Comments on: Looking Back To The Future of Data Centers http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:47:41 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: SERVERS DEDICATED http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-899881 SERVERS DEDICATED Wed, 17 Sep 2008 01:44:30 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-899881 <p>[...] Looking Back To The Future of Data Centers - I was talking to some colleagues earlier this month about Intel’s (INTC) plan to have an 80-core processor ready for the market within five years. I’ve written about commodity computing in this space before, but this latest Intel … You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. Tags: Dedicated Managed, Servers Dedicated [...]</p> [...] Looking Back To The Future of Data Centers – I was talking to some colleagues earlier this month about Intel’s (INTC) plan to have an 80-core processor ready for the market within five years. I’ve written about commodity computing in this space before, but this latest Intel … You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. Tags: Dedicated Managed, Servers Dedicated [...]

]]> By: Inexpensive, Powerful and Blindingly Fast - GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-876422 Inexpensive, Powerful and Blindingly Fast - GigaOM Thu, 01 May 2008 17:10:35 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-876422 <p>[...] post-2010 before we see an Intel announcement on an adapter card that runs 100 gigabit Ethernet. As I wrote last year, 100 gigabit Ethernet combined with multi-core Intel processors will be game-changing for the data [...]</p> [...] post-2010 before we see an Intel announcement on an adapter card that runs 100 gigabit Ethernet. As I wrote last year, 100 gigabit Ethernet combined with multi-core Intel processors will be game-changing for the data [...]

]]> By: Nima Negahban http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-550518 Nima Negahban Fri, 14 Sep 2007 03:01:23 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-550518 <p>By the time 80 core processors are common place in the server market those CPU's are mostly likely going to have 80 core's worth of actual old fashioned computation to be doing outside of the stuff that is handled by today's internet appliances. Pages will become more complex rendering processes as social context is integrated more. Not to mention that some people are just catching on to micro-formats and the vision of the 'semantic web' we have just begun to realize the complexity of the computational jobs ahead of us.</p> <p>But I may be wrong who knows. I think the main reason people insist on going with the integrated devices is that it keeps from having a single point of failure and it is easier to deploy from a configuration & integration stand point.</p> By the time 80 core processors are common place in the server market those CPU’s are mostly likely going to have 80 core’s worth of actual old fashioned computation to be doing outside of the stuff that is handled by today’s internet appliances. Pages will become more complex rendering processes as social context is integrated more. Not to mention that some people are just catching on to micro-formats and the vision of the ’semantic web’ we have just begun to realize the complexity of the computational jobs ahead of us.

But I may be wrong who knows. I think the main reason people insist on going with the integrated devices is that it keeps from having a single point of failure and it is easier to deploy from a configuration & integration stand point.

]]> By: Deepak Munjal http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-546688 Deepak Munjal Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:27:10 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-546688 <p>Hey Allan, great read. At VMWorld this week, everyone I ran into was either an ex-IBM, ex-Tandem, or ex-DEC person claiming that they've seen this movie before.</p> <p>The truth is that there are similarities to architectures of the past but there are a whole new set of problems that still need to be tackled and those with relevant experience will find an plenty of work.</p> Hey Allan, great read. At VMWorld this week, everyone I ran into was either an ex-IBM, ex-Tandem, or ex-DEC person claiming that they’ve seen this movie before.

The truth is that there are similarities to architectures of the past but there are a whole new set of problems that still need to be tackled and those with relevant experience will find an plenty of work.

]]> By: Vijay Chakravarthy http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-545213 Vijay Chakravarthy Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:41:00 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-545213 <p>One of the interesting implications of the multi-core computing initiatives is the notion of concurrency as a fundamental building block of programming. Currently, a lot of programming languages make this extremely difficult -- I believe there will be interesting shifts on the software side to accomodate some of these hardware trends. In fact, one of the reasons we wrote our server side software in Erlang was to allow it to run efficiently on multi-core systems (Sun's Niagara servers for example).</p> One of the interesting implications of the multi-core computing initiatives is the notion of concurrency as a fundamental building block of programming. Currently, a lot of programming languages make this extremely difficult — I believe there will be interesting shifts on the software side to accomodate some of these hardware trends. In fact, one of the reasons we wrote our server side software in Erlang was to allow it to run efficiently on multi-core systems (Sun’s Niagara servers for example).

]]> By: Andrew Schmitt http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-545123 Andrew Schmitt Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:13:10 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-545123 <p>The issue here is that the processor architectures for handling packets are totally different than the ones required for computing.</p> <p>Unless that changes there will be no one server.</p> <p>I could buy into the concept of two classes of hardware, one for computing and one for packet processing. Both virtualized. But not one, at least not in the next 5 years.</p> The issue here is that the processor architectures for handling packets are totally different than the ones required for computing.

Unless that changes there will be no one server.

I could buy into the concept of two classes of hardware, one for computing and one for packet processing. Both virtualized. But not one, at least not in the next 5 years.

]]> By: Victor Blake http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-545089 Victor Blake Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:58:14 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-545089 <p>I disagree. Issues of software reliability, and the flexibility needed to load and unload software mean that although computers will have the horse-power, the tasks will be divided among multiple computers to increase reliability. Of course to achieve high reliability doesn't require 350 computers running web compression (for example). The higher density computing platform will allow for the reduction of compute platforms to say 8, 16, or 32 computers (instead of 350). Of course they will require higher bandwidth per computer -- leading me to wonder why the computing folks so fiercly opposed 100GigE stating that 40GigE would be more than sufficient for a single server. If a single core can produce 1Gbps demand (on the network) than presumably an 80x core could at least produce more than 40x that of a 1x core in network demand (assuming that the 80x core computer is doing something with data from the outside world).....</p> I disagree. Issues of software reliability, and the flexibility needed to load and unload software mean that although computers will have the horse-power, the tasks will be divided among multiple computers to increase reliability. Of course to achieve high reliability doesn’t require 350 computers running web compression (for example). The higher density computing platform will allow for the reduction of compute platforms to say 8, 16, or 32 computers (instead of 350). Of course they will require higher bandwidth per computer — leading me to wonder why the computing folks so fiercly opposed 100GigE stating that 40GigE would be more than sufficient for a single server. If a single core can produce 1Gbps demand (on the network) than presumably an 80x core could at least produce more than 40x that of a 1x core in network demand (assuming that the 80x core computer is doing something with data from the outside world)…..

]]> By: Allan Leinwand http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-545042 Allan Leinwand Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:48:24 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-545042 <p>Francois-</p> <p>Can you send me a link to that technology? I've honestly never run across it yet....</p> Francois-

Can you send me a link to that technology? I’ve honestly never run across it yet….

]]> By: François Schiettecatte http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-545007 François Schiettecatte Wed, 12 Sep 2007 13:42:02 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/09/12/looking-back-to-the-future-of-data-centers/#comment-545007 <p>This also sounds suspiciously like the Connection Machine architecture from Thinking Machines.</p> This also sounds suspiciously like the Connection Machine architecture from Thinking Machines.

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