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By: Şarkı Sözleri

Şarkı Sözleri — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:14:02 +0000

I’m with you. As a side note, I find it amusing that the one guy who railed against you is upset you didn’t cover UT3 and MGS4 and Final Fantasy 354. Why not? Maybe because they’re old news. There will always be another one, they’re established franchises. The question is how is the game industry moving forward, advancing, innovating. PLC Programlama I think the answer is pretty clear. Its not. derbest Instead we’re getting high priced consoles featuring fancier looking regurgitations of established and tired franchise titles. dizi izle Wake me up when the innovators come back to gameville.

By: Velops

Velops — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:56:27 +0000

I would be worried too if I was at TGS. Japanese developers have a long history of experimentation.

By: Dean

Dean — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:03:57 +0000

Hmm…some of these responses are interesting. An opinion is an opinion, and a level one seems frighteningly difficult to find amongst gamers. Sony need to pull their socks up, Microsoft need to innovate more and Nintendo need to carry on doing what they are doing. Speaking of Nintendo – the Wii has taken everyone by suprise, and it’s this that has shaken the gaming world. There’s no reason to be defensive over a console or company – would they defend you? A PS3 is a PS3 is a PS3 – nothing more. Sony have treated their fans badly and Microsoft don’t really care about markets outside the US. (just as Nintendo are Nippon-centric). But so what?!! The next couple years are gonna be REAL interesting! STOP COMPLAINING!!

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:02:46 +0000

You can't have everything.

We have new powerful consoles, capable of amazing graphics, is this not what gameplayers have been after for many years now? But then to go on the new hardware we require the software, software that takes many man hours to create and costs an awful lot of money to create. Companies are obviously going to be wnating some kind of profit out of their software, and the onyl way to gaurantee that at the moment is to provide regurgitated gameplay, with better graphics. The big names are on their way, Halo 3 will make money, MGS4 will make money. Unfortunately it is a very big risk for a company to produce a game no one has ever heard of before as the product could flop on the name alone, let alone produce a game with a totally new concept of game play.

We, as the gamers can not complain about this, as it is us who have driven the market this way.

By: mike

mike — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 01:05:21 +0000

I was there yesterday and it was pretty good. One thing you have to remember is most of the games on the PLaystation store haven't been released in Japan yet but have else where.

I had a great time and I thought the 360 stand was ok. It had a range but nothing new, except halo 3 but again thats nothing new. I didnt look in to the wii as I dinht have time. Considering that in the last year sony have released two consoles, one maybe a revamp, what did you expect? All the good games have been reported and now we are waiting for the second wave of games for the PS3.

The BBC should remove this link as it is a waste of time and all "in my opinion" no facts at all.

By: Dennis

Dennis — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:12:08 +0000

I find your article mildy amusing, I must say that this is the TOKYO game show, not E3. This show is aimed at the eastern audiences, which are more into RPG’s and Puzzle games. But I also find it appauling to find that BBC posted your article on their site. This article is filled with useless critisicsm of Sony. True the rumble is a last-gen feature, but its also a feature that the PS3 currently DOES NOT HAVE. Gamers wanted, Sony delivered. Its also funny that you failed to mention all of the new game trailers that were shown at TGS for the PS3. Not just recycled E3 trailers but new ones that showed new parts of games and how far in developement some of them were. Such as Unreal Tournement 2007, this game looks so beautiful, its looks so good in fact that they could ship it tomorrow and no graphics whore in the universe could complain about how it looks.

By: Duncan

Duncan — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:59:02 +0000

Think about it … it’s early days for next-gen. Only a handful of consoles out there – the best is yet to come – a year or even 2 from now. When’s the best time to publish your groundbreaking IP… when there’s enough consoles to cash-in on the release. For the Sony PS3 – this will be sometime in a year or 2 from now. Until then … its sequel sequel sequel I’m afraid. I’m personally looking forward to Little Big Planet – among others.

By: Zack

Zack — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:37:47 +0000

"a floor packed with RPGs and third-person action and insipid puzzlers"

You forget that TGS is not aimed at the Western audience, and that its primary audience is the Japanese gaming market whose tastes and game styles differ to ours.

Many Japanese gamers still pile into the arcades which are numerous in the country - something which has become a "something to do whilst we wait to go in to the film" affair. That is still where a lot of money can be made there.

A "Web 2.0 world" is still a world run by the West. I'm not saying the Japanese are behind, but is it really right to force them to adopt a western creation?

And why are you criticising Sony for something that GAMERS have demanded return to the controller? Surely that's a good thing, even if it's not as big as you think it is?

By: Jag

Jag — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:45:10 +0000

Hi,

I own a ps1&2&3 and i think sony does deserve the hammering it is getting in the press but it took ps2 a couple of years to really take off, it struggled in the first year and i think the ps3 will do the same, sony are really trying with the playstation network this time. time will tell and i think sony will reclaim its crown but they will have to fight for it against the wii and not xbox

By: Pro Gamer Forums

Pro Gamer Forums — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:34:34 +0000

It's interesting, but hardly surprising, to hear the complaints. Sony became far too complacent in the home video market. The result was that they treated their loyal customers with arrogance, and the loyal customers are shrugging and moving on.

I had PS1 in the first days, and owned a PS2 as well. But at present there's little to sell the PS3 when PS Europe offers a console that is over priced, overdue, and under supplied.

By: sheepy

sheepy — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:28:34 +0000

oh a Web 2.0 world.

its pretty much a false concept that media brandish about far too much. if your gonna be reporting on games then stop slapping it on any game related article. Dual shock is big thing current ps3 owners wanted it and sony provided it, so what if its "old tech" at least it help various games on the ps2 and it would improve heavenly sword a fair bit.

you also seem to be wanting to see unique games (no i dont mean causal ) there was a time when Japanese devs were experimenting creating games that were very artistic and pleasant to play, sega made cosmic smash, rez, PAnic!, segaga,firemen, shenmue okami. there are many i have missed out many never sold well upon release

By: Richard

Richard — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:47:45 +0000

I can tell reading your article you were a little disheartened by the event, but then again I have to ask what your idea of ‘innovation’ is. Also, you have to remember with more power and more space on the next gen consoles comes new development challenges, longer development times (2 – 4 years) and much higher costs. Plus the developers need time to get the hang of. When did the console come out? When was the current hardware finalized? Also, isn’t new graphics detail improving characterization, animation and greater immersive environments . Isn’t this innovative? Hasn’t the original idea been developed just as the critics and a portion of the gaming community asked? Aren’t all those generic/franchised games what they keep wanting play? (And nicely done mentioning pretty much every genre of game as if it old hat, thought of any new genres recently then?) What you were really wanting to say was ‘I couldn’t see Sony/Sony Developers copying Miyamoto/Nintendo ideas’ (which have much simpler hardware so cheaper and less risky to develop on). I only hope if they had you wouldn’t then have criticized them for it. As for MSBox, I wouldn’t want to go near them, anyone seen what they did to the PC market?

By: lavan

lavan — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:30:46 +0000

Experts are and will always be wrong, your biased on your own opions on how you fell the industry should be heading or the manufactures you subconsciouly support.

it is moving away from the goal of high end graphics and raw processing power to more of an imersive environment that makes the player feel much more involved.

The market has to attract young and old through innovation, it seems like the only company that has got the forumlae right is Nintendo with it's wii consolse. Which if I remember correctly the so called experts got that wrong as well.

The consumers will always speak with their wallets regardless of industry hype or expert rubbish.

fact again that wii is the highest selling console in the shortest amount of time proves it.

regards

By: Rich

Rich — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 21:14:13 +0000

Personally I see this as part of the evolution of gaming. We, the gamers, were the ones desperate for sexy graphics. Now that we finally have it we realise the focus for gameplay has drifted. The PC proves this as far back as the release of Doom 3, fantastic graphics but dull gameplay. Interestingly in the console market Nintendo hasn’t followed suit and to me has got the balance right with the graphics, gameplay and interaction. The Xbox360 and PS3 seem to be focusing on graphics and being wannabe home entertainment hubs. I’m sure this will change and I anticipate some copy cat Wiimotes along the way. For a short period the Wii is going to enjoy some innovative success on its own.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:25:02 +0000

I'm with you. As a side note, I find it amusing that the one guy who railed against you is upset you didn't cover UT3 and MGS4 and Final Fantasy 354. Why not? Maybe because they're old news. There will always be another one, they're established franchises. The question is how is the game industry moving forward, advancing, innovating.

I think the answer is pretty clear. Its not.

Instead we're getting high priced consoles featuring fancier looking regurgitations of established and tired franchise titles.

Wake me up when the innovators come back to gameville.