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	<title>Comments on: Who Needs Facebook? MSFT Thriving on Its Own</title>
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		<title>By: Joseph Pally</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/who-needs-facebook-msft-thriving-on-its-own/#comment-634113</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Pally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;MSFT apps made our lives segmented with the 10 apps we have to deal with everyday.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Facebook apps made it scattered with a 1000 little tiny apps to deal with everyday.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yet, hope is on the way.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;MSFT investment - though it gives Facebook high valuation, is indirectly a low price. With the contractual constraints on Facebook, MSFT needs to and will make a lot more money off of this deal.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The puffed up value will hence stabilize, and MSFT will get more than its value back.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MSFT apps made our lives segmented with the 10 apps we have to deal with everyday.</p>

<p>Facebook apps made it scattered with a 1000 little tiny apps to deal with everyday.</p>

<p>Yet, hope is on the way.</p>

<p>MSFT investment &#8211; though it gives Facebook high valuation, is indirectly a low price. With the contractual constraints on Facebook, MSFT needs to and will make a lot more money off of this deal.</p>

<p>The puffed up value will hence stabilize, and MSFT will get more than its value back.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark Wells</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/who-needs-facebook-msft-thriving-on-its-own/#comment-632243</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Wells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 01:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Great investment. Microsoft should ise it&#039;s huge cash cache to just buy up other companies. They need to get into video, so Dailymotion or Cavenger would be great acquisitions, too.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great investment. Microsoft should ise it&#8217;s huge cash cache to just buy up other companies. They need to get into video, so Dailymotion or Cavenger would be great acquisitions, too.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/who-needs-facebook-msft-thriving-on-its-own/#comment-630610</link>
		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, since MSFT changed accounting on revenues from OS licenses - from over their lifetime to time of sale - yeah of course they got a huge bump in earnings.  Won&#039;t be easy to hide that next quarter/year.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh, and they hid that $1B loss on Xbox recalls back in last quarter&#039;s earnings because if they didn&#039;t Xbox division would still be losing money.  Now THAT&#039;S a slick trick.  But again, it won&#039;t be easy to hide next quarter/year.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, yeah, they need Facebook because they&#039;re hoping for revenues in the coming quarters/years to hide their sins of this quarter.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since MSFT changed accounting on revenues from OS licenses &#8211; from over their lifetime to time of sale &#8211; yeah of course they got a huge bump in earnings.  Won&#8217;t be easy to hide that next quarter/year.</p>

<p>Oh, and they hid that $1B loss on Xbox recalls back in last quarter&#8217;s earnings because if they didn&#8217;t Xbox division would still be losing money.  Now THAT&#8217;S a slick trick.  But again, it won&#8217;t be easy to hide next quarter/year.</p>

<p>So, yeah, they need Facebook because they&#8217;re hoping for revenues in the coming quarters/years to hide their sins of this quarter.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Angry Chinese Driver</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/who-needs-facebook-msft-thriving-on-its-own/#comment-630218</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry Chinese Driver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Despite all the money MS is making, Bill Gates is no longer the richest man in the world.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite all the money MS is making, Bill Gates is no longer the richest man in the world.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dwane</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/who-needs-facebook-msft-thriving-on-its-own/#comment-630117</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Microsoft is just getting started.  Service Pack 1 has not been shipped yet, and most business&#039; won&#039;t be buying until it does (early 2008).  Then sales will really take off.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft is just getting started.  Service Pack 1 has not been shipped yet, and most business&#8217; won&#8217;t be buying until it does (early 2008).  Then sales will really take off.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: MJ "revoltingpawn"</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/who-needs-facebook-msft-thriving-on-its-own/#comment-630066</link>
		<dc:creator>MJ "revoltingpawn"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree Microsoft has been doing a lot of things right on it own but hyper sure helps. Hell, We even covered the Facebook deal on our political blog...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://shadowdemocracy.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/microsoft-buys-a-stake-in-facebook-for-240-million/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Microsoft has been doing a lot of things right on it own but hyper sure helps. Hell, We even covered the Facebook deal on our political blog&#8230;</p>

<p><a href="http://shadowdemocracy.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/microsoft-buys-a-stake-in-facebook-for-240-million/" rel="nofollow">http://shadowdemocracy.wordpress.com/2007/10/25/microsoft-buys-a-stake-in-facebook-for-240-million/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rupert</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/who-needs-facebook-msft-thriving-on-its-own/#comment-629990</link>
		<dc:creator>Rupert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It is actually $3 above 2001 levels - do not forget the $3 dividend that it gave out some time back, which got reduced from the stock price instantly.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is actually $3 above 2001 levels &#8211; do not forget the $3 dividend that it gave out some time back, which got reduced from the stock price instantly.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ron Diggity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Diggity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Go Microsoft!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go Microsoft!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: testo</title>
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		<dc:creator>testo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think one of the reasons is the monopoly of Windows Vista in laptop. I mean how the f**** all those laptops SHOULD only use windows Vista. My brother&#039;s laptop is one of the examples&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the reasons is the monopoly of Windows Vista in laptop. I mean how the f**** all those laptops SHOULD only use windows Vista. My brother&#8217;s laptop is one of the examples</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kevin Kelleher</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/who-needs-facebook-msft-thriving-on-its-own/#comment-629839</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Kelleher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@john fitzgerald: microsoft&#039;s revenue grew 27% and only 25% factoring out forex. but analysts were expecting 16% growth. it&#039;s still a big surprise. om mentioned earlier the effect the weak dollar is having on tech earnings, and it&#039;s good to keep in mind. but it&#039;s also important to not overstate its impact.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@john fitzgerald: microsoft&#8217;s revenue grew 27% and only 25% factoring out forex. but analysts were expecting 16% growth. it&#8217;s still a big surprise. om mentioned earlier the effect the weak dollar is having on tech earnings, and it&#8217;s good to keep in mind. but it&#8217;s also important to not overstate its impact.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sv</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/who-needs-facebook-msft-thriving-on-its-own/#comment-629647</link>
		<dc:creator>sv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Microsoft continues to attract the best talent in the world and despite the hoopla know how to produce software pretty well.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not sure who thinks it is a stodgy company appealing to folks seeking dividends!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft continues to attract the best talent in the world and despite the hoopla know how to produce software pretty well.</p>

<p>Not sure who thinks it is a stodgy company appealing to folks seeking dividends!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dhiren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dhiren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Microsoft has been a pretty matured sensible company. I love it even more now.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft has been a pretty matured sensible company. I love it even more now.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Lipo Network</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/25/who-needs-facebook-msft-thriving-on-its-own/#comment-629578</link>
		<dc:creator>Lipo Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Most excellent news.  Once we get the on-line advertising unit making 4 billion and even new Zune&#039;s I think we have a great year ahead!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Go Microsoft :&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most excellent news.  Once we get the on-line advertising unit making 4 billion and even new Zune&#8217;s I think we have a great year ahead!</p>

<p>Go Microsoft :&gt;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Free Market Research Tool</title>
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		<dc:creator>Free Market Research Tool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No doubt - Facebook stake has put M&#039;Soft in race again especially they will be taking care of overseas advertisements of Facebook!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt &#8211; Facebook stake has put M&#8217;Soft in race again especially they will be taking care of overseas advertisements of Facebook!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: John Fitzgerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Fitzgerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why is everyone excited here?  The US$ hit an all-time low, thus taking the exchange rate for euros etc. in a positive direction for US public companies.  This is NOT a case of Microsoft performing better. Its a case of Microsoft benefiting from a currency weakness.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is everyone excited here?  The US$ hit an all-time low, thus taking the exchange rate for euros etc. in a positive direction for US public companies.  This is NOT a case of Microsoft performing better. Its a case of Microsoft benefiting from a currency weakness.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Kevin Kelleher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Kelleher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Pumping&quot; may not have been the best word to use, but investors did add $33b to the stock&#039;s value. 50 shares at $40 would be knocked back down in a second. But with MSFT this afternoon, there were tens of millions of shares traded at that value, suggesting a rather broad and - for now at least - sustained consensus for this big jump.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pumping&#8221; may not have been the best word to use, but investors did add $33b to the stock&#8217;s value. 50 shares at $40 would be knocked back down in a second. But with MSFT this afternoon, there were tens of millions of shares traded at that value, suggesting a rather broad and &#8211; for now at least &#8211; sustained consensus for this big jump.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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