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	<title>Comments on: VonageLovesYou, Even if You Don&#8217;t</title>
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	<description>The Business of Technology</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Here Comes Trouble: An Antidote to Software Patents - GigaOM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/22/vonagelovesyou/#comment-856962</link>
		<dc:creator>Here Comes Trouble: An Antidote to Software Patents - GigaOM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Berninger, Friday, January 18, 2008 at 12:00 AM PT Comments (0)   The $250 million Vonage burned through as a result of the patent lawsuit brought by Verizon et al provides yet another example of why [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Berninger, Friday, January 18, 2008 at 12:00 AM PT Comments (0)   The $250 million Vonage burned through as a result of the patent lawsuit brought by Verizon et al provides yet another example of why [...]</p>
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		<title>By: roman nakonechnyy</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/22/vonagelovesyou/#comment-834801</link>
		<dc:creator>roman nakonechnyy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gees vonage's sucks when my v-tech modem device broke nobody came to fix it or even answer hundreds of times I called vonage to help me fix the phone they charged me for 2 months but it still not fixed&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gees vonage&#8217;s sucks when my v-tech modem device broke nobody came to fix it or even answer hundreds of times I called vonage to help me fix the phone they charged me for 2 months but it still not fixed</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/22/vonagelovesyou/#comment-626376</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Seems like a router has always been tossed in though.  I got mine for free and didn't do any special deal.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like a router has always been tossed in though.  I got mine for free and didn&#8217;t do any special deal.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/22/vonagelovesyou/#comment-624733</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;...and i love vonage back, seriously, my bill is always low, like under 25ish bucks, and i used to pay over 80 for identical services and features...plus it's backup - isn't everybody all mobile now???&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and i love vonage back, seriously, my bill is always low, like under 25ish bucks, and i used to pay over 80 for identical services and features&#8230;plus it&#8217;s backup - isn&#8217;t everybody all mobile now???</p>
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		<title>By: Denis</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/22/vonagelovesyou/#comment-624560</link>
		<dc:creator>Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;6) 5% royalty to Spring going forward (new sales)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don't think that they have to pay Sprint a percentage.  I thought that they did a settlement with Sprint and that did not include a percentage...&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.redherring.com/Home/22938&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>6) 5% royalty to Spring going forward (new sales)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that they have to pay Sprint a percentage.  I thought that they did a settlement with Sprint and that did not include a percentage&#8230;</p>
<p> (<a href="http://www.redherring.com/Home/22938" rel="nofollow">link</a>) </p>
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		<title>By: Dhiren</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/22/vonagelovesyou/#comment-624545</link>
		<dc:creator>Dhiren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;with all the cash they collected in IPO, sure the'll love us&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with all the cash they collected in IPO, sure the&#8217;ll love us</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/10/22/vonagelovesyou/#comment-624075</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Holy Toledo! I have not looked at their balance sheet lately, but it has to be bleeding lots of red.
1) Promotion that is costing them money. Router costs is probably greater than $25 alone.
2) Sprint lawsuit $80M
3) Verizon lawsuit $58M
4) AT&#38;T lawsuit TBD&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;5) 5.5% royalty to Verizon going forward (new sales) 
6) 5% royalty to Spring going forward (new sales)
7) AT&#38;T royalty - TBD&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;8) Customer acquisition costs?
9) Increasing customer churn&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;.....damm, this does not look good for Vonage shareholders,imo.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy Toledo! I have not looked at their balance sheet lately, but it has to be bleeding lots of red.<br />
1) Promotion that is costing them money. Router costs is probably greater than $25 alone.<br />
2) Sprint lawsuit $80M<br />
3) Verizon lawsuit $58M<br />
4) AT&amp;T lawsuit TBD</p>
<p>5) 5.5% royalty to Verizon going forward (new sales)<br />
6) 5% royalty to Spring going forward (new sales)<br />
7) AT&amp;T royalty - TBD</p>
<p>8) Customer acquisition costs?<br />
9) Increasing customer churn</p>
<p>&#8230;..damm, this does not look good for Vonage shareholders,imo.</p>
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