speeds I pay for, how I choose to use the internet is my choice so long as I am not participating in illgal activities I find it unfair for Comcast to limit bandwidth as soon as people start using what they pay for.</p>
<p>Comcast has recently seemed to have made their traffic shaping worse by the way as they now reduce my internet to approx 1kbps DL speeds and 4-5 up. The only way I can fix this after running torrents is to go reset my modem which is a bit ridiculous. After calling Comcast they informed me that there is NO guaranteed minimum speed only a maximum so according to my contract I could get as little as 1bps up and won.</p>
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		<title>By: Video Killed the Broadband Buffet - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/why-shaping-traffic-isnt-just-a-comcast-issue/#comment-856905</link>
		<dc:creator>Video Killed the Broadband Buffet - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] which is reluctant to spend when it comes to expanding network capacity. Comcast has already tried controversial methods to reduce bandwidth-sucking activity on their network; other providers have undisclosed [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which is reluctant to spend when it comes to expanding network capacity. Comcast has already tried controversial methods to reduce bandwidth-sucking activity on their network; other providers have undisclosed [...]</p>
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		<title>By: eli riles</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/why-shaping-traffic-isnt-just-a-comcast-issue/#comment-793894</link>
		<dc:creator>eli riles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Do any of the major ISPs use NetEqualizer technology to control traffic, I understand many of them use SandVine, and this technology actually looks at the data.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do any of the major ISPs use NetEqualizer technology to control traffic, I understand many of them use SandVine, and this technology actually looks at the data.</p>
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		<title>By: TechWannabe</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/why-shaping-traffic-isnt-just-a-comcast-issue/#comment-760293</link>
		<dc:creator>TechWannabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is a great article in PC Magazine about ISP's and the "lies" they like to tell about internet speeds and traffic shaping.  Check it out...it's definitely entertaining!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2155140,00.asp&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;By the way, the NetEqualizer is a product that really does traffic shaping and bandwidth management without blocking P2P services, web sites or other applications that use a lot of bandwidth.  It really does just "manage" the traffic by internally slowing down traffic that is eating up all the bandwidth and letting other traffic through quickly.  It's pretty amazing.  You can actually try it out at http://www.netequalizer.com/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a great article in PC Magazine about ISP&#8217;s and the &#8220;lies&#8221; they like to tell about internet speeds and traffic shaping.  Check it out&#8230;it&#8217;s definitely entertaining!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2155140,00.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2155140,00.asp</a></p>
<p>By the way, the NetEqualizer is a product that really does traffic shaping and bandwidth management without blocking P2P services, web sites or other applications that use a lot of bandwidth.  It really does just &#8220;manage&#8221; the traffic by internally slowing down traffic that is eating up all the bandwidth and letting other traffic through quickly.  It&#8217;s pretty amazing.  You can actually try it out at <a href="http://www.netequalizer.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.netequalizer.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: QoS Prioritized</title>
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		<dc:creator>QoS Prioritized</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 12:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Om Malik [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Blocking Internet file transfers: How big is the problem? - Vindu&#8217;s View from the Valley - A Silicon Valley Perspective on Public Policy, Business and Technology</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/why-shaping-traffic-isnt-just-a-comcast-issue/#comment-635337</link>
		<dc:creator>Blocking Internet file transfers: How big is the problem? - Vindu&#8217;s View from the Valley - A Silicon Valley Perspective on Public Policy, Business and Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Om Malik at GigaOm says that a Canadian company called Sandvine provides the software that Comcast uses to interrupt [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Is Comcast endangering the internet?</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/why-shaping-traffic-isnt-just-a-comcast-issue/#comment-630567</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Comcast endangering the internet?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What Comcast has done and is doing is detrimental to the long life of the internet and should be condemned worldwide.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/why-shaping-traffic-isnt-just-a-comcast-issue/#comment-630135</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To the people who say its acceptable to slow down other people so they get the speed they "should" get.  If people are paying for a set upload and download rate, then its the fault of the provider if they oversell and can't provide the bandwidth to the customer.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Take the analogy of the roadway.  If a road is overcongested, we can't blame other drivers and say that they have no right to be driving all the time.  Traffic shouldn't be bumped or "policed" of those roads unless the roadway is marked as no trucks or a HOV lane or some such.  In this case, comcast was selling their "roadway" as it were, as clear for all traffic but selectively policing and saying, no trucks, no large vehicles, no recreational drivers etc.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the people who say its acceptable to slow down other people so they get the speed they &#8220;should&#8221; get.  If people are paying for a set upload and download rate, then its the fault of the provider if they oversell and can&#8217;t provide the bandwidth to the customer.</p>
<p>Take the analogy of the roadway.  If a road is overcongested, we can&#8217;t blame other drivers and say that they have no right to be driving all the time.  Traffic shouldn&#8217;t be bumped or &#8220;policed&#8221; of those roads unless the roadway is marked as no trucks or a HOV lane or some such.  In this case, comcast was selling their &#8220;roadway&#8221; as it were, as clear for all traffic but selectively policing and saying, no trucks, no large vehicles, no recreational drivers etc.</p>
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