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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/09/04/does-online-gaming-matter-to-consoles/#comment-179473</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;as high speed internet becomes more available 2 the masses online gaming will go up, and i think online gaming helps ur skill i could say right now without a doubt if anyone challenged me at halo or gears of war or any other game that can be played online and they had no online experience i would stomp them&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as high speed internet becomes more available 2 the masses online gaming will go up, and i think online gaming helps ur skill i could say right now without a doubt if anyone challenged me at halo or gears of war or any other game that can be played online and they had no online experience i would stomp them</p>
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		<title>By: Blake Snow</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/09/04/does-online-gaming-matter-to-consoles/#comment-179472</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blake Snow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the comments, everyone. Some good points were made that online can be so much more than multiplayer.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Does online matter to consoles? Yes it does, and I should have stated this more clearly in my original post. Is the feature currently over hyped. I think so.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments, everyone. Some good points were made that online can be so much more than multiplayer.</p>
<p>Does online matter to consoles? Yes it does, and I should have stated this more clearly in my original post. Is the feature currently over hyped. I think so.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/09/04/does-online-gaming-matter-to-consoles/#comment-179471</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JM]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Blake, your truly getting pounded for this post. You should have done a bit more research and posted actual figures, and not to mention leaving out a third of your post. LOL.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You forget the masses that have bought a console just because of online play. The main reason I bought the XBOX 360 was because of what it offered with XBOX LIVE. No other console has a comparable online experience. A better title for your post could have been &quot;when will the masses catch on to online play?&quot;. I&#039;m pretty sure there are a lot of factors that your missing as to why the numbers are so low as of right now. For example, broadband availability. How many households of console owners actually have web access? That would have been a great number to feature in your article. Although, you probably would have made that number up too. Then someone would catch you on it and then we would see an update to this post. Just some food for thought. Good luck on your next post.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blake, your truly getting pounded for this post. You should have done a bit more research and posted actual figures, and not to mention leaving out a third of your post. LOL.</p>
<p>You forget the masses that have bought a console just because of online play. The main reason I bought the XBOX 360 was because of what it offered with XBOX LIVE. No other console has a comparable online experience. A better title for your post could have been &#8220;when will the masses catch on to online play?&#8221;. I&#8217;m pretty sure there are a lot of factors that your missing as to why the numbers are so low as of right now. For example, broadband availability. How many households of console owners actually have web access? That would have been a great number to feature in your article. Although, you probably would have made that number up too. Then someone would catch you on it and then we would see an update to this post. Just some food for thought. Good luck on your next post.</p>
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		<title>By: R.Pad</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/09/04/does-online-gaming-matter-to-consoles/#comment-179470</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R.Pad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 06:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Jim Greer and Srs Bznis make excellent points. All Xbox 360 games have an online component. It&#039;s required. GH2 is a great example. I prefer it greatly on Xbox 360 because I can compare my achievements and scores to my friends&#039; online. Is that online gaming in the tradtional fps sense? No. It&#039;s definitely an online component of GH2 though. There are loads of games in the same boat.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Greer and Srs Bznis make excellent points. All Xbox 360 games have an online component. It&#8217;s required. GH2 is a great example. I prefer it greatly on Xbox 360 because I can compare my achievements and scores to my friends&#8217; online. Is that online gaming in the tradtional fps sense? No. It&#8217;s definitely an online component of GH2 though. There are loads of games in the same boat.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/09/04/does-online-gaming-matter-to-consoles/#comment-179469</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Wow, there are now at least 2 venture-backed CEO&#039;s from game related companies who have chimed in on this blog posting.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Blake, its great that you are interested in the gaming space and its great you express this interest via you blog posting.  But, talk to guys like Jim Greer or other figures in the space who have a finger on the pulse.  They have a wealth of knowledge about what really goes on &#039;inside the walls&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To add more evidence of a connected community, look no further then Guitar Hero II on the Xbox 360 system.  By reviewing a leaderboard on Live, you will see over 750,000 users in that environment.  Each one of those users was &quot;connected&quot; as part of the online game play.  Sure, they did not connect with another gamer in the truest definition of &#039;online gaming&#039; but they still benefited from it.  And I might add that GH2 launched a mere 5-5.5 months ago.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Those are some pretty amazing numbers you might want to add your notes.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Srs Bznis&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, there are now at least 2 venture-backed CEO&#8217;s from game related companies who have chimed in on this blog posting.</p>
<p>Blake, its great that you are interested in the gaming space and its great you express this interest via you blog posting.  But, talk to guys like Jim Greer or other figures in the space who have a finger on the pulse.  They have a wealth of knowledge about what really goes on &#8216;inside the walls&#8217;.</p>
<p>To add more evidence of a connected community, look no further then Guitar Hero II on the Xbox 360 system.  By reviewing a leaderboard on Live, you will see over 750,000 users in that environment.  Each one of those users was &#8220;connected&#8221; as part of the online game play.  Sure, they did not connect with another gamer in the truest definition of &#8216;online gaming&#8217; but they still benefited from it.  And I might add that GH2 launched a mere 5-5.5 months ago.</p>
<p>Those are some pretty amazing numbers you might want to add your notes.</p>
<p>Srs Bznis</p>
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		<title>By: John Thacker</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/09/04/does-online-gaming-matter-to-consoles/#comment-179468</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Thacker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;My roommate would not have purchased BioShock were it not for the demo, which was only downloadable through XBox Live.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m also enjoying the games that I&#039;ve downloaded through the Wii&#039;s Virtual Console, including Super Metroid.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sega clearly bet too early on downloadable content, since it was still too much the modem era when they tried it with the Dreamcast.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My roommate would not have purchased BioShock were it not for the demo, which was only downloadable through XBox Live.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also enjoying the games that I&#8217;ve downloaded through the Wii&#8217;s Virtual Console, including Super Metroid.</p>
<p>Sega clearly bet too early on downloadable content, since it was still too much the modem era when they tried it with the Dreamcast.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Greer</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/09/04/does-online-gaming-matter-to-consoles/#comment-179467</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Greer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 21:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&quot;Not a drop of online support?&quot; - that&#039;s a stretch. One of my main motivators for playing single player games on XBL is unlocking achievements that my friends can see. I&#039;m not the only one. And Bioshock supports achievements. It&#039;s such a great game that it would sell well anyway, but if it didn&#039;t have them people would be outraged. (And MSFT wouldn&#039;t allow it on the console anyway).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=271&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not a drop of online support?&#8221; &#8211; that&#8217;s a stretch. One of my main motivators for playing single player games on XBL is unlocking achievements that my friends can see. I&#8217;m not the only one. And Bioshock supports achievements. It&#8217;s such a great game that it would sell well anyway, but if it didn&#8217;t have them people would be outraged. (And MSFT wouldn&#8217;t allow it on the console anyway).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=271" rel="nofollow">http://www.xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=271</a></p>
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		<title>By: Victor Blake</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/09/04/does-online-gaming-matter-to-consoles/#comment-179466</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victor Blake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Online gaming is to gaming what the Internet is the computing. It&#039;s the future. While it may be small now it is becoming increasingly intertwined. Even those gamers who do no &quot;GO ONLINE to play against other gamers&quot; are at least in-advertently using online gaming capabilities. Some of the games now place SPOT ADDS on your computer gaming opponoents race vehicles (for example) and download new content for your existing games. In addition there are rankings/leader boards, etc. The possibilties are amazing and will continue.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s a new technology that relies on always-on broadband. The adaption rate is slow. It doesn&#039;t help that some residential broadband operators are actually blocking some of the functionality .... (like Toredo IPv6 over UDP over IPv4 tunneling for the Wii....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;-Victor&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Online gaming is to gaming what the Internet is the computing. It&#8217;s the future. While it may be small now it is becoming increasingly intertwined. Even those gamers who do no &#8220;GO ONLINE to play against other gamers&#8221; are at least in-advertently using online gaming capabilities. Some of the games now place SPOT ADDS on your computer gaming opponoents race vehicles (for example) and download new content for your existing games. In addition there are rankings/leader boards, etc. The possibilties are amazing and will continue.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a new technology that relies on always-on broadband. The adaption rate is slow. It doesn&#8217;t help that some residential broadband operators are actually blocking some of the functionality &#8230;. (like Toredo IPv6 over UDP over IPv4 tunneling for the Wii&#8230;.</p>
<p>-Victor</p>
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		<title>By: L&#8217;online non tira? &#8212; Kurai - Federico Fasce</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/09/04/does-online-gaming-matter-to-consoles/#comment-179465</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L&#8217;online non tira? &#8212; Kurai - Federico Fasce]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;[...] (grazie alla segnalazione di Tommaso) su GigaOM un&#8217;interessante riflessione sullo stato attuale dell&#8217;industria dei videogame e sul [...]&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (grazie alla segnalazione di Tommaso) su GigaOM un&#8217;interessante riflessione sullo stato attuale dell&#8217;industria dei videogame e sul [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blake Snow</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/09/04/does-online-gaming-matter-to-consoles/#comment-179464</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blake Snow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&quot;Entrepreneur,&quot; I&#039;m not sure how my above article was bigotry, though I&#039;d appreciate it if you cited specifics.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Eric, about 33% of the games I play are online and rising. I&#039;m not convinced, however, that makes online play a vital part to games. Also, you&#039;re right about the Bioshock themes, gamerscore, and demo downloads, but I wouldn&#039;t call that online or vital to the BioShock experience.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Entrepreneur,&#8221; I&#8217;m not sure how my above article was bigotry, though I&#8217;d appreciate it if you cited specifics.</p>
<p>Eric, about 33% of the games I play are online and rising. I&#8217;m not convinced, however, that makes online play a vital part to games. Also, you&#8217;re right about the Bioshock themes, gamerscore, and demo downloads, but I wouldn&#8217;t call that online or vital to the BioShock experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Atkins</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/09/04/does-online-gaming-matter-to-consoles/#comment-179463</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Atkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;9 of 10 games I play are online enabled.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, Bioshock does have online features.  For instance, you must be online to add points to your gamerscore, download Bioshock themes, gamerpics, etc.  The only way to get the Bioshock demo was to download it from XBOX Live.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s an online marketplace for all games.  Sure you can get by without being connected, but you aren&#039;t getting the full experience.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9 of 10 games I play are online enabled.</p>
<p>Also, Bioshock does have online features.  For instance, you must be online to add points to your gamerscore, download Bioshock themes, gamerpics, etc.  The only way to get the Bioshock demo was to download it from XBOX Live.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an online marketplace for all games.  Sure you can get by without being connected, but you aren&#8217;t getting the full experience.</p>
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		<title>By: spot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[spot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I think you are overlooking some pretty big related factors in terms of broadband access, the cost of getting wifi to gaming systems etc. Consider that the Xbox 360  - the system with the most advanced online ecosystem - doesn&#039;t ship with a wireless card. Then consider a 12 year old kid having to convince his parents to let him run a LAN cable from the household router into his living room or bed room and/or spend even more money on gaming peripherals (not games mind you, which was the whole point to being with).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Seems to me that your analysis is pretty superficial.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are overlooking some pretty big related factors in terms of broadband access, the cost of getting wifi to gaming systems etc. Consider that the Xbox 360  &#8211; the system with the most advanced online ecosystem &#8211; doesn&#8217;t ship with a wireless card. Then consider a 12 year old kid having to convince his parents to let him run a LAN cable from the household router into his living room or bed room and/or spend even more money on gaming peripherals (not games mind you, which was the whole point to being with).</p>
<p>Seems to me that your analysis is pretty superficial.</p>
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		<title>By: entrepreneur</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/09/04/does-online-gaming-matter-to-consoles/#comment-179461</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[entrepreneur]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;nothing else, nothing more.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;that&#039;s why you&#039;re a journalist and we are entrepreneurs.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;we see stuff happening before you do, you just report news of the past.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;that&#039;s okay if that&#039;s what you want to do and you get paid for it, good for you !&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;what makes it intolerable is the degree of know-it-all bigotry you excercise.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nothing else, nothing more.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s why you&#8217;re a journalist and we are entrepreneurs.</p>
<p>we see stuff happening before you do, you just report news of the past.</p>
<p>that&#8217;s okay if that&#8217;s what you want to do and you get paid for it, good for you !</p>
<p>what makes it intolerable is the degree of know-it-all bigotry you excercise.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake Snow</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/09/04/does-online-gaming-matter-to-consoles/#comment-179460</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blake Snow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;As mentioned in the final paragraph, the article isn&#039;t suggesting that online gaming will decline. Overall online use can actually increase over time (which I believe it will) even though initial adoption rate will likely fall as stated above.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The real point of the post merely challenges the prevailing wisdom that online is the end all be all of gaming. Does anyone have data showing that online is more than just a value-add to the much larger (and profitable) goal of interactive entertainment?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not trying to knock online play at all, just tempering the hype.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As mentioned in the final paragraph, the article isn&#8217;t suggesting that online gaming will decline. Overall online use can actually increase over time (which I believe it will) even though initial adoption rate will likely fall as stated above.</p>
<p>The real point of the post merely challenges the prevailing wisdom that online is the end all be all of gaming. Does anyone have data showing that online is more than just a value-add to the much larger (and profitable) goal of interactive entertainment?</p>
<p>Not trying to knock online play at all, just tempering the hype.</p>
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		<title>By: Wagner James Au</title>
		<link>http://gigaom.com/2007/09/04/does-online-gaming-matter-to-consoles/#comment-179459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wagner James Au]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;&quot;Sony didn’t have 3 million PS3 consoles&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re right, Lance, I added a fix for Blake; thanks for the catch.  (Hopefully I got the % math right.)  Hopefully he&#039;ll come in soon to discuss his other points.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sony didn’t have 3 million PS3 consoles&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, Lance, I added a fix for Blake; thanks for the catch.  (Hopefully I got the % math right.)  Hopefully he&#8217;ll come in soon to discuss his other points.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;ahahhahahahahahha.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;uh, no.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahahhahahahahahha.</p>
<p>uh, no.</p>
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