Comments on: Making FTTH Cheaper http://gigaom.com/2007/10/01/making-ftth-cheaper/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 19:44:08 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: The Gradual, Meandering Progress Toward Fiber - Caller IP http://gigaom.com/2007/10/01/making-ftth-cheaper/#comment-662619 The Gradual, Meandering Progress Toward Fiber - Caller IP Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:56:20 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/10/01/making-ftth-cheaper/#comment-662619 <p>[...] This post by Om Malik at GigaOm was written in anticipation of a FTTH conference in mid autumn. Products to be introduced at the conference — from Corning and Neophotonics — aim to reduce the cost of FTTH. The comments go off in a decidedly different direction: The respondents get into a debate over the need for the great capacity FTTH will provide. The feeling is that the capacity is not needed now, but valuable applications demanding such bandwidth won’t be developed if such expansive amounts of capacity aren’t made available. [...]</p> [...] This post by Om Malik at GigaOm was written in anticipation of a FTTH conference in mid autumn. Products to be introduced at the conference — from Corning and Neophotonics — aim to reduce the cost of FTTH. The comments go off in a decidedly different direction: The respondents get into a debate over the need for the great capacity FTTH will provide. The feeling is that the capacity is not needed now, but valuable applications demanding such bandwidth won’t be developed if such expansive amounts of capacity aren’t made available. [...]

]]> By: mdutech http://gigaom.com/2007/10/01/making-ftth-cheaper/#comment-592943 mdutech Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:27:52 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/10/01/making-ftth-cheaper/#comment-592943 <p>@Stuart:</p> <p>I completely agree about the chicken and egg scenario, and I look forward to a day when those "future needs" become current needs. Here in the US, it clearly doesn't make sense to develop applications for 50-100 Mbps when most of the country is chugging along at 1-10 Mbps or worse.</p> <p>My best guess is that we're still years, if not decades, away from that day -- simply because we're stuck with a 100 years' worth of the old medium in most cases. Very few property owners want to pay to upgrade, and at least for now, only Verizon and a handful of second-tier FTTH providers are investing heavily in that "forward thinking."</p> <p>Mike</p> @Stuart:

I completely agree about the chicken and egg scenario, and I look forward to a day when those “future needs” become current needs. Here in the US, it clearly doesn’t make sense to develop applications for 50-100 Mbps when most of the country is chugging along at 1-10 Mbps or worse.

My best guess is that we’re still years, if not decades, away from that day — simply because we’re stuck with a 100 years’ worth of the old medium in most cases. Very few property owners want to pay to upgrade, and at least for now, only Verizon and a handful of second-tier FTTH providers are investing heavily in that “forward thinking.”

Mike

]]> By: OpticalAlert.com http://gigaom.com/2007/10/01/making-ftth-cheaper/#comment-591848 OpticalAlert.com Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:21:15 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/10/01/making-ftth-cheaper/#comment-591848 <p>Dan,</p> <p>We do intend to look at the “power over fibre” market when we secure our next round of funding. Efficiencies are around 50% at the moment and the only supplier is JDSU, a lot depends on how much power is needed but I guess it is theoretically possible to power an ONT with the same fibre as the data.</p> <p>Regards</p> <p>Kevin</p> Dan,

We do intend to look at the “power over fibre” market when we secure our next round of funding. Efficiencies are around 50% at the moment and the only supplier is JDSU, a lot depends on how much power is needed but I guess it is theoretically possible to power an ONT with the same fibre as the data.

Regards

Kevin

]]> By: Stuart http://gigaom.com/2007/10/01/making-ftth-cheaper/#comment-591353 Stuart Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:18:33 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/10/01/making-ftth-cheaper/#comment-591353 <p>Mike: <i>Why does the average person need it?</i></p> <p>Its the Killer app question more in the form of the chicken and the egg. Do you have the bandwidth first or the app first? Thats a tricky question, and I have no historic references to cite however when you think about it developers might take the bandwidth before the app route. It really doesn't seem to make sense to develop and great application that will not be usable due to the current state of connections in the country, maybe develop a service that will be <i>enhanced</i> by better speed but that probably wont bring the need be higher speeds either.</p> <p>People need these speeds because of foward thinking. Most times we aren't talking about a person on a connection but a family or small group of people. IPTV is something that seem promising and doesn't need to be lock to you service provider and there is the all too unpredictable future. This will be really the first time we've upgraded the medium of which the interent will travel, DSL was the same medium different technology, cable runs over the same medium we've had for video, and wireless is a different beast. Looking foward to how data is being sent it seems best to build now for the future nees.</p> Mike: Why does the average person need it?

Its the Killer app question more in the form of the chicken and the egg. Do you have the bandwidth first or the app first? Thats a tricky question, and I have no historic references to cite however when you think about it developers might take the bandwidth before the app route. It really doesn’t seem to make sense to develop and great application that will not be usable due to the current state of connections in the country, maybe develop a service that will be enhanced by better speed but that probably wont bring the need be higher speeds either.

People need these speeds because of foward thinking. Most times we aren’t talking about a person on a connection but a family or small group of people. IPTV is something that seem promising and doesn’t need to be lock to you service provider and there is the all too unpredictable future. This will be really the first time we’ve upgraded the medium of which the interent will travel, DSL was the same medium different technology, cable runs over the same medium we’ve had for video, and wireless is a different beast. Looking foward to how data is being sent it seems best to build now for the future nees.

]]> By: mdutech http://gigaom.com/2007/10/01/making-ftth-cheaper/#comment-590357 mdutech Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:42:37 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/10/01/making-ftth-cheaper/#comment-590357 <p>The new fiber product is a small step forward, but they need to ensure that contractors avoid treating it like copper... Its benefits could easily be oversold and misused. Even some Corning folks are recommending that installers should still fall back on the accepted standards for fiber loss around bends as much as possible.</p> <p>The bigger question is: Why does the average person need it? HDTV could be the biggest reason eventually, but there are very few consumer applications that really require a lot of bandwidth (at least here in the U.S.). FTTH won't become significantly cheaper until a lot more people actually need it.</p> <p>Mike MultifamilyTechnology.com</p> The new fiber product is a small step forward, but they need to ensure that contractors avoid treating it like copper… Its benefits could easily be oversold and misused. Even some Corning folks are recommending that installers should still fall back on the accepted standards for fiber loss around bends as much as possible.

The bigger question is: Why does the average person need it? HDTV could be the biggest reason eventually, but there are very few consumer applications that really require a lot of bandwidth (at least here in the U.S.). FTTH won’t become significantly cheaper until a lot more people actually need it.

Mike MultifamilyTechnology.com

]]> By: Jim A http://gigaom.com/2007/10/01/making-ftth-cheaper/#comment-589903 Jim A Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:49:30 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/10/01/making-ftth-cheaper/#comment-589903 <p>Cost Saving Network Fiber Drop: You might want to take a look at a series of products from GarrettCom. They have a series of Hardened Fiber Switches (http://www.garrettcom.com/6kq.htm) that will allow a provider to deploy a Fiber Switch at any drop point on the Fiber that cost effectively drops off 4 each 10/100Mbps ports. In addition they provide for a fully redundand fail over ring design based on their S Ring architecture. This fits nicely in a Muni Network delivering true Broadband Gateway links to Mesh Nodes.</p> <p>Jim</p> Cost Saving Network Fiber Drop: You might want to take a look at a series of products from GarrettCom. They have a series of Hardened Fiber Switches (http://www.garrettcom.com/6kq.htm) that will allow a provider to deploy a Fiber Switch at any drop point on the Fiber that cost effectively drops off 4 each 10/100Mbps ports. In addition they provide for a fully redundand fail over ring design based on their S Ring architecture. This fits nicely in a Muni Network delivering true Broadband Gateway links to Mesh Nodes.

Jim

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