Comments on: All Americans To Have Mobile Phones by 2013 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/ Trusted Insights and Conversations on the Next Wave of Technology Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:34:40 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Manju http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-788443 Manju Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:30:57 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-788443 <p>That is really impressive figures.Still India have to go much more.In India total teledensity is below 30% .</p> That is really impressive figures.Still India have to go much more.In India total teledensity is below 30% .

]]> By: Study suggests 100% mobile phone penetration in the US by 2013 at RazorSharp iPods & Raw Gadgets http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-491540 Study suggests 100% mobile phone penetration in the US by 2013 at RazorSharp iPods & Raw Gadgets Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:58:31 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-491540 <p>[...] Read | Permalink | Email this | Linking Blogs | Comments [...]</p> [...] Read | Permalink | Email this | Linking Blogs | Comments [...]

]]> By: The Law of Mobility » Blog Archive » Recent Research: August 2007 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-483895 The Law of Mobility » Blog Archive » Recent Research: August 2007 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:46:35 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-483895 <p>[...] US mobile penetration to hit 100% in 2013 [...]</p> [...] US mobile penetration to hit 100% in 2013 [...]

]]> By: sean http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-480232 sean Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:20:30 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-480232 <p>I am glad that mobile continues to grow. The mobile phone is becoming a wallet and a great way for people to help each other and increase the success of cause type campaigns. We definately see that in all our clients here at MobileCause.</p> <p>Connect. And Change the World!</p> <p>Sean mobilecause.com a mobile social enabler</p> I am glad that mobile continues to grow. The mobile phone is becoming a wallet and a great way for people to help each other and increase the success of cause type campaigns. We definately see that in all our clients here at MobileCause.

Connect. And Change the World!

Sean mobilecause.com a mobile social enabler

]]> By: びっくり http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-478162 びっくり Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:47:42 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-478162 <p>Why do we base our technical decisions on what some comedian named Kagan on Saturday Night Live says? ;)</p> Why do we base our technical decisions on what some comedian named Kagan on Saturday Night Live says? ;)

]]> By: Andrew http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-477509 Andrew Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:39:46 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-477509 <p>Yes, by 2013 it will be illegal not to have a mobile phone. Already in Boston there is a crime against conformity called DWC: driving without cellphone. But there are few offenders.</p> Yes, by 2013 it will be illegal not to have a mobile phone. Already in Boston there is a crime against conformity called DWC: driving without cellphone. But there are few offenders.

]]> By: iLibrarian » Why Mobile Matters http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-477088 iLibrarian » Why Mobile Matters Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:43:41 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-477088 <p>[...] a US perspective, check out yesterday’s GigaOM post All Americans To Have Mobile Phones by 2013. Om Malik reports on research by SNL Kagan that shows that nearly 84% of the US population will [...]</p> [...] a US perspective, check out yesterday’s GigaOM post All Americans To Have Mobile Phones by 2013. Om Malik reports on research by SNL Kagan that shows that nearly 84% of the US population will [...]

]]> By: Sam http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-476953 Sam Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:47:23 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-476953 <p>Data is not at 17% today in the US. Non-voice might be 17%, but that includes P2P SMS, which does not flow over the data channel and is not a "data service" in any meaningful sense of the word. The EU operators pushed this conflation when they were getting beat up in the markets for overpaying for spectrum early in the decade. "Hey, let's call all that cheesy old SMS traffic 'data' and then we can claim ROI on those fancy new networks that we're building out..."</p> Data is not at 17% today in the US. Non-voice might be 17%, but that includes P2P SMS, which does not flow over the data channel and is not a “data service” in any meaningful sense of the word. The EU operators pushed this conflation when they were getting beat up in the markets for overpaying for spectrum early in the decade. “Hey, let’s call all that cheesy old SMS traffic ‘data’ and then we can claim ROI on those fancy new networks that we’re building out…”

]]> By: Yogesh Kaushik http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-476269 Yogesh Kaushik Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:11:41 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-476269 <p>I think Mobility is hardly a competitive market and it's not likely to change very soon. If it was so, iPhone would not create the mania it did. Mobile voice, on the other hand, is a commodity and the ARPU growth would definitely not come from voice. The growth opportunities in the mobile ecosystem are video, data, m-commerce, advertising, converged devices, localisation and personalisation to name a few off the top of my head. How much of this value is captured by the MNO is a different question.</p> I think Mobility is hardly a competitive market and it’s not likely to change very soon. If it was so, iPhone would not create the mania it did. Mobile voice, on the other hand, is a commodity and the ARPU growth would definitely not come from voice. The growth opportunities in the mobile ecosystem are video, data, m-commerce, advertising, converged devices, localisation and personalisation to name a few off the top of my head. How much of this value is captured by the MNO is a different question.

]]> By: Raindeer http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-476016 Raindeer Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:49:06 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-476016 <p>Interesting that they expect ARPU to grow. Wouldn't it be logical that in a <em>competitive</em> market ARPU would drop? The marginal costs of adding extra customers is close to zero. Same goes for offering the customers more bits/minutes/services or better quality for the same price. Economic theory would therefore predict there would be pressure on margins.</p> <p>On top of this, there is a significant divide in the US between the haves and the broke poor. The bottom of the market is interesting, but for them prices do need to come down</p> Interesting that they expect ARPU to grow. Wouldn’t it be logical that in a competitive market ARPU would drop? The marginal costs of adding extra customers is close to zero. Same goes for offering the customers more bits/minutes/services or better quality for the same price. Economic theory would therefore predict there would be pressure on margins.

On top of this, there is a significant divide in the US between the haves and the broke poor. The bottom of the market is interesting, but for them prices do need to come down

]]> By: David Mackey http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-475811 David Mackey Fri, 24 Aug 2007 06:01:37 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-475811 <p>Data growth will be the future - b/c it will be the only revenue. Soon we will be using VoIP on our cells and the source of revenue for carriers will be data plans (and devices/peripherals).</p> Data growth will be the future – b/c it will be the only revenue. Soon we will be using VoIP on our cells and the source of revenue for carriers will be data plans (and devices/peripherals).

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-474921 Om Malik Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:54:27 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-474921 <p>Kevin</p> <p>Good point. Of course mobile companies are counting on subscribers like me who are stuck with iPhone and need blackberry to really get email on the go. Anyway i think the point about younger people is a valid one, though in the aging population, i think it might not be the case, given the healthcare needs etc. my two cents.</p> Kevin

Good point. Of course mobile companies are counting on subscribers like me who are stuck with iPhone and need blackberry to really get email on the go. Anyway i think the point about younger people is a valid one, though in the aging population, i think it might not be the case, given the healthcare needs etc. my two cents.

]]> By: Kevin Walsh http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-474904 Kevin Walsh Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:47:57 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-474904 <p>I’ll add this to my collection of ridiculous prognostications that indicate we’re entering another tech bubble.</p> <p>17% of the US population is under 10 or over 80. And while a subset of those age groups do have cell phones, it’s small and will always be so (7% are under 5; I doubt even well-heeled toddlers in Palo Alto are sporting cell phones). For the Kagan estimate (“more than 100 percent”) to be true, a very, very large number of people would need to have two or more cell phones. And while having the latest gadget is mandatory for the digital elite, having two or more cell phones is a sign of insecurity.</p> I’ll add this to my collection of ridiculous prognostications that indicate we’re entering another tech bubble.

17% of the US population is under 10 or over 80. And while a subset of those age groups do have cell phones, it’s small and will always be so (7% are under 5; I doubt even well-heeled toddlers in Palo Alto are sporting cell phones). For the Kagan estimate (“more than 100 percent”) to be true, a very, very large number of people would need to have two or more cell phones. And while having the latest gadget is mandatory for the digital elite, having two or more cell phones is a sign of insecurity.

]]> By: Jason Coleman http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-474858 Jason Coleman Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:30:18 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-474858 <p>I misread the title as "All Americans <em>HAVE TO HAVE</em> Mobile Phones by 2013" like it was some kind of government mandate.</p> <p>I was thinking of an "improvement" to the national ID card. Not only will you be forced to ID yourself and let them always know where you are (through RFID), but you must also be available for propaganda... er public service... calls.</p> I misread the title as “All Americans HAVE TO HAVE Mobile Phones by 2013″ like it was some kind of government mandate.

I was thinking of an “improvement” to the national ID card. Not only will you be forced to ID yourself and let them always know where you are (through RFID), but you must also be available for propaganda… er public service… calls.

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-474849 Om Malik Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:22:30 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-474849 <p>Yes, you can go past 100% - Sweden, Finland are perfect examples, because people have multiple phones/devices.</p> Yes, you can go past 100% – Sweden, Finland are perfect examples, because people have multiple phones/devices.

]]> By: Om Malik http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-474848 Om Malik Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:21:41 +0000 http://gigaom.com/2007/08/23/all-americans-to-have-mobile-phones-by-2013/#comment-474848 <p>Dave H, I don't have that information handy but have emailed the research firm to get that data.</p> Dave H, I don’t have that information handy but have emailed the research firm to get that data.

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