Comments on: Making Facebook Platform Apps Scale on the Cheap http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:01:18 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: links for 2009-11-20 | Webmaster Chronic http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-985485 links for 2009-11-20 | Webmaster Chronic Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:02:27 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-985485 [...] Making Facebook Platform Apps Scale on the Cheap old (2007) but a good read…. (tags: facebook scale) [...] [...] Making Facebook Platform Apps Scale on the Cheap old (2007) but a good read…. (tags: facebook scale) [...]

]]> By: Coming Soon, Free Hosting for Facebook Apps « GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925030 Coming Soon, Free Hosting for Facebook Apps « GigaOM Mon, 12 Nov 2007 14:00:41 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925030 <p>[...] Joyent hopes to make money when people upgrade to their higher-tier services. I don’t know how much they plan to charge, but I am guessing it is going to be a lot cheaper than what an app developer typically has to pay. Surj Patel had recommended using Amazon’s EC2 and S3 services as way to scale in our “Future of Software” series. [...]</p> [...] Joyent hopes to make money when people upgrade to their higher-tier services. I don’t know how much they plan to charge, but I am guessing it is going to be a lot cheaper than what an app developer typically has to pay. Surj Patel had recommended using Amazon’s EC2 and S3 services as way to scale in our “Future of Software” series. [...]

]]> By: Paul Bissett http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925031 Paul Bissett Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:53:51 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925031 <p>Surj,</p> <p>WeoCEO has just come out of private beta. It is free to use for stable IP addressing and auto-recovery for a single managed instance.</p> <p>Load-balancing and auto-scaling are free until later this year. We expect to be charging for these features in the future.</p> <p>This blog post (http://blogs.weogeo.com/pbissett/2007/10/18/weoceo-emerging-from-private-beta/) has further details.</p> <p>thanks, p</p> Surj,

WeoCEO has just come out of private beta. It is free to use for stable IP addressing and auto-recovery for a single managed instance.

Load-balancing and auto-scaling are free until later this year. We expect to be charging for these features in the future.

This blog post (http://blogs.weogeo.com/pbissett/2007/10/18/weoceo-emerging-from-private-beta/) has further details.

thanks,
p

]]> By: Auf “Erhellendes zu Plattformen” … « The Future of Learning http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925029 Auf “Erhellendes zu Plattformen” … « The Future of Learning Mon, 17 Sep 2007 17:19:31 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925029 <p>[...] Plattform Ebene 2 (Plug-In APIs): Hier passiert wesentlich mehr als nur ein Datenaustausch, das Nutzungserlebnis auf der Plattform selbst verändert sich. In der Desktop-Welt z.B. wenn ein Nutzer aus freien Stücken eine Plug-In für Firefox installiert. Firefox ist dabei die Plattform, weil sie es Entwicklern ermöglicht Module zu schreiben, die sich bildhaft gesprochen zusammenstecken lassen und so einen tieferen Integrationsgrad als Ebene 1 darstellen. In der Online-Welt - und auch heute kommen wir nicht an unserem neuesten Lieblingsthema vorbei - lautet das Paradebeispiel: Facebook. Allerdings, was mir bis vor kurzem durch die Lappen gegangen war: Die Applikationen werden nicht bei Facebook, sondern wiederum auf der Infrastruktur-Umgebung der Urheber entwickelt und vor allem gehostet. Problem: Wenn diese Applikationen beliebt werden, ergeben sich bei der Skalierug schnell massive Performance-Ausfälle, wie Surj Patel ausführlich schreibt. [...]</p> [...] Plattform Ebene 2 (Plug-In APIs): Hier passiert wesentlich mehr als nur ein Datenaustausch, das Nutzungserlebnis auf der Plattform selbst verändert sich. In der Desktop-Welt z.B. wenn ein Nutzer aus freien Stücken eine Plug-In für Firefox installiert. Firefox ist dabei die Plattform, weil sie es Entwicklern ermöglicht Module zu schreiben, die sich bildhaft gesprochen zusammenstecken lassen und so einen tieferen Integrationsgrad als Ebene 1 darstellen. In der Online-Welt – und auch heute kommen wir nicht an unserem neuesten Lieblingsthema vorbei – lautet das Paradebeispiel: Facebook. Allerdings, was mir bis vor kurzem durch die Lappen gegangen war: Die Applikationen werden nicht bei Facebook, sondern wiederum auf der Infrastruktur-Umgebung der Urheber entwickelt und vor allem gehostet. Problem: Wenn diese Applikationen beliebt werden, ergeben sich bei der Skalierug schnell massive Performance-Ausfälle, wie Surj Patel ausführlich schreibt. [...]

]]> By: Erhellendes zu “Plattformen” - eLAB-Blog http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925028 Erhellendes zu “Plattformen” - eLAB-Blog Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:00:37 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925028 <p>[...] Plattform Ebene 2 (Plug-In APIs): Hier passiert wesentlich mehr als nur ein Datenaustausch, das Nutzungserlebnis auf der Plattform selbst verändert sich. In der Desktop-Welt z.B. wenn ein Nutzer aus freien Stücken eine Plug-In für Firefox installiert. Firefox ist dabei die Plattform, weil sie es Entwicklern ermöglicht Module zu schreiben, die sich bildhaft gesprochen zusammenstecken lassen und so einen tieferen Integrationsgrad als Ebene 1 darstellen. In der Online-Welt - und auch heute kommen wir nicht an unserem neuesten Lieblingsthema vorbei - lautet das Paradebeispiel: Facebook. Allerdings, was mir bis vor kurzem durch die Lappen gegangen war: Die Applikationen werden nicht bei Facebook, sondern wiederum auf der Infrastruktur-Umgebung der Urheber entwickelt und vor allem gehostet. Problem: Wenn diese Applikationen beliebt werden, ergeben sich bei der Skalierug schnell massive Performance-Ausfälle, wie Surj Patel ausführlich schreibt. [...]</p> [...] Plattform Ebene 2 (Plug-In APIs): Hier passiert wesentlich mehr als nur ein Datenaustausch, das Nutzungserlebnis auf der Plattform selbst verändert sich. In der Desktop-Welt z.B. wenn ein Nutzer aus freien Stücken eine Plug-In für Firefox installiert. Firefox ist dabei die Plattform, weil sie es Entwicklern ermöglicht Module zu schreiben, die sich bildhaft gesprochen zusammenstecken lassen und so einen tieferen Integrationsgrad als Ebene 1 darstellen. In der Online-Welt – und auch heute kommen wir nicht an unserem neuesten Lieblingsthema vorbei – lautet das Paradebeispiel: Facebook. Allerdings, was mir bis vor kurzem durch die Lappen gegangen war: Die Applikationen werden nicht bei Facebook, sondern wiederum auf der Infrastruktur-Umgebung der Urheber entwickelt und vor allem gehostet. Problem: Wenn diese Applikationen beliebt werden, ergeben sich bei der Skalierug schnell massive Performance-Ausfälle, wie Surj Patel ausführlich schreibt. [...]

]]> By: Federico Feroldi’s blog » Blog Archive » links for 2007-09-16 http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925027 Federico Feroldi’s blog » Blog Archive » links for 2007-09-16 Sun, 16 Sep 2007 20:19:57 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925027 <p>[...] Making Facebook Platform Apps Scale on the Cheap « The Future of Software (tags: scalability facebook amazon s3 ec2 aws scaling) [...]</p> [...] Making Facebook Platform Apps Scale on the Cheap « The Future of Software (tags: scalability facebook amazon s3 ec2 aws scaling) [...]

]]> By: Scalable web architectures » Blog Archive » Scalability Stories (15th Sept) Mysql Proxy, Cluster Fire System, Facebook apps and Twitter http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925026 Scalable web architectures » Blog Archive » Scalability Stories (15th Sept) Mysql Proxy, Cluster Fire System, Facebook apps and Twitter Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:59:47 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925026 <p>[...] Making Facebook Apps scale on cheap : An interesting writeup By Surj Patel about Scalability issues Facebook itself and the 3rd Party apps on it have. Also discusses EC2 and S3 as an alternative solution to scale in a cost effective way. [...]</p> [...] Making Facebook Apps scale on cheap : An interesting writeup By Surj Patel about Scalability issues Facebook itself and the 3rd Party apps on it have. Also discusses EC2 and S3 as an alternative solution to scale in a cost effective way. [...]

]]> By: Facebook Apps Are Pointless If They Don’t Work « iBrian http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925025 Facebook Apps Are Pointless If They Don’t Work « iBrian Fri, 14 Sep 2007 05:57:01 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925025 <p>[...] Patel is discussing an important issue about Facebook applications over at The Future of [...]</p> [...] Patel is discussing an important issue about Facebook applications over at The Future of [...]

]]> By: Nima Negahban http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925024 Nima Negahban Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:24:46 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925024 <p>These are two game changing platforms especially when you write abstractions to simplify there use. Services like rightscale I'm sure have they're place but looking at they're cost structure its more effective for a developer to write there own management scripts and use available open source tools. EC2 for example is very nicely managed with the EC2 firefox extension.</p> <p>http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?entryID=609</p> These are two game changing platforms especially when you write abstractions to simplify there use. Services like rightscale I’m sure have they’re place but looking at they’re cost structure its more effective for a developer to write there own management scripts and use available open source tools. EC2 for example is very nicely managed with the EC2 firefox extension.

http://developer.amazonwebservices.com/connect/entry.jspa?entryID=609

]]> By: Berlin http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925023 Berlin Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:39:58 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925023 <p>Rightscale fees are still up there, beyond the budget of students bootstrapping a start-up.</p> Rightscale fees are still up there, beyond the budget of students bootstrapping a start-up.

]]> By: Facebook Applications - Don’t forget the scale question « John Furrier http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925022 Facebook Applications - Don’t forget the scale question « John Furrier Thu, 13 Sep 2007 18:26:16 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925022 <p>[...] This is a great article that I found on my good old friend GigaOm site.  It’s key to understand that developers need to get a handle on the following. [...]</p> [...] This is a great article that I found on my good old friend GigaOm site.  It’s key to understand that developers need to get a handle on the following. [...]

]]> By: Can Amazon Make Startupping A Science? « GigaOM http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925021 Can Amazon Make Startupping A Science? « GigaOM Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:05:22 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925021 <p>[...] Making Facebook Platform applications scale on the cheap Share This | Sphere | Topic: Featured, Startups | [...]</p> [...] Making Facebook Platform applications scale on the cheap Share This | Sphere | Topic: Featured, Startups | [...]

]]> By: Learn PHP http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925020 Learn PHP Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:13:47 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925020 <p>You have to look at the root of the problem. The reason these apps fail is because of their so calleded "developers". Most of these apps are built by individual (mostly young people and students) who don't have any industry experience in software development. Therefore, the end result is poorly written code which thus results in broken application.</p> You have to look at the root of the problem. The reason these apps fail is because of their so calleded “developers”. Most of these apps are built by individual (mostly young people and students) who don’t have any industry experience in software development. Therefore, the end result is poorly written code which thus results in broken application.

]]> By: Michael Crandell http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925019 Michael Crandell Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:30:31 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925019 <p>Thanks for covering this space, Surj. We just finished the day participating in Amazon's "Startup Project" conference for startups and VCs -- and the energy and interest around web-scale computing was pretty remarkable.</p> <p>An example of a RightScale customer with a cool new service based entirely on AWS (EC2 and S3) is Animoto, which combines user photos and music into professional animated slide shows -- check out www.animoto.com. Their site is snappy, easy to maintain, and scaled right out of the gate. And they're running both a load-balanced, fault tolerant web front end, and a full master/slave MySQL implementation on top of RightScale and AWS.</p> Thanks for covering this space, Surj. We just finished the day participating in Amazon’s “Startup Project” conference for startups and VCs — and the energy and interest around web-scale computing was pretty remarkable.

An example of a RightScale customer with a cool new service based entirely on AWS (EC2 and S3) is Animoto, which combines user photos and music into professional animated slide shows — check out http://www.animoto.com. Their site is snappy, easy to maintain, and scaled right out of the gate. And they’re running both a load-balanced, fault tolerant web front end, and a full master/slave MySQL implementation on top of RightScale and AWS.

]]> By: Alexander van Elsas http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925018 Alexander van Elsas Thu, 13 Sep 2007 06:02:32 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925018 <p>Hi Surj,</p> <p>Besides the difficult technical hurdles programmers will have to take, perhaps there could be another way of improving the quality. I wonder if it would be possible that the Facebook developers themselves create some sort of "Facebook developers approved" stamp for new apps. I know that there are many applications eveloped, but if the commnity would draw up some quality standards an set up a community testing environment, I feel the quality would definitely go up. And that would benefit all, including developers learning the trick.</p> <p>Good article,</p> <p>Alexander</p> Hi Surj,

Besides the difficult technical hurdles programmers will have to take, perhaps there could be another way of improving the quality. I wonder if it would be possible that the Facebook developers themselves create some sort of “Facebook developers approved” stamp for new apps. I know that there are many applications eveloped, but if the commnity would draw up some quality standards an set up a community testing environment, I feel the quality would definitely go up. And that would benefit all, including developers learning the trick.

Good article,

Alexander

]]> By: Wie Apps gut mitwachsen können http://gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925017 Wie Apps gut mitwachsen können Thu, 13 Sep 2007 05:58:13 +0000 http://future.gigaom.com/2007/09/11/making-facebook-platform-apps-scale-on-the-cheap/#comment-925017 <p>[...] sich Gedanken über das Wachstum von Apps bei Facebook gemacht und ein paar Ratschläge formuliert: Making Facebook Platform Apps Scale on the Cheap. Letztendlich sind seine Hinweise nicht Facebook-spezifisch, sondern eine generelle Empfehlung, wie [...]</p> [...] sich Gedanken über das Wachstum von Apps bei Facebook gemacht und ein paar Ratschläge formuliert: Making Facebook Platform Apps Scale on the Cheap. Letztendlich sind seine Hinweise nicht Facebook-spezifisch, sondern eine generelle Empfehlung, wie [...]

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